Quote from: H. T. on January 08, 2017, 08:36:43 PM

Quote from: ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ on January 08, 2017, 08:25:21 PM

Quote from: H. T. on January 08, 2017, 08:23:12 PM

Quote from: ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ on January 08, 2017, 08:13:47 PM

I didn't see Hateful Eight until 2016, that movie was really shitty.

Sounds like you need to suck on a  WARM BLACK DINGUS

DUDE BLACK DICK VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN RAPE RAPE RAPE LMAO

Tarantino should be dragged out behind a shed and shot.

It's kind of a shame that you seem to have taken that scene at face value. It's a scathing rebuttal of American racism...or is that why you dislike it?

While I have a problem with almost all recent revisionist westerns on principle, that's not really my beef with it.

Tarantino's work is extremely overrated, particularly in Hateful Eight. I think his use of 70mm is wasted on a largely indoor film like that. Although I agree with the praise it's gotten for amplifying the crowded feeling of the cabin, that's all it really accomplished.

I'm convinced at this point that he thinks that being edgy and provocative and using "creative" editing makes up for the mediocre writing that plagues his films. This isn't helped by the millions of teenagers and bearded 30-somethings who think excess=wit and praise him as some kind of mastermind. We get it, mom was just being closedminded when she told you Jesus wouldn't want you to cuss.

I also think that, if this was an attempt at "criticizing racism", it's a pretty fucking stupid one that has accomplished nothing beyond making "anti-racists" feel proud of themselves and offending normal people. I found his use of the Daisy character (a metaphor for the poor, uneducated white underclass that bourgeois liberals like himself despise) as a punching bag extremely offensive. I grew up around these people, I understand that they're human beings and I don't like his dehumanizing treatment of them in this film.

I appreciate the thorough response, though I disagree with most of it -- but I definitely would regard this as one of his weakest scripts. I really liked the 70mm, and had a blast seeing it on film in a specialized theater. As for Daisy, I don't really see why anyone should be offended by the brutal beating their demographic receives in the film, though I wouldn't agree Daisy is a clear stand-in for the "uneducated white underclass", and despite her roles as the villain, you're supposed to be disgusted with the bounty hunter's treatment of her. If you were able to empathize with the her, recognize the hypocrisy of her abuse at the hands of the protagonists' (ostensibly a cop and a war hero), I think the film did its job. Without a doubt, you're supposed to walk out of that film feeling dirty and potentially offended.

Hateful Eight effectively lampoons numerous examples of typical Hollywood violence while sharply criticizing any preconceived stereotype of the characters' demographics, just by letting them play out. The "revisionist" black war hero getting revenge on a Confederate general (a similar theme to Inglourious Basterds) is turned on its head by letting it happen; he brutally murders an old man, and abuses a woman, all while hypersexualizing every ounce of his violence through the story of the general's son -- kind of sounds a bit like stereotypical black gang culture?

Quote from: Dietrich Six on January 08, 2017, 07:46:40 PM

Quote from: Vien on January 08, 2017, 06:16:43 PM

I wish I saw Sausage Party so I could bitch about it. Apparently liking it ironically wasn't even worth it.

It's pretty bad tbh. Shame I spent money on it.

The good thing about that movie is that It got me to see a video sent from of a friend recording a friend at a theater during the sex scene.

Was it thoroughly excellent?

Suicide squad

I really liked SS, what the fuck people? Are you just jumping on the popular opinion train? Is there anyone here who actually liked it?

hi

Quote from: FatherlyNick on January 09, 2017, 04:28:55 AM

I really liked SS, what the fuck people? Are you just jumping on the popular opinion train? Is there anyone here who actually liked it?

hi

ayyy! Seriously?

Quote from: Sfx: Clang on January 09, 2017, 09:51:34 AM

Quote from: FatherlyNick on January 09, 2017, 04:28:55 AM

I really liked SS, what the fuck people? Are you just jumping on the popular opinion train? Is there anyone here who actually liked it?

hi

ayyy! Seriously?

yeah

Slipknot, the man who can climb anything.

He climbed out of the script itself.

Quote from: ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ on January 08, 2017, 08:55:24 PM

Quote from: H. T. on January 08, 2017, 08:36:43 PM

Quote from: ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ on January 08, 2017, 08:25:21 PM

Quote from: H. T. on January 08, 2017, 08:23:12 PM

Quote from: ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ on January 08, 2017, 08:13:47 PM

I didn't see Hateful Eight until 2016, that movie was really shitty.

Sounds like you need to suck on a  WARM BLACK DINGUS

DUDE BLACK DICK VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN RAPE RAPE RAPE LMAO

Tarantino should be dragged out behind a shed and shot.

It's kind of a shame that you seem to have taken that scene at face value. It's a scathing rebuttal of American racism...or is that why you dislike it?

While I have a problem with almost all recent revisionist westerns on principle, that's not really my beef with it.

Tarantino's work is extremely overrated, particularly in Hateful Eight. I think his use of 70mm is wasted on a largely indoor film like that. Although I agree with the praise it's gotten for amplifying the crowded feeling of the cabin, that's all it really accomplished.

I'm convinced at this point that he thinks that being edgy and provocative and using "creative" editing makes up for the mediocre writing that plagues his films. This isn't helped by the millions of teenagers and bearded 30-somethings who think excess=wit and praise him as some kind of mastermind. We get it, mom was just being closedminded when she told you Jesus wouldn't want you to cuss.

I also think that, if this was an attempt at "criticizing racism", it's a pretty fucking stupid one that has accomplished nothing beyond making "anti-racists" feel proud of themselves and offending normal people. I found his use of the Daisy character (a metaphor for the poor, uneducated white underclass that bourgeois liberals like himself despise) as a punching bag extremely offensive. I grew up around these people, I understand that they're human beings and I don't like his dehumanizing treatment of them in this film.

I appreciate the thorough response, though I disagree with most of it -- but I definitely would regard this as one of his weakest scripts. I really liked the 70mm, and had a blast seeing it on film in a specialized theater. As for Daisy, I don't really see why anyone should be offended by the brutal beating their demographic receives in the film, though I wouldn't agree Daisy is a clear stand-in for the "uneducated white underclass", and despite her roles as the villain, you're supposed to be disgusted with the bounty hunter's treatment of her. If you were able to empathize with the her, recognize the hypocrisy of her abuse at the hands of the protagonists' (ostensibly a cop and a war hero), I think the film did its job. Without a doubt, you're supposed to walk out of that film feeling dirty and potentially offended.

Hateful Eight effectively lampoons numerous examples of typical Hollywood violence while sharply criticizing any preconceived stereotype of the characters' demographics, just by letting them play out. The "revisionist" black war hero getting revenge on a Confederate general (a similar theme to Inglourious Basterds) is turned on its head by letting it happen; he brutally murders an old man, and abuses a woman, all while hypersexualizing every ounce of his violence through the story of the general's son -- kind of sounds a bit like stereotypical black gang culture?

See now, the real problem with Tarantino films is that you can only watch will smith call everyone nigger for so long until it stops being funny.

So what exactly is Harley Quinn supposed to bring to the squad? There's a living aimbot, crocodile tank, firebender, swamp sorceress and all sorts of shit, and then there's a random crazy girl who swings around a bat?

Sex appeal

Suicide Squad was far from a good movie, but this is seriously touted as the worst movie to come out in 2016? There are many things wrong with it, but come on now. I'm glad I didn't pay to see it in theaters, but it was hardly that bad when you take it as just another capeshit movie.

I was fine with it until the end fight sequence with the flame man and brother man.

Christ that was terrible.

I only saw Sausage Party and it was pretty shit tbh. Felt like it was marketed to young teenagers and 50-somethings who still view their porn through magazines and VCR tapes.