Quote from: True Turquoise on July 12, 2015, 08:05:17 PMNever done drugs.And I won't.But how do you stay alive without antibiotics
Never done drugs.And I won't.
Sex
Eating vegan ice cream
Staring blankly into space
Watching midgets ride motorcycles at a circus
Reading a book with no intellectual merit
How are you quantifying that?
Why do you think it's important to optimize the utility of your recreational activities?
Happiness has utility, and its source is generally irrelevant.
In fact, it's been argued on here that pedophiles should be allowed a safe environment to express their desires (I think through CP cartoons or something) because attempting to ignore them is physically detrimental to them.
You know verb, you seem awfully concerned with people living productive lives for someone who wants to enable non-productivity by reducing the cost of living to nothing.On one hand you want to remove the incentive for being productive, and on the other you insist that people lead productive lives and hold utilitarian hobbies.
Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 12, 2015, 09:16:12 PMYou know verb, you seem awfully concerned with people living productive lives for someone who wants to enable non-productivity by reducing the cost of living to nothing.On one hand you want to remove the incentive for being productive, and on the other you insist that people lead productive lives and hold utilitarian hobbies.people shouldn't need incentivesfor anythingjust because they do, doesn't mean they should
Ice cream is needed to survive? Okay.
And so is happiness.
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 12, 2015, 09:23:56 PMIce cream is needed to survive? Okay. food is, yesdid you see me type the word "food" there? yes you didwhy does it matter what kind of food it isit doesn't
What's your incentive for walking over to the fridge?
Happiness is needed to survive. Why does it matter what kind of happiness it is? It doesn't.
Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 12, 2015, 09:27:24 PMWhat's your incentive for walking over to the fridge?foodbut i don't need any incentivesi just know, logically, that it contains food needed for my health and survival
Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on July 12, 2015, 09:29:35 PMHappiness is needed to survive. Why does it matter what kind of happiness it is? It doesn't.you're just saying it doesn't, but you're not actually proving it
Like hardcore drugs? Never had any.
Quote from: Korra Valentine on July 12, 2015, 09:32:49 PMLike hardcore drugs? Never had any.well, allbut i mean, good on you
So your incentive to go to the fridge is to get food, and your incentive to want food is because you know you need it to survive ie: not dying.Every action is based off of an incentive, nobody does anything just because.
I take Tylenol or Ibuprofen when I'm sick and stuff.
Quote from: Korra Valentine on July 12, 2015, 09:36:26 PMI take Tylenol or Ibuprofen when I'm sick and stuff. well okay, not allall recreational drugs
I was using your own statement. Ice cream has no nutritional value, but it gives you pleasure so it's good. Apparently. I'm just using your own argument.
Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 12, 2015, 09:35:08 PMSo your incentive to go to the fridge is to get food, and your incentive to want food is because you know you need it to survive ie: not dying.Every action is based off of an incentive, nobody does anything just because.i never denied thisthat doesn't make it an intelligent or good systemi don't need an incentive to do the right thing, for example (ethically speaking)i just do it
If you take two different things you can do, and compare them in terms of right and wrong, and you choose the one you deem to be right, then your ethics are your incentive.
Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 12, 2015, 09:57:52 PMIf you take two different things you can do, and compare them in terms of right and wrong, and you choose the one you deem to be right, then your ethics are your incentive.i don't think you know what incentive means
a thing that motivates or encourages one to do something.What motivates or encourages you to do the right thing instead of the wrong thing?
when you first did drugs
