When you google my full name in quotes, a Sep7 thread is like the third result

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goodbye gainful employment

I'd better keep my current job, seems I was lucky no one here searched me up


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
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also bruh they didn't even call your last employer, or any of your references, much less google you, not to mention if there was a background report, they just hired someone to scan criminal records, not to actually investigate you


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ayy lmao
also bruh they didn't even call your last employer, or any of your references, much less google you, not to mention if there was a background report, they just hired someone to scan criminal records, not to actually investigate you
maybe not at mcdonalds


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also bruh they didn't even call your last employer, or any of your references, much less google you, not to mention if there was a background report, they just hired someone to scan criminal records, not to actually investigate you
?

What do you mean? I work at Day's Inn (I'm here right now) and I'm pretty sure they called my references and such. All I had to say was that I used to work at Baymont, which is another Wyndham location, and they were so excited to hire me! It helps that since I worked with Wyndham before, I know their policies and the whole computer system and all that.

Spoiler


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also bruh they didn't even call your last employer, or any of your references, much less google you, not to mention if there was a background report, they just hired someone to scan criminal records, not to actually investigate you
maybe not at mcdonalds
he isn't qualified to do much else, so it's a safe assumption yeah

although, the kind of boss or hiring manager who maybe skims your resumรฉ and doesn't call any of the phone numbers on it except for yours is more or less ubiquitous in any job that doesn't require a college degree, and several that do


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also bruh they didn't even call your last employer, or any of your references, much less google you, not to mention if there was a background report, they just hired someone to scan criminal records, not to actually investigate you
maybe not at mcdonalds
he isn't qualified to do much else, so it's a safe assumption yeah

although, the kind of boss or hiring manager who maybe skims your resumรฉ and doesn't call any of the phone numbers on it except for yours is more or less ubiquitous in any job that doesn't require a college degree, and several that do
Dude what's your problem? I work at a hotel, I'd kill myself before going back to the food industry. Also please don't misgender me!


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also bruh they didn't even call your last employer, or any of your references, much less google you, not to mention if there was a background report, they just hired someone to scan criminal records, not to actually investigate you
maybe not at mcdonalds
he isn't qualified to do much else, so it's a safe assumption yeah

although, the kind of boss or hiring manager who maybe skims your resumรฉ and doesn't call any of the phone numbers on it except for yours is more or less ubiquitous in any job that doesn't require a college degree, and several that do
Dude what's your problem? I work at a hotel, I'd kill myself before going back to the food industry. Also please don't misgender me!
ah so Starbucks didn't work out eh?

color me shocked

nonetheless, my point had nothing to do with fast food, it was more about the caliber of the work, and frankly, I don't know why you're acting offended

you're not qualified to do anything else

if you don't like it, then are you really going to get mad at me for saying it out loud, or would you rather do something about it? Go get the qualifications you need to live a life that doesn't make you feel bad when you see it laid out in writing

otherwise, you'll never be more than a clerk at a motel, a waiter at waffle house, or a cashier at Burger King

these aren't reflections of you, they're reflections of the choices you have made, and if that's not the person you wanna be seen as, buddy that's on you
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Ah, wait, I misread, full name? Well why would you post it online in the first place?
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look at what I do online and I still pass federal background checks


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also bruh they didn't even call your last employer, or any of your references, much less google you, not to mention if there was a background report, they just hired someone to scan criminal records, not to actually investigate you
maybe not at mcdonalds
he isn't qualified to do much else, so it's a safe assumption yeah

although, the kind of boss or hiring manager who maybe skims your resumรฉ and doesn't call any of the phone numbers on it except for yours is more or less ubiquitous in any job that doesn't require a college degree, and several that do
Dude what's your problem? I work at a hotel, I'd kill myself before going back to the food industry. Also please don't misgender me!
ah so Starbucks didn't work out eh?

color me shocked

nonetheless, my point had nothing to do with fast food, it was more about the caliber of the work, and frankly, I don't know why you're acting offended

you're not qualified to do anything else

if you don't like it, then are you really going to get mad at me for saying it out loud, or would you rather do something about it? Go get the qualifications you need to live a life that doesn't make you feel bad when you see it laid out in writing

otherwise, you'll never be more than a clerk at a motel, a waiter at waffle house, or a cashier at Burger King

these aren't reflections of you, they're reflections of the choices you have made, and if that's not the person you wanna be seen as, buddy that's on you
I didn't even apply at Starbucks, I was going to apply but I got instantly hired at the first place I applied to, this Day's Inn.

What do you mean by the "caliber" of work? Working at BK or Waffle House is low-caliber, yes. Working at a damn hotel is classy, and honestly is one of the most chill jobs out there. You get to be on your computer for 80% of the time, and as long as you're fulfilling your duties and you're clean/nice/pleasant, no one cares.

What "choices" have I made? I made the choice to go to Florida to support my seizure-ridden mother and little brother. I made the choice to get a job in the hospitality industry, a sector I personally enjoy and that's suited to my amicability and other talents. I made a CHOICE to keep living my life rather than go lay on the floor and cry about how I'm universally disliked. It's a wonder I even get up, but yes, I make that choice every morning.


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Ah, wait, I misread, full name? Well why would you post it online in the first place?
Verbatim called me Carson Keller, a cool made-up name that I personally like, then Solonoid had to ruin it as she always does and was like, asterisk real name


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also bruh they didn't even call your last employer, or any of your references, much less google you, not to mention if there was a background report, they just hired someone to scan criminal records, not to actually investigate you
maybe not at mcdonalds
he isn't qualified to do much else, so it's a safe assumption yeah

although, the kind of boss or hiring manager who maybe skims your resumรฉ and doesn't call any of the phone numbers on it except for yours is more or less ubiquitous in any job that doesn't require a college degree, and several that do
Dude what's your problem? I work at a hotel, I'd kill myself before going back to the food industry. Also please don't misgender me!
ah so Starbucks didn't work out eh?

color me shocked

nonetheless, my point had nothing to do with fast food, it was more about the caliber of the work, and frankly, I don't know why you're acting offended

you're not qualified to do anything else

if you don't like it, then are you really going to get mad at me for saying it out loud, or would you rather do something about it? Go get the qualifications you need to live a life that doesn't make you feel bad when you see it laid out in writing

otherwise, you'll never be more than a clerk at a motel, a waiter at waffle house, or a cashier at Burger King

these aren't reflections of you, they're reflections of the choices you have made, and if that's not the person you wanna be seen as, buddy that's on you
I didn't even apply at Starbucks, I was going to apply but I got instantly hired at the first place I applied to, this Day's Inn.

What do you mean by the "caliber" of work? Working at BK or Waffle House is low-caliber, yes. Working at a damn hotel is classy, and honestly is one of the most chill jobs out there. You get to be on your computer for 80% of the time, and as long as you're fulfilling your duties and you're clean/nice/pleasant, no one cares.

What "choices" have I made? I made the choice to go to Florida to support my seizure-ridden mother and little brother. I made the choice to get a job in the hospitality industry, a sector I personally enjoy and that's suited to my amicability and other talents. I made a CHOICE to keep living my life rather than go lay on the floor and cry about how I'm universally disliked. It's a wonder I even get up, but yes, I make that choice every morning.
bro no I'm being serious, you have a dead job and moved to Florida to live with your mother

you can go on a rant trying to rationalize the situation in a way that let's you lie to yourself, but until you actually take your life into your own hands you're still stuck, and you'll know it inside


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"Dead end job"? Nope, it's a great job that I love.

Obviously you have some issue with me, after all you're misgendering me still. Hit me up at Carmen#0001 on Discord so we can sort this out.


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"Dead end job"? Nope, it's a great job that I love.

Obviously you have some issue with me, after all you're misgendering me still. Hit me up at Carmen#0001 on Discord so we can sort this out.
You know, nobody believes that you're actually so delusional that you can't see that you don't really live, you're just existing.

I know it scares you to think about what difficult changes you need to make, but you don't need to pretend you're happy in the meantime.


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"Dead end job"? Nope, it's a great job that I love.

Obviously you have some issue with me, after all you're misgendering me still. Hit me up at Carmen#0001 on Discord so we can sort this out.
You know, nobody believes that you're actually so delusional that you can't see that you don't really live, you're just existing.

I know it scares you to think about what difficult changes you need to make, but you don't need to pretend you're happy in the meantime.
I am happy with my current living situation. What I'm not happy with are people being mean to me on the Internet and saying I'm some hopeless lost cause or that I'm a bad person. As I said, you definitely have an issue with me, so please stop whatever you're doing here and address me on Discord.


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"Dead end job"? Nope, it's a great job that I love.

Obviously you have some issue with me, after all you're misgendering me still. Hit me up at Carmen#0001 on Discord so we can sort this out.
You know, nobody believes that you're actually so delusional that you can't see that you don't really live, you're just existing.

I know it scares you to think about what difficult changes you need to make, but you don't need to pretend you're happy in the meantime.
I am happy with my current living situation. What I'm not happy with are people being mean to me on the Internet and saying I'm some hopeless lost cause or that I'm a bad person. As I said, you definitely have an issue with me, so please stop whatever you're doing here and address me on Discord.
if the way I described your life makes you feel bad, you should make your life better instead of blaming me


 
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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
bro no I'm being serious, you have a dead job and moved to Florida to live with your mother

you can go on a rant trying to rationalize the situation in a way that let's you lie to yourself, but until you actually take your life into your own hands you're still stuck, and you'll know it inside
She's not 40 and living with her mom; it's honestly just a smarter financial decision in your mid/early 20s and, if it is to support her family, logical and positive. By the same token, working a "dead job" isn't a big deal. She's young enough that, if there's no route for progression, it can be leveraged to move to another position with equal/better pay.

Progress can be fast or slow; it makes no difference so long as you're always moving forward.


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bro no I'm being serious, you have a dead job and moved to Florida to live with your mother

you can go on a rant trying to rationalize the situation in a way that let's you lie to yourself, but until you actually take your life into your own hands you're still stuck, and you'll know it inside
She's not 40 and living with her mom; it's honestly just a smarter financial decision in your mid/early 20s and, if it is to support her family, logical and positive. By the same token, working a "dead job" isn't a big deal. She's young enough that, if there's no route for progression, it can be leveraged to move to another position with equal/better pay.

Progress can be fast or slow; it makes no difference so long as you're always moving forward.
Okay, then why be upset when I mention it?

Youre both missing the entire point here. I'm not asserting that SecondClass has a "shitty life", since that's subjective to the way a person enjoys living.

I'm making the facts clear, which as far as I can tell we agree on.

Class works an entry level job for unskilled workers with essentially no room to move up. In order to make a career with Wyndham, even if you start at the bottom and move up, you need to have a degree. You'll never snag a gm position and build a career out of it without education. If the opportunity ever did appear to move from a franchise employee to a corporate one, it would take a couple of decades without an education, effectively making the job dead end, or, not a career.

Same thing with the living with your mother because you have nowhere else to go.

This lifestyle suits young people often enough.

But SecondClass is in active denial that this lifestyle makes him unhappy. Instead of saying "yeah, I live at home and work a dead end job, and I'm satisfied with that for now, because I'm young and life will change", he denies that this is a dead end job, he denies that he has nothing, and he denies that he's going nowhere at the moment, then he gets angry at others for mentioning these facts.

I didn't start a fight with SecondClass, all I said was nobody who is looking to hire you is actually going to Google you.

This upset SecondClass, who felt that he should be important enough to his employer that they would take it upon themselves to learn not only what kind of trouble he's been in, but to investigate his personal life, look at social media, learn about him personally, which doesn't start to happen until you've made it much further in life.

But I don't believe he's so deluded that he doesn't know he exists at the lowest rung, I think he knows exactly where he falls in life, and just fronts about it nonstop.

So what's the point here?

The point is, instead of pretending his life is better than it is, all he needed to say was "I'm happy the way things are." Only that's also not true. So ultimately, if SecondClass wants to be happy, he might find more success in becoming happier by taking action to change his life rather than lying about being happy on the internet.

It's like I've been saying all along, a person who is happy with their life doesn't become upset when someone is frank about it.

Bonus Round: Misgendering
SecondClass has personal philosophies on gender, sex, and basic human rights which I feel is destructive to the lgbt community. More importantly, I feel these stances too sharply contrast the feelings of most lgbt and especially trans people, which makes our very political movement to be accepted much harder. By taking exclusionary steps against him I feel that my trans peers enjoy a better lifestyle.

This bids the question, what makes us more valid than him?

I don't suppose anyone is more valid than anyone else, but I'm not letting people like that hijack our movement and make it about them. If you wanna have a movement about converting all men into sissies and killing the ones that won't convert, leave us out of it.

I don't want to lend anyone with that kind of agenda a single drop of credence. When SecondClass chooses to transition for a reason other than "women are superior" maybe I'll consider him a trans woman, but nobody is allowed to bank off the struggles of trans women because they wanna join the "winning team".

That's disgusting.


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I'm happy the way things are

Now please leave me alone.

On your hate speech
I personally like women more than men, but no one is "superior" to anyone else just for the way they were born. No one is hijacking any fucking movement. Just because the trans community has become increasingly unpopular due to loud, annoying trans people doesn't mean that those people are invalid. Whether you're Bailey Jay or Christine Chandler, your dysphoria is just as real and valid as the next trans person in line. The only thing disgusting here is you literally trying to gatekeep dysphoria.

If you were a real supporter of our movement, you'd never misgender a soul. The fact you do this so casually because you dislike someone shows your true colors. This disorder isn't some popularity contest where only special trans people are allowed to identify as their gender. You literally typed "By taking exclusionary steps against him I feel that my trans peers enjoy a better lifestyle." If you can't look at that and see how awful and cruel that is - admitting you'd throw fellow trans women under the bus who don't fit your standards for how a trans woman is supposed to act -- then you're a lost cause. "My trans peers enjoy a better lifestyle" is such a selfish and ridiculous reason for denying someone's dysphoria. The LGBT movement isn't a club that only people you approve of get to be in, sorry.

My views on gender were never what you're describing. When you're young and you hate yourself and what you are, saying "women are better than men, kill all men" is a quick, cathartic thing to say. You calling me a man like some 4chan-esque transphobe isn't because of that - that's an excuse so you get to misgender me while still looking principled.
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If you PM me the posts, I can edit the name out and eventually it'll fall off the SERPs. I'm generally against removing content / deleting accounts / etc, but I will remove personal information on request.

Just FYI.
based cheat, PMd

bro no I'm being serious, you have a dead job and moved to Florida to live with your mother

you can go on a rant trying to rationalize the situation in a way that let's you lie to yourself, but until you actually take your life into your own hands you're still stuck, and you'll know it inside
She's not 40 and living with her mom; it's honestly just a smarter financial decision in your mid/early 20s and, if it is to support her family, logical and positive. By the same token, working a "dead job" isn't a big deal. She's young enough that, if there's no route for progression, it can be leveraged to move to another position with equal/better pay.

Progress can be fast or slow; it makes no difference so long as you're always moving forward.
Thanks for actually being a reasonable person. Like I don't have some glamorous life but I enjoy it, and it's serviceable. I get to live in a first world country that has freedom of speech, I get to live in a house and not on the street, and I never have to worry about being hungry or thirsty. When I keep things like this in perspective it makes things more cozy for me.


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based cheat, PMd

bro no I'm being serious, you have a dead job and moved to Florida to live with your mother

you can go on a rant trying to rationalize the situation in a way that let's you lie to yourself, but until you actually take your life into your own hands you're still stuck, and you'll know it inside
She's not 40 and living with her mom; it's honestly just a smarter financial decision in your mid/early 20s and, if it is to support her family, logical and positive. By the same token, working a "dead job" isn't a big deal. She's young enough that, if there's no route for progression, it can be leveraged to move to another position with equal/better pay.

Progress can be fast or slow; it makes no difference so long as you're always moving forward.
Thanks for actually being a reasonable person. Like I don't have some glamorous life but I enjoy it, and it's serviceable. I get to live in a first world country that has freedom of speech, I get to live in a house and not on the street, and I never have to worry about being hungry or thirsty. When I keep things like this in perspective it makes things more cozy for me.
OH, so now it isn't a classy gig

To be fair though, this is all I wanted him to say.

Good on you mate


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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Okay, then why be upset when I mention it?

Youre both missing the entire point here. I'm not asserting that SecondClass has a "shitty life", since that's subjective to the way a person enjoys living.
My only real objection was the insultingly negative way that you phrased it. I think most people would be reasonably upset if you insisted that their life sucks, and that they're "existing" instead of living, regardless of how much they tried to tell you that they're content.

On the gender issue: Buck Angel is a piece of shit (and specifically about trans issues too), but I'm not going to misgender him over it. Misgendering as a punishment only gives credence to the idea that it's an acceptable thing to do, which is bad for both the trans and NB communities.
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man, doesn't this silly bullshit just take you back tbh


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man, doesn't this silly bullshit just take you back tbh
please read through this thread and tell me who's right, me or solonoid - I will blindly agree with your choice


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man, doesn't this silly bullshit just take you back tbh
Thanks to all of the ContraPoints fiascos, it's like it never ended


 
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man, doesn't this silly bullshit just take you back tbh
please read through this thread and tell me who's right, me or solonoid - I will blindly agree with your choice
you've proven time and time again that you don't know what's good for you in life, so i'm inclined to take solonoid's side even though i'd agree with aria and say that i think she's laying it on a little too strong

i ultra don't care though

this is all assuming that you're real and honest, which i have no reason to believe that you are (which again, has been shown time and time again)
Last Edit: October 27, 2019, 03:59:46 PM by Verbatim