It's shit, but it's the system we're stuck with for the time being.
Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)メ on November 11, 2015, 05:00:21 PMQuote from: Prime Megaten on November 11, 2015, 04:59:27 PMQuote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)メ on November 11, 2015, 04:57:37 PMQuote from: Verbatim on November 11, 2015, 04:54:10 PMwe all know the moral repercussions of not tippingFuck the moral repercussions, I'm more worried about getting the physical ones.Like a loogie in my pasta or worse...when the first person in a month buys a pint of PBRTheir fault for getting PBR.Same situation when someone gets Bud Lite on draft when Yuengling and Shocktop are available.
Quote from: Prime Megaten on November 11, 2015, 04:59:27 PMQuote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)メ on November 11, 2015, 04:57:37 PMQuote from: Verbatim on November 11, 2015, 04:54:10 PMwe all know the moral repercussions of not tippingFuck the moral repercussions, I'm more worried about getting the physical ones.Like a loogie in my pasta or worse...when the first person in a month buys a pint of PBRTheir fault for getting PBR.
Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)メ on November 11, 2015, 04:57:37 PMQuote from: Verbatim on November 11, 2015, 04:54:10 PMwe all know the moral repercussions of not tippingFuck the moral repercussions, I'm more worried about getting the physical ones.Like a loogie in my pasta or worse...when the first person in a month buys a pint of PBR
Quote from: Verbatim on November 11, 2015, 04:54:10 PMwe all know the moral repercussions of not tippingFuck the moral repercussions, I'm more worried about getting the physical ones.Like a loogie in my pasta or worse...
we all know the moral repercussions of not tipping
Quote from: Prime Megaten on November 11, 2015, 05:01:41 PMQuote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)メ on November 11, 2015, 05:00:21 PMQuote from: Prime Megaten on November 11, 2015, 04:59:27 PMQuote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)メ on November 11, 2015, 04:57:37 PMQuote from: Verbatim on November 11, 2015, 04:54:10 PMwe all know the moral repercussions of not tippingFuck the moral repercussions, I'm more worried about getting the physical ones.Like a loogie in my pasta or worse...when the first person in a month buys a pint of PBRTheir fault for getting PBR.Same situation when someone gets Bud Lite on draft when Yuengling and Shocktop are available.>Yuengling on draft in the southWhat is this and how do I spread word of it's happening?
i would have great difficulty accepting tips if i worked as a waiteri'd probably just either donate it or give it to someone else
Quote from: Verbatim on November 11, 2015, 05:13:25 PMi would have great difficulty accepting tips if i worked as a waiteri'd probably just either donate it or give it to someone elseThere's a big difference between gratuitous tips and tips. There were a lot of days that I made less than minimum wage as a server, and days where I made $15 an hour doing it. The former were much more often than the latter.Point is, tips are legitimately the income of servers. If you give away your tips, you just made $12 on a twelve hour shift.
If you give away your tips, you just made $12 on a twelve hour shift.
Quote from: Prime Megaten on November 11, 2015, 05:17:33 PMQuote from: Verbatim on November 11, 2015, 05:13:25 PMi would have great difficulty accepting tips if i worked as a waiteri'd probably just either donate it or give it to someone elseThere's a big difference between gratuitous tips and tips. There were a lot of days that I made less than minimum wage as a server, and days where I made $15 an hour doing it. The former were much more often than the latter.Point is, tips are legitimately the income of servers. If you give away your tips, you just made $12 on a twelve hour shift.i really don't care
Quote from: Prime Megaten on November 11, 2015, 05:17:33 PMIf you give away your tips, you just made $12 on a twelve hour shift.That's fucking criminal.
Surely some restaurants have integrity and give their employees a decent wage that doesn't rely on tips, right?
I'd opt for the latter, but that would require convincing large chains that it would be necessary or profitable.
Quote from: Prime Megaten on November 11, 2015, 05:24:13 PMI'd opt for the latter, but that would require convincing large chains that it would be necessary or profitable.And how would we go about that?
Boycotts, write-ins, unionizing, hoping Congress closes loopholes for skirting federal minimum wage. None of those are likely.
Quote from: Prime Megaten on November 11, 2015, 05:30:20 PMBoycotts, write-ins, unionizing, hoping Congress closes loopholes for skirting federal minimum wage. None of those are likely.Why are people so fucking retarded.Why is it so difficult to get people to just be decent -- fair prices for fair wages for fair work.
fixed wages incentivize sub-par customer service
Quote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)メ on November 11, 2015, 05:41:28 PMfixed wages incentivize sub-par customer serviceNot really. If they had fixed wages, it doesn't mean they don't get tips anymore. That being said, a job as a waiter with a normal wage plus tips suddenly becomes a very attractive job, which means higher demand for that job.
Quote from: Nuka 'Kal Vargun on November 11, 2015, 05:51:03 PMQuote from: DAS B(⌐■_■)メ on November 11, 2015, 05:41:28 PMfixed wages incentivize sub-par customer serviceNot really. If they had fixed wages, it doesn't mean they don't get tips anymore. That being said, a job as a waiter with a normal wage plus tips suddenly becomes a very attractive job, which means higher demand for that job.How many people actually tip hairdressers?
When you live in a city area
It's a shit system, but not agreeing with it doesn't change the fact that those people are making like $3/hr without it.
If you can't afford to tip in the US then you can't afford to eat out. Until the minimum wage for service jobs is raised or tip restaurants start following the lead of the no tip ones then you should continue to tip. It's shit, but it's the system we're stuck with for the time being.
If you can't afford to tip in the US then you can't afford to eat out.