who's cuter

Kleenex · April 24, 2017, 09:24:54 PM

This thread is pretty much the greatest fucking thread on this website and you homos haven't torn it the fuck up.

Weak. I just logged in to say this to you all. You're all pathetic.

SecondClass · April 24, 2017, 09:25:39 PM

Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:24:54 PM

This thread is pretty much the greatest fucking thread on this website and you homos haven't torn it the fuck up.

Weak. I just logged in to say this to you all. You're all pathetic.

answer the question fag

Kleenex · April 24, 2017, 09:26:07 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:25:39 PM

Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:24:54 PM
This thread is pretty much the greatest fucking thread on this website and you homos haven't torn it the fuck up.

Weak. I just logged in to say this to you all. You're all pathetic.
answer the question fag

Not you, bitch.

SecondClass · April 24, 2017, 09:28:36 PM

Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:26:07 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:25:39 PM
Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:24:54 PM
This thread is pretty much the greatest fucking thread on this website and you homos haven't torn it the fuck up.

Weak. I just logged in to say this to you all. You're all pathetic.
answer the question fag
Not you, bitch.

please beat me up and call me a bitch more?

Kleenex · April 24, 2017, 09:38:40 PM

Sorry hon, Verbatim is cuter than you. It's why I gave her the lead over you. You just can't rock the skirt like Verbatim can. You in women's clothing just makes you look like a total circus freak compared to Verb.

Not only do you look like someone who jelqs it to sissy hypnosis, you look like someone who despises niggers but when given the chance in the bedroom with one, you would suck the shit out of the gentleman's black dick.

Kleenex · April 24, 2017, 09:41:38 PM

I almost threw away my vote with Cheat because she looked like a vintage French porn actress (bet she gives great french head) but when I saw Verb, I knew she was the one.

SecondClass · April 24, 2017, 09:42:12 PM

Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:38:40 PM

Sorry hon, Verbatim is cuter than you. It's why I gave her the lead over you. You just can't rock the skirt like Verbatim can. You in women's clothing just makes you look like a total circus freak compared to Verb.

Not only do you look like someone who jelqs it to sissy hypnosis, you look like someone who despises niggers but when given the chance in the bedroom with one, you would suck the shit out of the gentleman's black dick.

I adore black people and would love to solve racism by gobbling up a big black penis

SecondClass · April 24, 2017, 09:42:43 PM

sissy hypnosis no

pov femdom videos yes

Kleenex · April 24, 2017, 09:43:07 PM

>literally 0 votes for Velex

Dude looks like a fucking downs syndrome transexual lmfao

Kleenex · April 24, 2017, 09:46:39 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:42:43 PM

sissy hypnosis no

pov femdom videos yes

gateway fetish into cuckoldry to be desu

SecondClass · April 24, 2017, 09:48:00 PM

Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:46:39 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:42:43 PM
sissy hypnosis no

pov femdom videos yes

gateway fetish into cuckoldry to be desu

cuckolds get humiliation from de-masculization, which isnt even a bad thing. There's nothing humiliating about being in an open relationships, but cuckolds embrace the idea that there is.

Kleenex · April 24, 2017, 09:49:42 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:48:00 PM

Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:46:39 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:42:43 PM
sissy hypnosis no

pov femdom videos yes

gateway fetish into cuckoldry to be desu
cuckolds get humiliation from de-masculization, which isnt even a bad thing. There's nothing humiliating about being in an open relationships, but cuckolds embrace the idea that there is.

You trying to sound intellectually capable makes me want to choke you.

SecondClass · April 24, 2017, 09:50:57 PM

Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:49:42 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:46:39 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:42:43 PM
sissy hypnosis no

pov femdom videos yes

gateway fetish into cuckoldry to be desu
cuckolds get humiliation from de-masculization, which isnt even a bad thing. There's nothing humiliating about being in an open relationships, but cuckolds embrace the idea that there is.
You trying to sound intellectually capable makes me want to choke you.

first of all PLEASE do

secondly this isnt an intellectual thing, its common sense

both I and cucks get off from humiliation, but what we consider humiliating differs

Kleenex · April 24, 2017, 10:06:58 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:50:57 PM

Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:49:42 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:46:39 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:42:43 PM
sissy hypnosis no

pov femdom videos yes

gateway fetish into cuckoldry to be desu
cuckolds get humiliation from de-masculization, which isnt even a bad thing. There's nothing humiliating about being in an open relationships, but cuckolds embrace the idea that there is.
You trying to sound intellectually capable makes me want to choke you.
first of all PLEASE do

secondly this isnt an intellectual thing, its common sense

both I and cucks get off from humiliation, but what we consider humiliating differs

The humiliation is all the same. Having your girl cuck you is femdom, a very specific type of femdom.

Trying to distinguish the humiliation between having my girl fuck another man vs having my girl fuck me is the dumbest thing I've heard. The relationship between the two are not categorically distinct, but rather are sequential and one thing leads to the other.

It's the same humiliation all around. In femdom, the whole point is that you're dominated by this woman in question, which should make you feel ashamed in the first place for being less of a man. You're degraded to the same level as her, a toy for her pleasure.

Cuckoldry is the lowest form of this same humiliation because another man shows you what you are not and will never hope to be, meanwhile, your girl is showing you that you can't satisfy her unless she sticks her cock inside of you. She's already degraded you to her level. Having the other man show you how useless you are is just cherry on top.

Overall, I consider your stances absolutely retarded.

SecondClass · April 24, 2017, 10:08:50 PM

There's nothing humiliating about my wife and I being in an open relationship

there's everything humilating about being treated as a footstool or a dog

losing masculinity isnt humiliating, its empowering. With your logic, me going through a gender transition will be "humiliating"

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Elai · April 24, 2017, 10:12:40 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:28:36 PM

Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:26:07 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:25:39 PM
Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:24:54 PM
This thread is pretty much the greatest fucking thread on this website and you homos haven't torn it the fuck up.

Weak. I just logged in to say this to you all. You're all pathetic.
answer the question fag
Not you, bitch.
please beat me up and call me a bitch more?

you could be the emo boy of my dreams

Solonoid · April 24, 2017, 10:13:33 PM

Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 10:06:58 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:50:57 PM
Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:49:42 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:46:39 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:42:43 PM
sissy hypnosis no

pov femdom videos yes

gateway fetish into cuckoldry to be desu
cuckolds get humiliation from de-masculization, which isnt even a bad thing. There's nothing humiliating about being in an open relationships, but cuckolds embrace the idea that there is.
You trying to sound intellectually capable makes me want to choke you.
first of all PLEASE do

secondly this isnt an intellectual thing, its common sense

both I and cucks get off from humiliation, but what we consider humiliating differs
The humiliation is all the same. Having your girl cuck you is femdom, a very specific type of femdom.

Trying to distinguish the humiliation between having my girl fuck another man vs having my girl fuck me is the dumbest thing I've heard. The relationship between the two are not categorically distinct, but rather are sequential and one thing leads to the other.

It's the same humiliation all around. In femdom, the whole point is that you're dominated by this woman in question, which should make you feel ashamed in the first place for being less of a man. You're degraded to the same level as her, a toy for her pleasure.

Cuckoldry is the lowest form of this same humiliation because another man shows you what you are not and will never hope to be, meanwhile, your girl is showing you that you can't satisfy her unless she sticks her cock inside of you. She's already degraded you to her level. Having the other man show you how useless you are is just cherry on top.

Overall, I consider your stances absolutely retarded.

This rant is overly circumlocutive.

Cuckoldry and femdom are different fetishes

SecondClass · April 24, 2017, 10:24:01 PM

Quote from: audrey on April 24, 2017, 10:12:40 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:28:36 PM
Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:26:07 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:25:39 PM
Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:24:54 PM
This thread is pretty much the greatest fucking thread on this website and you homos haven't torn it the fuck up.

Weak. I just logged in to say this to you all. You're all pathetic.
answer the question fag
Not you, bitch.
please beat me up and call me a bitch more?

you could be the emo boy of my dreams

I would so go emo if it made me look good

Kleenex · April 24, 2017, 10:28:26 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 10:08:50 PM

There's nothing humiliating about my wife and I being in an open relationship

there's everything humilating about being treated as a footstool or a dog

losing masculinity isnt humiliating, its empowering. With your logic, me going through a gender transition will be "humiliating"

There is something humiliating in open relationships. For example, the gossip people have over the couple. Couples who ignore it don't give a shit. But to the ones that don't, it might be a way for them to get off who knows but the possibility of there being something humiliating in the open relationship itself remains. When you say there's nothing humiliating about being in open relationships, I don't believe you. It's up to the couple in question to believe what they find humiliating about the open relationship or not.

True.

>losing masculinity isnt humiliating, its empowering.

Elaborate on this.

>With your logic, me going through a gender transition will be "humiliating"

Back up. We're talking about femdom, where a woman degrades you sexually to get off. It's just a fetish. Would this mean then, that by this reasoning laid above, we are equating gender transition to just a fetish? No. It's not a fetish. Gender transitioning is another thing. This is not the case and this reasoning doesn't hold. This is beyond what we are discussing.

SecondClass · April 24, 2017, 10:30:03 PM

No, it's not. You equate losing masculinity to humiliation, I equate it to liberation.

And being in an open relationship isnt bad or de-masculizing at all

Kleenex · April 24, 2017, 10:31:36 PM

Quote from: Fishcakes on April 24, 2017, 10:13:33 PM

Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 10:06:58 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:50:57 PM
Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:49:42 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:48:00 PM
Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:46:39 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 09:42:43 PM
sissy hypnosis no

pov femdom videos yes

gateway fetish into cuckoldry to be desu
cuckolds get humiliation from de-masculization, which isnt even a bad thing. There's nothing humiliating about being in an open relationships, but cuckolds embrace the idea that there is.
You trying to sound intellectually capable makes me want to choke you.
first of all PLEASE do

secondly this isnt an intellectual thing, its common sense

both I and cucks get off from humiliation, but what we consider humiliating differs
The humiliation is all the same. Having your girl cuck you is femdom, a very specific type of femdom.

Trying to distinguish the humiliation between having my girl fuck another man vs having my girl fuck me is the dumbest thing I've heard. The relationship between the two are not categorically distinct, but rather are sequential and one thing leads to the other.

It's the same humiliation all around. In femdom, the whole point is that you're dominated by this woman in question, which should make you feel ashamed in the first place for being less of a man. You're degraded to the same level as her, a toy for her pleasure.

Cuckoldry is the lowest form of this same humiliation because another man shows you what you are not and will never hope to be, meanwhile, your girl is showing you that you can't satisfy her unless she sticks her cock inside of you. She's already degraded you to her level. Having the other man show you how useless you are is just cherry on top.

Overall, I consider your stances absolutely retarded.
This rant is overly circumlocutive.

Cuckoldry and femdom are different fetishes

There is femdom in cuckoldry.

Kleenex · April 24, 2017, 11:36:41 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on April 24, 2017, 10:30:03 PM

No, it's not. You equate losing masculinity to humiliation, I equate it to liberation.

And being in an open relationship isnt bad or de-masculizing at all

There would be no femdom without humiliation and losing your masculinity in the process. Humiliation is the driving force behind the loss of your masculinity in femdom. Without humiliation, there is no loss of masculinity.

You're calling the overall result of the process of losing masculinity liberation. However, here is the difference between gender transition and the femdom fetish. You do not transition to the other gender completely in femdom, if it does ever occur. You can reach the edge of this other gender, come very close to it, but then come back. You had a taste of it, but you haven't fully transitioned to another gender.

So here's my question to you.
Do you believe that during femdom, in this process of de-masculization and humiliation, the man in question, is capable of undergoing gender transition? Better yet, is this gender transition permanent?

Has his masculinity or at least some of it been lost as a result of this process? Has this experience given him a new perspective in what being a man is or what masculinity entails?

If there is something I think we can both agree on is that this transition isn't permanent because it's a process that occurs for a very short time. Also we can agree that the man may not or may have gained new understanding as a consequence to his humiliation. You say this is liberation. I'd say this is more like enlightment.

We could say that losing your masculinity is enlightement if the man has gained new understanding of masculinity in the process of humiliation, all in exchange for losing some or all of his masculinity.

Then it goes back to the question, is your masculinity lost or reinforced by this fetish? I'd think it's partially lost, because you had to undergo humiliation in the first place, however you did this in exchange for enlightment.

To the other sentence. There's nothing bad with open relationships but you said there is nothing humiliating about them. That is just not true as it's up to the couple to believe if it's humiliating or not. They could get off the taboo that being in an open relationship is weird or the shame of having their partners sleep with someone else. It's all a fetish.

velox · April 25, 2017, 01:02:33 AM

Quote from: Kleenex on April 24, 2017, 09:24:54 PM

This thread is pretty much the greatest fucking thread on this website and you homos haven't torn it the fuck up.

que IASIP theme
"Kleenex tears the thread the fuck up"

SecondClass · April 25, 2017, 01:29:50 AM

idk what the fuck kleenex is smoking

i could never become a cuck because its not humiliating for me

Kleenex · April 25, 2017, 05:22:38 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on April 25, 2017, 01:29:50 AM

idk what the fuck kleenex is smoking

i could never become a cuck because its not humiliating for me

It doesn't matter whether you feel humiliation or not, it may or may not happen, you're still a cuck by engaging in cuckoldry. The end goal of this retarded fetish is all about humiliation and making yourself less of a man. If you don't feel humiliated while in the acts, maybe the fetish isn't for you and I wholeheartedly recommend you find something better to get off to. You're just wasting your time if you don't feel it.

SecondClass · April 25, 2017, 05:32:19 AM

being less of a man is empowering

you cant see this topic from any lens but your own

youre honestly pretty fucking stupid

Kleenex · April 25, 2017, 06:44:41 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on April 25, 2017, 05:32:19 AM

being less of a man is empowering

you cant see this topic from any lens but your own

youre honestly pretty fucking stupid

To you but not everyone, wrong faggot sissy.

SecondClass · April 25, 2017, 06:45:36 AM

Quote from: Kleenex on April 25, 2017, 06:44:41 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on April 25, 2017, 05:32:19 AM
being less of a man is empowering

you cant see this topic from any lens but your own

youre honestly pretty fucking stupid
To you but not everyone, wrong faggot sissy.

being fem is an objective good

men are evil and rapists

Kleenex · April 25, 2017, 06:45:59 AM

Just because you find power in being a cum gargling bottom doesn't mean everyone does.

Poll

who's female faceapp pic is cuter

who's cuter