What would happen if we lived in a world where no one wanted to offend anyone

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So I was just thinking about offensive words. I've made a lot of posts on this forum about blacks, gays, women, rape victims, etc. Ever since I've started being around more black people, I have started being more careful about saying racist jokes. I think that this is a product of being careful to suppress offensive thoughts when you're around others, and in turn training your brain to respond differently, treating the harmful negative shit that pops up as cancerous and bad, and giving a negative response to it instead of just letting it out. Not that I was ever legitimately racist, I just think that it's really fun to say the most offensive thing you can think of.

There is sort of a thresh hold though, between being careful about not saying offensive things and straight up avoiding ever offending anyone. I think that if the great comedian's like George Carlin or Bill Hicks taught us anything, it's that context matters, and you can joke about anything. A lot of my posts are just a parody of the sort of thing that I see around the internet, I like to be unrestrained and off the wall with a lot of the things I say. Everyone has offensive things that pop up in their head, but some people may try to suppress them because they don't want their thoughts to go in a prejudice direction.

I of course am progressive on social issues, and I am not anti sjw or anti feminist, or anti black lives matter. I would consider there to be a lot of problems in the united states, like the drug war, which was declared by former advisers of the Nixon administration as a way to undermine the black and hippy movement. This plays into the violence against black people and poor people, and the legalized slavery of the prison system in the united states, of which houses more inmates than any country on earth. I also have my own feminist theories about queer theory, and I am of course anti rape and for equal pay for women, and promoting a culture that teaches consent from an early age (not in regards to sex, but in just teaching the concept to kids from an early age). I am of course also a democratic socialist, because I think capitalism has failed, and it was good for getting out of the medieval era, but now it has become obsolete and we need socialism (under a democratic government).

That said, I think that people like John Cleese was right when he said that he doesn't like political correctness, because if you're around someone who can't control themselves they will try to control other people. I think it's good to not go out of your way to hurt other people's feelings, and Aristotle would say, virtue takes self discipline. Think back on what I said earlier about self control in what you say. If you had to control absolutely everything you say so that you can't be critical of anyone, even in a joking way, then we wouldn't have people like George Carlin, or Bill Hicks, and people like Donald Trump who hates the news media would control everything everyone says. John Cleese also said that all humor is critical of something. So if you give power to people to censor you, you will probably be censored yourself when you try to speak out against power.

However, there has become a problem that I've noticed, which is something I suppose I parody ironically in my writings on this board, which is the phenomena of crypto fascist trolling. I of course like to troll ironically, but there's a lot of people who do so unironically. We all know by this point that the alt right just uses "humor" as an excuse to talk anti semetically, racistly, homophobically, sexistly, etc. They can get away with it because if you say that it was just a joke, then you can deflect criticism, because humor is supposed to be critical but not taken seriously. This is one of the reasons why I do not take unironic anti sjw humor seriously. When people make serious racist, anti semetic jokes, with the idea behind them to seriously express those opinions, it ceases to be funny.

Why would I put myself into those same shoes of the people who legitimately hate social justice, and are ironically making unironic statements? Because a while ago I realized that I wanted to stop trying to be what other people expect me to be. Well, because I don't think that there has to be a strict dividing line. I can differentiate between when I am being humorous, and when I am not, although sometimes I feel guilty for saying the things that I do. Sometimes I feel like I am going to vow to not say anything offensive anymore, because then I can get rid of my guilty conscience. Maybe that's what people talk about when they say white guilt. Although, I do find myself uncomfortable around those who are called SJWs sometimes. It's not easy to define where I actually fall. Because I hate anti sjws, because they tend to unironically believe in some of the bigoted things they joke about, however, I feel like I may mess up and say something wrong around SJWs, because I feel like a lot of people couldn't take a joke.

So I'm in a no man's land. But that's okay, because that ties in with my concepts of the self. Why try to be anything when the self is just an illusion? The self is just what you use to project off of everything around you, every person you love and relate to you relate back to your own experience, everything you call racism and sexism and homophobia is just a reflection of the self. I realize that it is not necessary to really try to be anything, because there is no you, and there is no them. There is only a false reality, projected by the illusion of consciousness. It is all just an illusion.


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Can you imagine just how dull and boring a world without potentially offensive behaviors would be? What a dystopian nightmare.


 
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where on the autism spectrum do you need to be to interpret "you can joke about anything" as "you SHOULD joke about everything"


 
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Can you imagine just how dull and boring a world without potentially offensive behaviors would be? What a dystopian nightmare.
it doesn't really sound all that bad to be quite perfectly honest


 
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Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Can you imagine just how dull and boring a world without potentially offensive behaviors would be? What a dystopian nightmare.
How so?
Criticism and judgement have a high degree of potential for offense, yet they are essential to personal development. We need to be able to asses the genuine feelings and thoughts of the people around us on how we conduct ourselves so we are able to act appropriately.

On top of that, comedy is critical for society as a whole to develop properly and flourish. For new ideas to form on the foundations of the old.

I think a world without the potential for offense is a world without knowing what people really believe.
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Can you imagine just how dull and boring a world without potentially offensive behaviors would be? What a dystopian nightmare.
How so?
Criticism and judgement have a high degree of potential for offense, yet they are essential to personal development. We need to be able to asses the genuine feelings and thoughts of the people around us on how we conduct ourselves so we are able to act appropriately.

On top of that, comedy is critical for society as a whole to develop properly and flourish. For new ideas to form on the foundations of the old.

I think a world without the potential for offense is a world without knowing what people really believe.
If I say I like cars someone can be offended about it.


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where on the autism spectrum do you need to be to interpret "you can joke about anything" as "you SHOULD joke about everything"


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Can you imagine just how dull and boring a world without potentially offensive behaviors would be? What a dystopian nightmare.
it doesn't really sound all that bad to be quite perfectly honest
It sounds boring. And boredom is top tier enemy for beings with infinite lifespan.