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6 months, either in the darkest depths of the ocean in a submarine, or in upper Earth orbit in the ISS.

Which, why/why both fucking suck?

The similarities;

- Cramped conditions
- Instant death on the other side of the walls
- Limited human contact (AFAIK both have some connection for the internet so shit-sub/space-posting on 4chan would be possible but limited).
- Living without your usual comforts (living space aside, no TV, not much storage space for books, clothes, restricted diets, can't go for a run or get "fresh air")
- You need to be highly trained to operate or be assigned to them (for this scenario just assume you know how to run a sub or a spacestation, or all that would be sorted by everyone else on board).
- Besides this 6 month restriction, it takes a while to get back to civilisation, up or down, and across a bit.

The differences;

- Being surrounded by highly compressed water (not that water is compressible, but that only means a rupture would get that pressure transferred to you and force you to the size of a peanut) vs being surrounded by a vacuum strong enough to boil your blood and burst your lungs. Neither pretty.
- You get a pretty view in space. Ocean floors are virtually deserts apart from the scattered wrecks and "islands" of life around carcasses and volcanic vents, and I'm not sure conventional subs have windows. Periscope?
- Flying at thousands of kilometres an hour vs I dunno, a few knots underwater.
- Following and creating a bit of a juxtoposition from my last point, in space you can't go anywhere because it's so vast, even if you weren't going around in orbit. In a sub you can "go" places that can be interesting.
- Experiencing virtual Zero-g vs the ol' 9.8m/s^2 everyday, and all the problems associated (or not) in dealing with that.
- No sun can penetrate deep underwater to the point it's pitch black and you'll return a vitamin D deficient pale fuck, vs too much exposure that you have an increased risk of cancer when you get back. Nice.

So, what'll it be?


 
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is it just me or a crew?


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Space obviously. Doesn't space mess with something in your DNA as well that makes you age slower while up there?


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The angel agreed to trade a set of white wings for the head of another demon. Overjoyed, the demon killed one of his own and plucked the head right off its still-warm body.

The angel then led the demon to heaven, where he underwent centuries of the cruelest tortures imaginable. Finally, the pain was so great that he lost consciousness - at which point his dark wings turned the promised shade of white.
spesh, the final frontier

deep sea is one of two things that trigger actual terror in me


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is it just me or a crew?

As close to reality as possible (without you being able to leave obvs).

So for space, iirc they shift the crews every 3 months or so, so for your time you'd meet a grand total of 6-8 with 3 or 4 a time.

For a sub, Wikipedia says 150 people, about 30 of those are officers and specialists, the rest are "sub-grunts". I don't know how often they rotate so just assume you're "stuck" with those 150 for the duration.


 
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Space, no chance in hell I’m going under water


 
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Fuck it, I'll go underway for six months then.
Just outside of the engine room pls


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If I'm not here, I'm doing Photography. Or I'm asleep. Or hungover. One of those three, anyway.

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Space obviously. Doesn't space mess with something in your DNA as well that makes you age slower while up there?

Space doesn't do shit to your DNA. Gamma radiation does though, and that's just basic cancer risk which is increased in space because you're more exposed in a tin can with no atmosphere around to absorb it.

Relativistic speeds make you appear to live longer, but it's negligible (like, <1s difference for the time you'd be up there). You'd live 1s longer than someone who never went to orbit at speeds several thousand kilometres faster than usual, but to you it wouldn't make a difference, you'd still live and die at a normal age.

An analogy to this would be if light was bouncing between two mirrors in a tube. Shove that tube on a car, and if it drove around you very fast the "beam" of light would bounce in a zigzag rather than up and down if it was stationary("I" vs "V"). Because going diagonal takes more distance, it would essentially take longer to go up and down, but on the car you'd just see the beam going up and down like normal.


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Fuck it, I'll go underway for six months then.
Just outside of the engine room pls

Get back to your station, Fritz


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Well I’d imagine you’d have Houston in your ear constantly on the ISS and you’d have to carry out experiments and shit constantly

It’d have a better view and zero G would be novel but I’d take the peace of a sub if I’m staying for any extended periods of time