Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on March 02, 2015, 12:13:21 AM

Quote from: Sigma617 on March 02, 2015, 12:11:32 AM

Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on March 01, 2015, 11:49:20 PM

Piety, self-control, abstinence from immoral or dishonorable activities, and serve the Galactic Empire.

Following in the footsteps of good men that believed in a day's work for a day's pay.

Yeah, basically.

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I caught that by the way. Rorschach's philosophy (excluding his atheism) and my own are quite similar.

Quite interesting that you note Atheism as a fault, instead of his misogynistic tendencies.

Not that I blame him under the circumstances.

I think he's the way he was because he was never given a positive example. He doesn't believe in a higher power because he's never really exposed to good, and thus sees little to no hope in the world. He has a misogynistic view of women because he's only ever exposed to whores and other immoral individuals, rather than women of strong moral character.

He's really quite a tragic (but badass) character. He stands out as the most morally pure amongst the Watchmen, and yet, he was never exposed to good, only the evil and immorality of the world. Instead of a love of good, he is motivated by hatred, a hatred of all things evil.

Maximize pleasure, minimize pain. Pretty standard.

Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on March 02, 2015, 12:54:21 AM

I think he's the way he was because he was never given a positive example. He doesn't believe in a higher power because he's never really exposed to good, and thus sees little to no hope in the world. He has a misogynistic view of women because he's only ever exposed to whores and other immoral individuals, rather than women of strong moral character.

He's really quite a tragic (but badass) character. He stands out as the most morally pure amongst the Watchmen, and yet, he was never exposed to good, only the evil and immorality of the world. Instead of a love of good, he is motivated by hatred, a hatred of all things evil.

That is precisely why Rorschach is not only my favorite of the Watchmen, but also my favorite DC character.
His uncompromising nature is quite unique.

Indeed. I love how Moore has stated he doesn't know why Rorschach became so popular. Gee, I wonder why, Alan? Maybe because you wrote him as the only one who's morally upstanding and a badass?

Quote from: Sigma617 on March 02, 2015, 12:59:21 AM

Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on March 02, 2015, 12:54:21 AM

I think he's the way he was because he was never given a positive example. He doesn't believe in a higher power because he's never really exposed to good, and thus sees little to no hope in the world. He has a misogynistic view of women because he's only ever exposed to whores and other immoral individuals, rather than women of strong moral character.

He's really quite a tragic (but badass) character. He stands out as the most morally pure amongst the Watchmen, and yet, he was never exposed to good, only the evil and immorality of the world. Instead of a love of good, he is motivated by hatred, a hatred of all things evil.

That is precisely why Rorschach is not only my favorite of the Watchmen, but also my favorite DC character.
His uncompromising nature is quite unique.

Indeed. I love how Moore has stated he doesn't know why Rorschach became so popular. Gee, I wonder why, Alan? Maybe because you wrote him as the only one who's morally upstanding and a badass?

Perhaps it's because Rorschach was fundamentally broken in the first place. He never questioned himself, and as time went on he only became more ruthless uncompromising in his actions.

There was no grey for Rorschach. Only black and white.

Quote from: SecondClass on March 02, 2015, 01:04:23 AM

Rorschach is a joke.

"Omg women hav sex, that gives me justification 2 hate them lol"

"omg this guy did something evil that gives me justification 2 torture him mercilessly lol"

Batman needs to invade the Watchmen universe and give that scumbag a well-deserved ass kicking.

Unlike Batman, Rorschach actually takes care of relentlessly evil characters. Batman not killing Joker ceased to be a positive thing long ago. At this point the moral thing to do would be to kill Joker.

Not that I dislike Batman, he's my favorite superhero. But I'm really getting sick of the unending nature of the Batman-Joker conflict, especially in comics where the Joker does some truly appalling stuff.

Not arguing with that, but Rorschach wouldn't have even hesitated to kill the Joker the first time he met him. Hell, Rorschach would've probably tortured him for hours as "justice".

Now, Rorschach would make an amazing villain, and you wouldn't have to change a single thing to make him an antagonist. But the fact that people actually see him as heroic is honestly sickening.

Life is Art.

And Joker deserves to be tortured for hours, dude's just too much trouble to keep alive, and I'd say he deserves it for taking lives.

And Joker deserves to be tortured for hours

deserves to be tortured

Opinion: disregarded.

I actually agree with Class here. I don't think torture as a punishment can ever be justified.

We're talking comic Joker here. As in, kills children and skins men alive for fun Joker, not "le edgy order iz chaos lel" TDK Joker. I'd say if you can't kill him at least paralyze him.

Quote from: Sigma617 on March 02, 2015, 01:17:48 AM

I actually agree with Class here. I don't think torture as a punishment can ever be justified.

We're talking comic Joker here. As in, kills children and skins men alive for fun Joker, not "le edgy order iz chaos lel" TDK Joker. I'd say if you can't kill him at least paralyze him.

I never said he couldn't kill the son of a bitch.

Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on March 02, 2015, 01:19:52 AM

Quote from: Sigma617 on March 02, 2015, 01:17:48 AM

I actually agree with Class here. I don't think torture as a punishment can ever be justified.

We're talking comic Joker here. As in, kills children and skins men alive for fun Joker, not "le edgy order iz chaos lel" TDK Joker. I'd say if you can't kill him at least paralyze him.

I never said he couldn't kill the son of a bitch.

Oh. Sorry, it's 1:30 AM here, been working on essay for a while. Not thinking too clearly.

If she doesn't squat, she's not the one.

"Make money fuck bitches"
                                   -Gandhi

If she doesn't squat, she's not the one.

ayyyy

Basically, people are unimportant and replaceable and nothing we will ever do will impact the universe at large.

Holy shit, this.

I try to explain this to some people I know and they're like "what".