What do you think, if anything, is wrong with the flood board? [Unofficial]

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ban all funnazis


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Due to the way you've gone about serious criteria, I feel that a lot of people who post something and want a genuine discussion will probably get their stuff buried under shitposts or just get 'K.' for answers or something, if I user my own examples, it's like when I post my writing stuff and it just goes onto the second page in about ten minutes becase of spam. I guess having a semi-serious board would be cool, where proper discussion can go but the flood stays as it's shit[pos]ty self.

Or if anarchy were permanent, then have the flood as that genuine discussion board and have anarchy as the spam shit board like it is now.
This seems like a good idea.


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I may just have a stick up my ass but I'm really sick of the flagrant use of shit like 'nigger' and 'faggot'.
faggot
Nigger.


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Due to the way you've gone about serious criteria, I feel that a lot of people who post something and want a genuine discussion will probably get their stuff buried under shitposts or just get 'K.' for answers or something, if I user my own examples, it's like when I post my writing stuff and it just goes onto the second page in about ten minutes becase of spam. I guess having a semi-serious board would be cool, where proper discussion can go but the flood stays as it's shit[pos]ty self.

Or if anarchy were permanent, then have the flood as that genuine discussion board and have anarchy as the spam shit board like it is now.
Or we could just allow all serious discussion in serious regardless of the content. Which would seem like an easier and more logical solution.

All this new system will result in is more people complaining about shitposts burrying and derailing their threads in flood. Then the complainers will move on to saying we need to be more strict on shitposting (as they are in this thread). 

We already have a board for that. Its called Serious.


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Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
The shitposting. Threads with no discussion value should just be deleted. You mods don't need to be so lenient.
I don't patricularly care for shitposts one way or the other. But making it a priority to remove all of them makes my job harder and makes it harder for me to hold a good standing among the community.

'Shitposting' is such an arbitrary term. Who gets to decide on what constitutes a shitpost?


 
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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
The shitposting. Threads with no discussion value should just be deleted. You mods don't need to be so lenient.
I don't patricularly care for shitposts one way or the other. But making it a priority to remove all of them makes my job harder and makes it harder for me to hold a good standing among the community.

'Shitposting' is such an arbitrary term. Who gets to decide on what constitutes a shitpost?
The obvious dumb shit like "cheat is a faggot" or a just a "lol" and then another lol in the post body. I know it's a burden on the moderators which I've refrained from shitposting or being a nuisance (more so than normal >.>) It's shame others don't fucking care that people waste their time cleaning up their bs. Looking at the front page now it's not bad.


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If you guys seriously ban shitposting have fun killing the site and losing half or more of your active posters.
If you can't discuss things without shitposting, maybe the site isn't the problem...


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I may just have a stick up my ass but I'm really sick of the flagrant use of shit like 'nigger' and 'faggot'.
Quite.


 
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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
If you guys seriously ban shitposting have fun killing the site and losing half or more of your active posters.
Nah not shitposting in general just the retarded stuff.


 
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If you guys seriously ban shitposting have fun killing the site and losing half or more of your active posters.
Nah not shitposting in general just the retarded stuff.
One user's funny thread is another's shitpost.


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If I'm not here, I'm doing photography. Or I'm asleep. Or in lockdown. One of those three, anyway.

The current titlebar/avatar setup is just normal.
This is just a wider thing, seeing as I think there's a few other issues.

I think Serious shouldn't be limited to certain topics, just follow by it's title. You want an actual, serious discussion about science, life, maths, technology (including computer or part recommendations), and everything else currently in serious, than you ask or discuss it there. e.g. You wanted a solution for some computer error and thought someone here could help, you could ask it there and not expect "try xbox.com" as an answer.

Flood can keep it's shitposting that way as if you want a "real" thread on a topic, you can do it on Serious, while anyone and everyone can ask random questions or discuss interesting stuff on Flood if they don't care if it gets serious talk or just meme text, one word answers, (smallish) arguements or >implying.

Personally I think the shitposting is excessive, but due to the nature of this place (it's small size and general behavior of us lot), if you got rid of it there would be literally fuck all to talk about in Flood other than the occasional what-if scenario or "What/How/Where X are you/do you have" threads.

Gaming, Septagon and News are the only boards that are fine and haven't needed much fiddling with.


 
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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
If you guys seriously ban shitposting have fun killing the site and losing half or more of your active posters.
Nah not shitposting in general just the retarded stuff.
One user's funny thread is another's shitpost.
"cheat is a nigger lol"
Really? That's funny? The world nigger isn't some casual shit to throw around.


 
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If you guys seriously ban shitposting have fun killing the site and losing half or more of your active posters.
If you can't discuss things without shitposting, maybe the site isn't the problem...
I'm not wrong. Shitposters are a large majority of this website's traffic sorry we don't take the internetz super srs
You know it's possible to enjoy a site and talk about fun things without shitposting, right?


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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
The obvious dumb shit like "cheat is a faggot" or a just a "lol" and then another lol in the post body. I know it's a burden on the moderators which I've refrained from shitposting or being a nuisance (more so than normal >.>) It's shame others don't fucking care that people waste their time cleaning up their bs. Looking at the front page now it's not bad.
And say someone makes a thread about some inside joke. Maybe a few members join in because they get it. And then comes along Johnny Whineass to smite the heathens with his criticism and reports, claiming, "Shitpost! Shitpost!"

Now here I am stuck with the dilemma of either removing a thread that doesn't harm anyone, or ignoring someone's reports. Both outcomes having just as much potential as the other to initiate more babbling about 'modbias' and the like.

There are countless scenarios where this can arise because there is no real definition for a 'shitpost.' Moderating needs to be objective and consistent as possible and relying on subjective tactics is a major contributor to a large portion of the type of 'staff drama' that seems to circulate around here all too often.
Last Edit: January 21, 2015, 06:30:19 PM by DemonicChronic


 
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Oh, hey.
Psy is smart, so I support any movement he makes.

Your my delegate/senator for this website.


 
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The obvious dumb shit like "cheat is a faggot" or a just a "lol" and then another lol in the post body. I know it's a burden on the moderators which I've refrained from shitposting or being a nuisance (more so than normal >.>) It's shame others don't fucking care that people waste their time cleaning up their bs. Looking at the front page now it's not bad.
And say someone makes a thread about some inside joke. Maybe a few members join in because they get it. And then comes along Johnny Whineass to smite the heathens with his criticism and reports, claiming, "Shitpost! Shitpost!"

Now here I am stuck with a the dilemma of either removing a thread that doesn't harm anyone, or ignoring someone's reports. Both outcomes having just as much potential as the other to initiate more babbling about 'modbias' and the like.

There are countless scenarios where this can arise because there is no real definition for a 'shitpost.' Moderating needs to be objective and consistent as possible and relying on subjective tactics is a major contributor to a large portion of the type of 'staff drama' that seems to circulate around here all too often.
This is what I was getting at Gatsby.

Cheers Demonic.


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Why do people feel the need to have serious topics and censored discussions in the flood?
I honestly don't get it. Someone explain it to me.
Last Edit: January 21, 2015, 06:27:43 PM by Naoto


 
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Why do people feel the need to have serious topics and censored discussions in the flood?
I honestly don't get it. Someone explain it to me.
So, if I want to seriously talk about Anime, it goes in Serious?


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Why do people feel the need to have serious topics and censored discussions in the flood?
I honestly don't get it. Someone explain it to me.
So, if I want to seriously talk about Anime, it goes in Serious?
If you're going to bitch and moan about shitposting yes. If not then you're not complaining.
I don't see why it can't go in serious if its a genuinely serious discussion. (not that I know how you would have a serious discussion about anime.....art style and voice acting maybe?) We can post about politics in a nonserious manner here after all.


Of course ignoring the fact that I'd vote for an anime board  :P

Nuka had a DA:I thread in Serious since it was about a trans character. Seemed to work just fine. I probably would have preferred it in Gaming, but I'm sure the discussion was helped by the Serious rules.
Last Edit: January 21, 2015, 06:50:17 PM by Naoto


 
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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
I wish, but I have no time to play neopets. I haven't made a thread about the issue nor have ever complained about it. This is literally the first time. I just dunno, I'm bored of calling each other faggots and retards. It's just not funny.

Hmm you make a good point I would have thought mods would use their own discretion when deciding whether a thread was bullshit or not. But I guess that's not the best route keeping the community happy. However the community could do with a kick up the arse.


 
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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
But no one gives a shit whether or not you think its funny since humor is completely subjective
"cheat is a faggot nigger"
Did you laugh? No. Case closed.


 
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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Hmm you make a good point I would have thought mods would use their own discretion when deciding whether a thread was bullshit or not. But I guess that's not the best route keeping the community happy. However the community could do with a kick up the arse.
I try to be reasonably discrete when moderating, but that will never stop people from complaining. Not having a specific target to direct their hate towards just means they'll direct it towards the staff as a whole. The drama still has a foothold and will find a way to manifest itself no matter the target.

You have to eliminate the foothold, you see. We as staff can't give drama a foundation to run rampant by the way we conduct ourselves and our policy. At least, that is what we need to strive for. It's not the easiest thing to accomplish, of course.


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How about this guys.

Leave flood alone, allow shot posting to an extent and don't allow all the mean stuff as per usual

Make serious serious discussion about anything. An example above is getting serious answers about building a PC and not getting "try Xbox.com"

Change gaming to entertainment. This is a board of anime, games, movies, sports and stuff.


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I dont really care what the page is filled with but something with discussion value is appreciated.