Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 05, 2015, 11:00:32 AMQuote from: Orion on July 05, 2015, 10:53:15 AMQuote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 10:42:32 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 05, 2015, 10:29:17 AMQuote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 10:27:20 AMObviously it's niggers.And when I say niggers, I mean people who contribute nothing to society, commit crimes, and lack education. Regardless of race.then why not just say that, thenidiotCause if I didn't explain it plebs like you would think I'm referring to all black people.DumbassWhen I see the word nigger I think blacks. Not your made up definition.But I guess you're right. Anyone who doesn't get your personal references before you've even explained them is obviously an idiot.That's not what I think of.The word is undergoing rebranding and if you haven't heard of the new definition then you've been living under a rock since the 90s.Listen to more Chris Rock.I love how it's only the right wing racists on this site who seem to be "rebranding" the word. Hmm
Quote from: Orion on July 05, 2015, 10:53:15 AMQuote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 10:42:32 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 05, 2015, 10:29:17 AMQuote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 10:27:20 AMObviously it's niggers.And when I say niggers, I mean people who contribute nothing to society, commit crimes, and lack education. Regardless of race.then why not just say that, thenidiotCause if I didn't explain it plebs like you would think I'm referring to all black people.DumbassWhen I see the word nigger I think blacks. Not your made up definition.But I guess you're right. Anyone who doesn't get your personal references before you've even explained them is obviously an idiot.That's not what I think of.The word is undergoing rebranding and if you haven't heard of the new definition then you've been living under a rock since the 90s.Listen to more Chris Rock.
Quote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 10:42:32 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 05, 2015, 10:29:17 AMQuote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 10:27:20 AMObviously it's niggers.And when I say niggers, I mean people who contribute nothing to society, commit crimes, and lack education. Regardless of race.then why not just say that, thenidiotCause if I didn't explain it plebs like you would think I'm referring to all black people.DumbassWhen I see the word nigger I think blacks. Not your made up definition.But I guess you're right. Anyone who doesn't get your personal references before you've even explained them is obviously an idiot.
Quote from: Verbatim on July 05, 2015, 10:29:17 AMQuote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 10:27:20 AMObviously it's niggers.And when I say niggers, I mean people who contribute nothing to society, commit crimes, and lack education. Regardless of race.then why not just say that, thenidiotCause if I didn't explain it plebs like you would think I'm referring to all black people.Dumbass
Quote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 10:27:20 AMObviously it's niggers.And when I say niggers, I mean people who contribute nothing to society, commit crimes, and lack education. Regardless of race.then why not just say that, thenidiot
Obviously it's niggers.And when I say niggers, I mean people who contribute nothing to society, commit crimes, and lack education. Regardless of race.
Quote from: Snake Wilson on July 05, 2015, 12:38:01 PMQuote from: TBlocks on July 05, 2015, 12:34:30 PMNext time I see you remind me to lend you "Better to have never been" by David Benatar. It explains some of the stuff Verb's trying to get across. The logic is flawless. The viewpoint is infallible if you believe in any kind of contemporary morality (which, I'm fairly sure you do). It just might be that Verb isn't explaining it all that well to you.Very possible however I'm sensing my view of morality might differ quite a bit.
Quote from: TBlocks on July 05, 2015, 12:34:30 PMNext time I see you remind me to lend you "Better to have never been" by David Benatar. It explains some of the stuff Verb's trying to get across. The logic is flawless. The viewpoint is infallible if you believe in any kind of contemporary morality (which, I'm fairly sure you do). It just might be that Verb isn't explaining it all that well to you.
Quote from: TBlocks on July 05, 2015, 12:43:12 PMQuote from: Snake Wilson on July 05, 2015, 12:38:01 PMQuote from: TBlocks on July 05, 2015, 12:34:30 PMNext time I see you remind me to lend you "Better to have never been" by David Benatar. It explains some of the stuff Verb's trying to get across. The logic is flawless. The viewpoint is infallible if you believe in any kind of contemporary morality (which, I'm fairly sure you do). It just might be that Verb isn't explaining it all that well to you.Very possible however I'm sensing my view of morality might differ quite a bit.If you believe that making others suffer for your own happiness is a bad thing (I.E., taking someone else's candy bar because you'd rather eat it, even though they paid for it), than we have the same view of morality. Verb and I have... just thought it through to it's logical (and, admittedly, counterintuitive) conclusion.
I don't know about counter-intuitive. Maybe in the sense that most people don't realize that survival isn't a good purpose, nor is it a good reason to reproduce. A lot of people think that.
Quote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 10:27:20 AMObviously it's niggers.And when I say niggers, I mean people who contribute nothing to society, commit crimes, and lack education. Regardless of race.except nigger is used to describe black people in general not what you're describing.
Quote from: guts on July 05, 2015, 12:58:11 PMQuote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 10:27:20 AMObviously it's niggers.And when I say niggers, I mean people who contribute nothing to society, commit crimes, and lack education. Regardless of race.except nigger is used to describe black people in general not what you're describing.Listen to Chris Rock
Chris Rock is an idiot.
Quote from: Ingloriouswho98 on July 05, 2015, 11:37:46 AMYes they can feel pain and distressThat's suffering.Call it whatever you want. I call it suffering.That's what it's about. Animals shouldn't ever feel pain. Animals shouldn't ever be tortured.Ever.
Yes they can feel pain and distress
If pain is suffering, why are you prioritizing animals over humans?
Quote from: Ingloriouswho98 on July 05, 2015, 11:37:46 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 05, 2015, 11:30:41 AMQuote from: Ingloriouswho98 on July 05, 2015, 11:27:59 AMEthics is a human invention You're projecting human emotions onto animals in order to make you feel betternopei'm making a basic logic equationsuffering = badanimals sufferanimals suffering = badWOWSO COMPLEXSUCH HUMAN CONSTRUCTIt is though Because animals don't suffer Suffering is not a concept animals know Everything you're saying about how animals suffer and shit are all what you think they feel instead of what they actually feelYes they can feel pain and distress but they don't sit around and ponder the sadness that's been happening in their lives http://thewildlife.wbur.org/2014/08/28/animals-do-have-emotions-but-what-should-we-call-them/http://icb.oxfordjournals.org/content/40/6/883.fullhttp://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/10/121004-animals-depression-health-science/as with all things, the truth is actually somewhere in the middle.
Quote from: Verbatim on July 05, 2015, 11:30:41 AMQuote from: Ingloriouswho98 on July 05, 2015, 11:27:59 AMEthics is a human invention You're projecting human emotions onto animals in order to make you feel betternopei'm making a basic logic equationsuffering = badanimals sufferanimals suffering = badWOWSO COMPLEXSUCH HUMAN CONSTRUCTIt is though Because animals don't suffer Suffering is not a concept animals know Everything you're saying about how animals suffer and shit are all what you think they feel instead of what they actually feelYes they can feel pain and distress but they don't sit around and ponder the sadness that's been happening in their lives
Quote from: Ingloriouswho98 on July 05, 2015, 11:27:59 AMEthics is a human invention You're projecting human emotions onto animals in order to make you feel betternopei'm making a basic logic equationsuffering = badanimals sufferanimals suffering = badWOWSO COMPLEXSUCH HUMAN CONSTRUCT
Ethics is a human invention You're projecting human emotions onto animals in order to make you feel better
It only took one page for the stupidity to come out. Hahaha smh
Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 05, 2015, 12:57:09 PMQuote from: challengerX on July 05, 2015, 12:39:40 PMQuote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 05, 2015, 11:00:32 AMQuote from: Orion on July 05, 2015, 10:53:15 AMQuote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 10:42:32 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 05, 2015, 10:29:17 AMQuote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 10:27:20 AMObviously it's niggers.And when I say niggers, I mean people who contribute nothing to society, commit crimes, and lack education. Regardless of race.then why not just say that, thenidiotCause if I didn't explain it plebs like you would think I'm referring to all black people.DumbassWhen I see the word nigger I think blacks. Not your made up definition.But I guess you're right. Anyone who doesn't get your personal references before you've even explained them is obviously an idiot.That's not what I think of.The word is undergoing rebranding and if you haven't heard of the new definition then you've been living under a rock since the 90s.Listen to more Chris Rock.I love how it's only the right wing racists on this site who seem to be "rebranding" the word. HmmOh yeah bro Chris Rock is a right wing racist.No, he's a comedian. And his skit on if white people can say the N word he says "not really". But sure, try and use Chris Rock to back up your racism and confederate flag shilling.
Quote from: challengerX on July 05, 2015, 12:39:40 PMQuote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 05, 2015, 11:00:32 AMQuote from: Orion on July 05, 2015, 10:53:15 AMQuote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 10:42:32 AMQuote from: Verbatim on July 05, 2015, 10:29:17 AMQuote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 10:27:20 AMObviously it's niggers.And when I say niggers, I mean people who contribute nothing to society, commit crimes, and lack education. Regardless of race.then why not just say that, thenidiotCause if I didn't explain it plebs like you would think I'm referring to all black people.DumbassWhen I see the word nigger I think blacks. Not your made up definition.But I guess you're right. Anyone who doesn't get your personal references before you've even explained them is obviously an idiot.That's not what I think of.The word is undergoing rebranding and if you haven't heard of the new definition then you've been living under a rock since the 90s.Listen to more Chris Rock.I love how it's only the right wing racists on this site who seem to be "rebranding" the word. HmmOh yeah bro Chris Rock is a right wing racist.
Quote from: Ingloriouswho98 on July 05, 2015, 01:31:49 PMIf pain is suffering, why are you prioritizing animals over humans? They're the ones that are undergoing a holocaust.
Verbatim what would you do if you were ever stuck in a survival situation (Like trapped in mountains or in woods)?Would you hunt or what?
Quote from: PSU on July 05, 2015, 01:45:14 PMVerbatim what would you do if you were ever stuck in a survival situation (Like trapped in mountains or in woods)?Would you hunt or what?Probably.Which may seem hypocritical, but I never said I was a paragon of virtue or anything. There was a time when I wasn't a vegan.Or, hell, maybe I wouldn't care, and I would starve and die.
I thought you said you would rather die tomorrow than stop being vegan?
What is the lowest tier of human being, as close to chimps as you can get?
