where do womens rights come from

SecondClass · October 02, 2016, 10:25:06 PM

u realize idc

Lemy the Lizerd · October 02, 2016, 10:34:31 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on October 02, 2016, 10:25:06 PM

u realize idc

spoosp

The Hån · October 02, 2016, 11:37:02 PM

they come from the lie that is equAULITY.

clum clum · October 03, 2016, 02:30:05 PM

i made them up for shits and giggles hehe

Aether · October 03, 2016, 02:43:16 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on October 02, 2016, 09:26:17 PM

Rights aren't granted. They just are.

I don't see rights as inherently existing at all. They are conditioned by sentience and intelligence. If there is none to rationalize and define them then they never manifest.

Jim · October 03, 2016, 02:45:05 PM

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DAS B00T x2 · October 03, 2016, 02:51:00 PM

Quote from: Jim on October 03, 2016, 02:45:05 PM

daily reminder secular morality is a myth and you cannot derive morality from mere existence

But I can derive morality from deez nuts

The Lord Ruler · October 03, 2016, 02:59:28 PM

Women dont exist

Loverboy · October 03, 2016, 03:53:38 PM

From men.

SecondClass · October 03, 2016, 04:14:56 PM

Quote from: Aether on October 03, 2016, 02:43:16 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on October 02, 2016, 09:26:17 PM
Rights aren't granted. They just are.
I don't see rights as inherently existing at all. They are conditioned by sentience and intelligence. If there is none to rationalize and define them then they never manifest.

I disagree. Morality is a constant, but only sapient beings can recognize it. It's immoral for a fox to slowly eat a rabbit alive, but the fox doesn't know that.

Aether · October 03, 2016, 05:47:02 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on October 03, 2016, 04:14:56 PM

Quote from: Aether on October 03, 2016, 02:43:16 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on October 02, 2016, 09:26:17 PM
Rights aren't granted. They just are.
I don't see rights as inherently existing at all. They are conditioned by sentience and intelligence. If there is none to rationalize and define them then they never manifest.
I disagree. Morality is a constant, but only sapient beings can recognize it. It's immoral for a fox to slowly eat a rabbit alive, but the fox doesn't know that.

I cannot logically see morality as an objective phenomenon. Without some form of sentience to conceive of it, it never arises into being.

I see morality more as the ego's way of subjectively measuring and defining the nature of suffering.

SecondClass · October 03, 2016, 05:50:58 PM

Quote from: Aether on October 03, 2016, 05:47:02 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on October 03, 2016, 04:14:56 PM
Quote from: Aether on October 03, 2016, 02:43:16 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on October 02, 2016, 09:26:17 PM
Rights aren't granted. They just are.
I don't see rights as inherently existing at all. They are conditioned by sentience and intelligence. If there is none to rationalize and define them then they never manifest.
I disagree. Morality is a constant, but only sapient beings can recognize it. It's immoral for a fox to slowly eat a rabbit alive, but the fox doesn't know that.

I cannot logically see morality as an objective phenomenon. Without some form of sentience to conceive of it, it never arises into being.

I see morality more as the ego's way of subjectively measuring and defining the nature of suffering.

Morality exists as a constant as long as suffering does. If I was suddenly the only organism on earth capable of feeling pain, then morality wouldn't exist.

Verbatim · October 03, 2016, 05:58:06 PM

Quote from: Aether on October 03, 2016, 05:47:02 PM

I cannot logically see morality as an objective phenomenon. Without some form of sentience to conceive of it, it never arises into being.

Why does that mean it's subjective.

R o c k e t · October 03, 2016, 07:17:53 PM

tfw door's alt is more religious than me

oh how far I've fallen

Aether · October 03, 2016, 07:29:10 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on October 03, 2016, 05:58:06 PM

Quote from: Aether on October 03, 2016, 05:47:02 PM
I cannot logically see morality as an objective phenomenon. Without some form of sentience to conceive of it, it never arises into being.
Why does that mean it's subjective.

Because the concept of morality doesn't exist from my perspective as something objective like the absolute most effective way to eliminate suffering. I define morality as each person's individual measure and interpretation of the nature of suffering, and the ethics they come to live by as a result of their perspective and experience in life.