What are the oldest memories you have of your fetishes?

Jim · November 19, 2015, 09:14:19 PM

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eggsalad · November 19, 2015, 09:33:49 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 19, 2015, 09:05:10 PM

You're born with your fetishes. They're not a result of any "experience". It's no different than sexuality.

Not always true.
Sometimes people who were abused when they were young or raped have fetishes involving stuff like that later in life.

SecondClass · November 19, 2015, 09:49:00 PM

Quote from: eggsalad on November 19, 2015, 09:33:49 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 19, 2015, 09:05:10 PM
You're born with your fetishes. They're not a result of any "experience". It's no different than sexuality.
Not always true.

I don't agree.

Verbatim · November 19, 2015, 09:56:31 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 19, 2015, 09:49:00 PM

Quote from: eggsalad on November 19, 2015, 09:33:49 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on November 19, 2015, 09:05:10 PM
You're born with your fetishes. They're not a result of any "experience". It's no different than sexuality.
Not always true.
I don't agree.

on what basis

this was always one of your more fuckazoidal opinions, and i never quite got to the bottom of it

SecondClass · November 19, 2015, 09:58:35 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 19, 2015, 09:56:31 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 19, 2015, 09:49:00 PM
Quote from: eggsalad on November 19, 2015, 09:33:49 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on November 19, 2015, 09:05:10 PM
You're born with your fetishes. They're not a result of any "experience". It's no different than sexuality.
Not always true.
I don't agree.
on what basis

this was always one of your more fuckazoidal opinions, and i never quite got to the bottom of it

Do you think experiences as a child determine whether you're gay or straight? That's rhetorical, by the way, they don't. Fetishes are literally no different at all.

Ásgeirr · November 19, 2015, 09:59:13 PM

I wouldnt go so far as to call them fetishes <.<

but uhhh theyve developed in recent years

eggsalad · November 19, 2015, 10:02:04 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 19, 2015, 09:58:35 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 19, 2015, 09:56:31 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on November 19, 2015, 09:49:00 PM
Quote from: eggsalad on November 19, 2015, 09:33:49 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on November 19, 2015, 09:05:10 PM
You're born with your fetishes. They're not a result of any "experience". It's no different than sexuality.
Not always true.
I don't agree.
on what basis

this was always one of your more fuckazoidal opinions, and i never quite got to the bottom of it
Do you think experiences as a child determine whether you're gay or straight? That's rhetorical, by the way, they don't. Fetishes are literally no different at all.

Except you just disregarded the example I provided, which is a real thing that happens.

Verbatim · November 19, 2015, 10:07:31 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 19, 2015, 09:58:35 PM

Do you think experiences as a child determine whether you're gay or straight? That's rhetorical, by the way, they don't. Fetishes are literally no different at all.

yeah but you're just saying that

because i think they're extremely different
the fact that you're born with your sexuality is intuitive--it actually makes sense

our sexual drive is one of the oldest, most powerful, and most prominent biological instincts that we have, and it makes sense, because if we didn't have that instinct, then we probably wouldn't fuck (and reproduce) nearly as much

fetishes, on the other hand, serve no real biological purpose--you could maybe argue that they're designed to keep us interested in sexual conquest, because after you fuck the same exact way for however many years, shit probably gets a little bit boring, so our mind comes up with ways to make sex wild and fun again

...but that would mean they'd have to be acquired, which you're arguing against

most fetishes are based not around vague, nebulous concepts like "masculinity" and "femininity"
one of the hallmarks of sexual fetishists is that they tend to be very particular about their fetish

so what the fuck

Coomer · November 19, 2015, 10:08:34 PM

Verbatim masturbates with soy wrapped around his dick

Verbatim · November 19, 2015, 10:10:27 PM

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Verbatim masturbates with soy wrapped around his dick

uh, ew

SecondClass · November 19, 2015, 10:13:45 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 19, 2015, 10:07:31 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 19, 2015, 09:58:35 PM
Do you think experiences as a child determine whether you're gay or straight? That's rhetorical, by the way, they don't. Fetishes are literally no different at all.
yeah but you're just saying that

because i think they're extremely different
the fact that you're born with your sexuality is intuitive--it actually makes sense

our sexual drive is one of the oldest, most powerful, and most prominent biological instincts that we have, and it makes sense, because if we didn't have that instinct, then we probably wouldn't fuck (and reproduce) nearly as much

fetishes, on the other hand, serve no real biological purpose--you could maybe argue that they're designed to keep us interested in sexual conquest, because after you fuck the same exact way for however many years, shit probably gets a little bit boring, so our mind comes up with ways to make sex wild and fun again

...but that would mean they'd have to be acquired, which you're arguing against

most fetishes are based not around vague, nebulous concepts like "masculinity" and "femininity"
one of the hallmarks of sexual fetishists is that they tend to be very particular about their fetish

so what the fuck

There's no biological purpose to homosexuality, so this argument makes no sense.

Verbatim · November 19, 2015, 10:15:04 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 19, 2015, 10:13:45 PM

There's no biological purpose to homosexuality, so this argument makes no sense.

yeah there is

it's to reproduce

only something went genetically wrong, obviously, and they ended up being attracted to the "wrong" sex

nature is imperfect, surprise surprise

why does that mean fetishes are natural

Verbatim · November 19, 2015, 10:20:03 PM

it's a smart idea to come to the argument prepared

if you can't defend what you're saying, then perhaps you shouldn't say it so confidently

SecondClass · November 19, 2015, 10:23:45 PM

I don't take the Internet as seriously as you verby

I just know I didn't wake up one day and decide to acquire all of these fetishes

to say that you're not born with them is to place blame on someone for something they have no control over

Elai · November 19, 2015, 10:26:51 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 19, 2015, 10:20:03 PM

if you can't defend what you're saying, then perhaps you shouldn't say it so confidently

yeah but on this website, i've found that people aren't willing to educate you unless you take a hard stance on things

for example, it's no secret that i'm hear to learn/argue. but if i want to know, say, whether or not eating animals would be moral if we were strictly carnivorous, I can't just straight up ask that -- I have to say "eating animals is wrong, even if we were carnivores." because then people feel more obliged to respond and argue with you -- try to prove you wrong. you learn more that way.

if that makes any sense. that's why i sometimes say things that are kinda... out there.

i'm sure secondclass isn't doing that here, though.

Verbatim · November 19, 2015, 10:29:28 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 19, 2015, 10:23:45 PM

I just know I didn't wake up one day and decide to acquire all of these fetishes

to say that you're not born with them is to place blame on someone for something they have no control over

that's not how we're saying it works, though

you act like it's either "born with 'em," or "chose to have them"

no, there's a third option you're apparently not taking into account, and it works similarly to how your interests develop--you weren't born a kingdom hearts fan; you grew to like it as soon you actually started playing it

you didn't CHOOSE to like it--you just like it, because it entertains you on some level

that's pretty much how fetishes work, too

you have about as much a reason to believe what you believe as i do, so
i just don't understand the exorbitant confidence you have, when you have nothing to back it up with

Jim · November 20, 2015, 01:27:25 AM

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SecondClass · November 20, 2015, 01:59:45 AM

Quote from: Jim on November 20, 2015, 01:27:25 AM

I just wanted to talk about dirty things and Class had to ruin it like he does everything else

if you think that your fetishes are chosen by yourself you're pretty much admitting you want to fuck your own mother

R o c k e t · November 20, 2015, 02:39:26 AM

none because I'm not FUCKING WEIRD

Sandtrap · November 20, 2015, 04:15:38 AM

I can accurately pin down where the majority of them started. In fact I can still remember the exact games, movies, or pictures that sparked the interest.

Ender · November 20, 2015, 05:37:05 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 20, 2015, 01:59:45 AM

Quote from: Jim on November 20, 2015, 01:27:25 AM
I just wanted to talk about dirty things and Class had to ruin it like he does everything else
if you think that your fetishes are chosen by yourself you're pretty much admitting you want to fuck your own mother

Uh I thought this was obvious.

Elai · November 20, 2015, 07:58:00 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 20, 2015, 01:59:45 AM

if you think that your fetishes are chosen by yourself you're pretty much admitting you want to fuck your own mother

Pretty sure no one said this.

Yu · November 20, 2015, 08:11:06 AM

Back when I was around 8 years old things, happened, also around 6.

Mr. Psychologist · November 20, 2015, 08:54:52 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 19, 2015, 10:13:45 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 19, 2015, 10:07:31 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on November 19, 2015, 09:58:35 PM
Do you think experiences as a child determine whether you're gay or straight? That's rhetorical, by the way, they don't. Fetishes are literally no different at all.
yeah but you're just saying that

because i think they're extremely different
the fact that you're born with your sexuality is intuitive--it actually makes sense

our sexual drive is one of the oldest, most powerful, and most prominent biological instincts that we have, and it makes sense, because if we didn't have that instinct, then we probably wouldn't fuck (and reproduce) nearly as much

fetishes, on the other hand, serve no real biological purpose--you could maybe argue that they're designed to keep us interested in sexual conquest, because after you fuck the same exact way for however many years, shit probably gets a little bit boring, so our mind comes up with ways to make sex wild and fun again

...but that would mean they'd have to be acquired, which you're arguing against

most fetishes are based not around vague, nebulous concepts like "masculinity" and "femininity"
one of the hallmarks of sexual fetishists is that they tend to be very particular about their fetish

so what the fuck
There's no biological purpose to homosexuality, so this argument makes no sense.

Actually there are a fair few purported theories as to why it occurs, all of which are evolutionarily sound (Or fairly close anyway).

I could try and explain it all and make a pigs ear of it, but the author of this article does a splendid job so I'd just have a read

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26089486

tl;dr is that if the allele theory is the correct one, it increases fertility/reproductive rates in females and occasionally gets passed onto males so the net result is still a positive shift on the natural selection route.

Jim · November 20, 2015, 10:55:55 AM

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Solonoid · November 20, 2015, 10:59:36 AM

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You're born with your fetishes. They're not a result of any "experience". It's no different than sexuality.
I don't think I was born thinking DP on a girl with a vibrator was a possibility.
You don't even know what a fucking penis or vagina is when you're born, but it's a proven fact that whether you're hetero or homo is a result of genes, genius. Fetishes are the same way.

No it's not.

People with identical DNA can have different sexual preferences.

Solonoid · November 20, 2015, 11:03:50 AM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 19, 2015, 10:23:45 PM

I don't take the Internet as seriously as you verby

I just know I didn't wake up one day and decide to acquire all of these fetishes

to say that you're not born with them is to place blame on someone for something they have no control over

I bought most of mine at fetishmart tbh fam

path1k · November 20, 2015, 12:32:38 PM

I was watching Hollow Man, Sebastian unbuttoned Kim's blouse while she was sleeping, pull her bra cup down then started groping her boob.
I was only 7 years old when I witnessed it, I instantly developed a fetish and obsession for boobs.

I don't care about booty, it's irrelevant.

Jim · November 20, 2015, 12:42:15 PM

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Risay117 · November 20, 2015, 01:11:29 PM

Nothing really, I remember when I was a kid, my family computer started going to some porn search site. Not really pornhub but alot more tame and more than likely a virus phishing scam.

Hot chicks in lingerlie with a search bar for images and stuff. Funny thing is that the first one was asian chicks.