What happens if Russia actually did steal the election for Trump?

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I don't believe there's a precedent for this.

We've one less SCOTUS judge. And many of the senatorial sections might be called into question too.

The prospects of what could come next has me thinking that this may be one of those things best left alone.


 
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But how would they have done it?


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But how would they have done it?

The highest number Trump carried any of the swing states was under 100,000. Scattered evenly, that's not that hard to conceal. In some states, that's under 2,000 per district.

The NSA has issued a statement that this may indeed be the case. I don't think they would say that in a press conference if they thought it was nothing.

But the real question is what do we do if this is true? Just installing Hillary is out. It would look like the Obama Administration nullified an election and chose their successor. Has a runoff ever happened before?  And say we did solve that issue. What is our response to Russia?

Like I said, And don't see a happy ending to this.


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It's incredibly dubious that Russia actually cheated our election. Their obsession with Not-Clinton is simply out of not wanting to go to war with us, which she would have caused. In the event that it did however occur, chances are it would go to SCOTUS who would probably determine the winner, which would just give it back to Trump since Clinton has ceded the election. This was the case in 2000, Gore could've continued fighting for FL, but he ceded leaving Bush the only candidate left and thus the certified winner.


 
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But how would they have done it?

The highest number Trump carried any of the swing states was under 100,000. Scattered evenly, that's not that hard to conceal. In some states, that's under 2,000 per district.

The NSA has issued a statement that this may indeed be the case. I don't think they would say that in a press conference if they thought it was nothing.

But the real question is what do we do if this is true? Just installing Hillary is out. It would look like the Obama Administration nullified an election and chose their successor. Has a runoff ever happened before?  And say we did solve that issue. What is our response to Russia?

Like I said, And don't see a happy ending to this.
So how would they have stuffed the boxes?


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But how would they have done it?

The highest number Trump carried any of the swing states was under 100,000. Scattered evenly, that's not that hard to conceal. In some states, that's under 2,000 per district.

The NSA has issued a statement that this may indeed be the case. I don't think they would say that in a press conference if they thought it was nothing.

But the real question is what do we do if this is true? Just installing Hillary is out. It would look like the Obama Administration nullified an election and chose their successor. Has a runoff ever happened before?  And say we did solve that issue. What is our response to Russia?

Like I said, And don't see a happy ending to this.
So how would they have stuffed the boxes?

The voting machines.


 
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>Implying Russia would back down to a No Fly Zone in the region of one of their allies that they're heavily involved in.

The US is the aggressor here, there's no argument to this.

lmao


 
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ISIS and Rebels are impossible to distinguish, I guess that's intentional on ISIS's part but it's regardless they're both enemies of Syria's state which Russia is allies with. Both ISIS and the Rebels are awful, we're talking about leaders eating the hearts of their fucking dead enemies. Oh but mean old Assad is accused of using chemical weapons when, oh look, it was the Rebels all along.

Russia is not in the wrong here.

They should. Otherwise we should attack Russia. They're bombing Syrians indiscriminately.


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is simply out of not wanting to go to war with us, which she would have caused.
lmao
she would at the very least have escalated syria to a full blown proxy war


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Oh but mean old Assad is accused of using chemical weapons when, oh look, it was the Rebels all along.


They should. Otherwise we should attack Russia. They're bombing Syrians indiscriminately.
how does that kool aid taste?


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Assad did nothing wrong.

The only reason the US intervened is because Russia is involved.

how does that kool aid taste?


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Assad did nothing wrong.

The only reason the US intervened is because Russia is involved.

how does that kool aid taste?
yes assad is a wonderful benevolent leader who has never been responsible for anyone's suffering. praise be unto him!


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Now you're getting it.

yes assad is a wonderful benevolent leader who has never been responsible for anyone's suffering. praise be unto him!


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>Implying Russia would back down to a No Fly Zone in the region of one of their allies that they're heavily involved in.

The US is the aggressor here, there's no argument to this.

lmao
They should. Otherwise we should attack Russia. They're bombing Syrians indiscriminately.
Meanwhile.
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/may/6/syrian-rebels-used-sarin-nerve-gas-not-assads-regi/
https://www.rt.com/news/367602-aleppo-chemical-attacks-russia/


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Assume that Russia did actually interfere with the election, though. What would happen?


 
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Russia be hacking my paper ballots smh


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Assume that Russia did actually interfere with the election, though. What would happen?

That's the point. Can we install Hillary?


 
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Based on what's currently written into law, since Trump and his next in line (Pence) were elected illegitimately, Paul Ryan would become president. Those are the succession rules.

Since a foreign power influencing an election is very unprecedented, though, I think we'd just end up having another one.


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It shouldn't matter because the best and most qualified person won, regardless of tampering.


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I doubt it, though to be fair the Russians did hack my Steam account at some point but I was quick enough to get it back.


 
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>Implying Russia would back down to a No Fly Zone in the region of one of their allies that they're heavily involved in.

The US is the aggressor here, there's no argument to this.

lmao
Obama, Erdogan, Hollande all previously spoke about a NFZ no one did it because it means war with Russia I don't see why it would be any different with Clinton.


ISIS and Rebels are impossible to distinguish, I guess that's intentional on ISIS's part but it's regardless they're both enemies of Syria's state which Russia is allies with. Both ISIS and the Rebels are awful, we're talking about leaders eating the hearts of their fucking dead enemies. Oh but mean old Assad is accused of using chemical weapons when, oh look, it was the Rebels all along.

Russia is not in the wrong here.

IS and rebels are very easy to distinguish actually since IS doesn't accept the presence of any other groups in its territory, they force them to pledge allegiance and join them or they fight them. Also the rebel fighter eating an organ happened once, Assad's gas attack hurt thousands.
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Obama, Erdogan, Hollande all previously spoke about a NFZ no one did it because it means war with Russia I don't see why it would be any different with Clinton.

Obama is a fucking pussy who half-asses everything on international military concerns. Clinton went out of her way during her campaign to advocate for it in an effort to "punish" Russia just for supporting their ally.


IS and rebels are very easy to distinguish actually since IS doesn't accept the presence of any other groups in its territory, they force them to pledge allegiance and join them or they fight them. Also the rebel fighter eating an organ happened once, Assad's gas attack hurt thousands.

There's two links in this thread showing the rebels are the ones using the chemical weapons. Of course only US news will say it's Assad because anything else would be a "Pro-Russian-Ally". The current US administration wants a war with Russia so fucking bad when Russia has done nothing to instigate it.


 
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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.

Obama is a fucking pussy who half-asses everything on international military concerns. Clinton went out of her way during her campaign to advocate for it in an effort to "punish" Russia just for supporting their ally.

Trump campaigned against Obamacare and look what happened there. If you think America would go to all out war over Syria you're just silly.


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There's two links in this thread showing the rebels are the ones using the chemical weapons. Of course only US news will say it's Assad because anything else would be a "Pro-Russian-Ally". The current US administration wants a war with Russia so fucking bad when Russia has done nothing to instigate it.
One of them is RT so that's bs anyway, the Washington times article states there is no proof just "strong, concrete suspicions" they mention concrete but it's still a suspicion. On the other hand shortly after the attack happened in 2013 German Intel services listened in on a phone call with a Hezbollah operative and Iran where the former criticised Assads use even though Hezbollah are big supporters of the Regime

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10284773/Syria-crisis-chemical-weapons-use-a-big-mistake-Hizbollah-told-Iran.html


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Trump campaigned against Obamacare and look what happened there. If you think America would go to all out war over Syria you're just silly.

What the flying fuck does Trump's comments over Obamacare have to do with international intervention? You're acting just like the Obama administration was before the election, completely blind to the obvious tension with Russia that they were causing. The US keeps backing them into a corner and you think Russia will just pipe down? Everyone knows that's not fair and it would be worse publicity for the US than it would be for Russia since they did nothing to start it.


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One of them is RT so that's bs anyway, the Washington times article states there is no proof just "strong, concrete suspicions" they mention concrete but it's still a suspicion. On the other hand shortly after the attack happened in 2013 German Intel services listened in on a phone call with a Hezbollah operative and Iran where the former criticised Assads use even though Hezbollah are big supporters of the Regime

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/10284773/Syria-crisis-chemical-weapons-use-a-big-mistake-Hizbollah-told-Iran.html

>Anti-Russian news sources claim Russia's allies are the true terrorists

Who would've thought. Even if this is true, Assad is still the lesser evil. This is Iraq all over again, you topple Assad, then what? With IS and the Rebels in the immediate area does the US think it can install a puppet state that will blindly kiss their feet? Pffffft.
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Wow, didn't think Ian was one of the "Russia did nothing wrong" crowd


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I'm very Pro-American because an allied US with Russia will help with the Anglo-Sphere along with the UK and a slumbering Germany/France/Scandinavia that must wake up.

However Obama/Clinton and the current administration is determined to prevent this from occurring at all costs. Including triggering an international military conflict and trying to scapegoat Russia who has been pushed back repeatedly simply for existing. Didn't want Crimea to happen? Maybe NATO shouldn't have gone back on their word of "We wont move missile defenses an inch closer to your border. :^)"

Wow, didn't think Ian was one of the "Russia did nothing wrong" crowd


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
I'm very Pro-American because an allied US with Russia will help with the Anglo-Sphere along with the UK and a slumbering Germany/France/Scandinavia that must wake up.

However Obama/Clinton and the current administration is determined to prevent this from occurring at all costs. Including triggering an international military conflict and trying to scapegoat Russia who has been pushed back repeatedly simply for existing. Didn't want Crimea to happen? Maybe NATO shouldn't have gone back on their word of "We wont move missile defenses an inch closer to your border. :^)"

Wow, didn't think Ian was one of the "Russia did nothing wrong" crowd
Yes, the answer to a defensive missile grid is to invade a sovereign nation.


 
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