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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Yo Deci, stop trying to validate yourself to people who unironicly thing SAO and Eromanga Sensei are quality entertainment.
i've never met anyone who likes SAO
You are a lucky man.


 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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Who cares if they're condescending? They're not worth the time, any other normal person will just say "ok" if you tell them you don't like anime.
in all my years on the internet, this has honestly never happened once

this just isn't how anime fans behave—they can't accept that someone hates anime
Why do you care?
why shouldn't i
I'm asking you why you care.
because i really hate it when people don't listen to me and take what i say seriously

there's also no reason why i shouldn't care

not caring hasn't gotten me anywhere good in life

not caring is for retards
Why should those people care what you think?
because i'm the fucking master


 
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it's not about them caring what i think

it's about getting them to say "okay verb, fine, i was wrong, it's perfectly possible to hate anime"

that's all i want to see

but if they say it's "fine" to hate anime, i'm just gonna sperg out

because it's not """fine""" and it's not """okay"""—it's wonderful

it is the correct viewpoint
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Not entirely sure if this was asked before, but what do you feel is a specific reason you dislike anime in general?


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
it's okay verb, it's perfectly fine to hate anime


 
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Not entirely sure if this was asked before, but what do you feel is a specific reason you dislike anime in general?
I don't think I could give you just one specific reason, but perhaps I could try to give you one relatively broad reason instead.

I think it comes down to the fact that I have a severe, visceral contempt for Japanese culture—or at least, the exaggerated elements that seem to pervade all of their media.

I hate everything from the way characters interact with each other, to how they're illustrated, to how every scene is animated and played out, all the way down to the tropes, themes, and common threads that every single show seems to share, and there's just something about it all that gives me a horrid taste in my mouth and leaves me utterly repulsed, no matter how innocent or bubbly it is (in fact, the innocence and bubbliness often makes it worse)—to the point where I almost have a kneejerk reaction of sheer disgust whenever I see anything remotely anime-esque.

To get a little more specific, by far one of my least favorite aspects of anime is just the male chauvinism and all the insulting portrayals of women that are SO ever-present in almost every single series that I try. And I've heard all the explanations for it already. I still find it unacceptable, and I think anime fans should be fucking embarrassed that one of their favorite mediums has such a lax view of what's an acceptable and fair representation of a human female.

There honestly shouldn't be any female anime fans, because if I were a woman watching your average anime, I don't think I'd be able to handle it. And I don't understand how they do. Objectifying and making a complete mockery of the female form solely for the masturbatory pleasure of the hormonal teenage boys in your audience is an affront to anything I'd consider intelligent or worthy of praise.

It also pisses me off how nearly every single show uses the same cookie-cutter artstyle, with some very minor alterations in between. It takes away whatever individuality or personality the show may have had before, and makes every show look like they were all made carelessly in a factory (oh wait, they pretty much are).

There's also a sense of me having a distaste for TV shows as a concept in general. I prefer movies, because you can watch the entire thing in one go, and you get all the information you need in about two hours. No cliffhangers, no filler. Maybe you noticed that I tend to rate films higher than I do shows—that's not on purpose; it just so happens that film is much better suited for storytelling than a series of episodes is. In my opinion, at least. TV shows tend to promote a lot of toxic and cancerous industry practices, and I'm sure even anime fans are well aware of those.

But yeah, I think the bottom line is culture. I hate Japanese culture, and I hate any of the tropes related to it.
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Think of the ugliest artstyle you've ever seen. Ugly in a bad way.

Now think of a culture that makes cartoons primarily based around that artstyle, with minor alterations here and there.

Now make all the characters insufferable. Make it so every show recycles the same tropes over and over again, and makes an effort to insult you as a human being every step of the way (fans of this medium call it "fanservice").

Make it so sometimes, the show attempts to go all "deep" and explore some mature, philosophical themes (while still doing all of the above), but make sure it's just a facade. It's not actually deep at all, and only barely scratches the surface—nonetheless, people still claim it to be highly intelligent, and anyone who doesn't like it just "doesn't get it," despite the fact that there's absolutely nothing to get, and it's all just a circlejerk of nothing and bullshit.

Does that sound like a medium you want to dive into?

That's what anime is to me.
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Just wondering, if you were to watch an anime that in one episode contains all the things that you hate, would you immediately drop the show or continue on to see if it gets better or not?


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Just wondering, if you were to watch an anime that in one episode contains all the things that you hate, would you immediately drop the show or continue on to see if it gets better or not?
imo he'd probably continue just to see if he can find new things to hate about anime


 
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Just wondering, if you were to watch an anime that in one episode contains all the things that you hate, would you immediately drop the show or continue on to see if it gets better or not?
I've dropped several shows in less than three for that, yeah.

There's virtually no chance of a show like that getting "better," because the first few episodes are typically there to establish what the show is all about. And if the show is all about nothing but the things I hate the most, there's pretty much no point in wasting my time.

There are rare cases, like in TTGL, where I'm actually more likely to complete the show—not because I think it's gonna get better, but because it's such a mind-bending spectacle of sadness, that I simply can't look away. One day I'll write up a big long rant on why I hate that particular show so much.

To my understanding, that's how most anime fans do it anyway—they go by the three episode rule, or something. If they aren't interested in three episodes, they just drop the show. That's considered normal, apparently.

That's another thing I don't like about anime. It's so fucking disposable, you're ENCOURAGED to drop shows that you dislike instead of powering through it. If you told me that you stopped watching a movie twenty minutes into it, or a Western television show a few episodes in, and you told me it "sucked," I would tell you that you're an idiot who's not allowed to have an opinion, because you didn't watch the entire thing.

But in the anime world, it's perfectly acceptable to do shit like that. I don't understand why, but if it gives me a viable excuse not to sit through hours and hours of anime just to find something I despise, I guess I'll take it.
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Just wondering, if you were to watch an anime that in one episode contains all the things that you hate, would you immediately drop the show or continue on to see if it gets better or not?
imo he'd probably continue just to see if he can find new things to hate about anime
Well, if there's one thing I do like about anime, it's the wide diversity of genre that it offers.

Western cartoons, despite boasting a rainbowed menagerie of different artstyles, are fairly limited in terms of genre—you have children's comedy, and you have adult comedy. Every once in awhile, we're blessed with a show like Avatar, Teen Titans, or Gargoyles that breaks that mold a little bit. Disney is the sole bastion of diversity in all of Western animation, and despite being the greatest animation studio of all time, having more than one (because Dreamworks and Blue Sky kinda suck) would be stellar, because Disney films—especially lately—can be very hit-or-miss.

Meanwhile, Japanese animation has nothing to worry about when it comes to that. That's the best thing about anime.
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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Just wondering, if you were to watch an anime that in one episode contains all the things that you hate, would you immediately drop the show or continue on to see if it gets better or not?
imo he'd probably continue just to see if he can find new things to hate about anime
Well, if there's one thing I do like about anime, it's the wide diversity of genre that it offers.

Western cartoons, despite boasting a rainbowed menagerie of different artstyles, are fairly limited in terms of genre—you have children's comedy, and you have adult comedy. Every once in awhile, we're blessed with a show like Avatar, Teen Titans, or Gargoyles that breaks that mold a little bit. Disney is the sole bastion of diversity in all of Western animation, and despite being the greatest animation studio of all time, having more than one (because Dreamworks and Blue Sky kinda suck) would be stellar, because Disney films—especially lately—can be very hit-or-miss.

Meanwhile, Japanese animation has nothing to worry about when it comes to that. That's the best thing about anime.
I wasn't ragging on you by saying that just a little joke. 99% of anime is hot garbage, .7% is just good or different enough to be worth a watch, and the last .3% is so beyond the standards of the industry that calling it "anime" is a bit of an insult. The only reason I enjoy an anime of any sort nowadays is for spectacle (Jojo is just odd, but reasonably so) or the occasional SoL that I can relax to. It's not high-brow media by any means, but sometimes something comes along that's worth watching once.


 
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I wasn't ragging on you by saying that just a little joke. 99% of anime is hot garbage, .7% is just good or different enough to be worth a watch, and the last .3% is so beyond the standards of the industry that calling it "anime" is a bit of an insult. The only reason I enjoy an anime of any sort nowadays is for spectacle (Jojo is just odd, but reasonably so) or the occasional SoL that I can relax to. It's not high-brow media by any means, but sometimes something comes along that's worth watching once.
when you watched hxh, which one was it


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99% of anime is hot garbage, .7% is just good or different enough to be worth a watch, and the last .3% is so beyond the standards of the industry that calling it "anime" is a bit of an insult.

I actually agree with this to an extent, and I think it extends to most media TBH. Anime is can be especialy bad though since so fucking much of it is the same "Fighting with Superpowers for 9 Billion episodes (8.5 billion of which are filler)" or "DudeTitsLOL" or more recently "Trapped in a fantasy world"
  Funny thing is when I say this to weebs I know they  have gotten mad and called me everything from a weaboo to a racist.


 
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It definitely extends to all media, but I've never been more hard-pressed to find a single thing that I even remotely enjoy than I have been with Japanese animation. It's kind of fucking ridiculous.


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By the way verb here's to save you some time:
Go on MAL, look for a show labeled Echi and Harem, preferably one with the least episodes or run-time/

Once you're done with it, congrats, you have watched the entire fucking genre, no need to bother with any more. They are all literaly the exact same show.

As a matter of fact, bump Sword Art up on your list and get that over with and you'll be done with it, with slightly less fanservice than you would have to endure otherwise.
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Tfw verb actually has a point.

Anime is garbage and you all should feel bad.


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
I wasn't ragging on you by saying that just a little joke. 99% of anime is hot garbage, .7% is just good or different enough to be worth a watch, and the last .3% is so beyond the standards of the industry that calling it "anime" is a bit of an insult. The only reason I enjoy an anime of any sort nowadays is for spectacle (Jojo is just odd, but reasonably so) or the occasional SoL that I can relax to. It's not high-brow media by any means, but sometimes something comes along that's worth watching once.
when you watched hxh, which one was it
2011


 
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I wasn't ragging on you by saying that just a little joke. 99% of anime is hot garbage, .7% is just good or different enough to be worth a watch, and the last .3% is so beyond the standards of the industry that calling it "anime" is a bit of an insult. The only reason I enjoy an anime of any sort nowadays is for spectacle (Jojo is just odd, but reasonably so) or the occasional SoL that I can relax to. It's not high-brow media by any means, but sometimes something comes along that's worth watching once.
when you watched hxh, which one was it
2011
any particular reason, or is it just supposed to be better


 
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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
I wasn't ragging on you by saying that just a little joke. 99% of anime is hot garbage, .7% is just good or different enough to be worth a watch, and the last .3% is so beyond the standards of the industry that calling it "anime" is a bit of an insult. The only reason I enjoy an anime of any sort nowadays is for spectacle (Jojo is just odd, but reasonably so) or the occasional SoL that I can relax to. It's not high-brow media by any means, but sometimes something comes along that's worth watching once.
when you watched hxh, which one was it
2011
any particular reason, or is it just supposed to be better
More complete. I trend the past few years has been more accurate adaptations of manga, so you get less filler and improved subplots. If you do end up liking it (it's on the better end tbh), it has more adapted.

Something like 15 years between adaptations, but the newer one adapts like two more arcs. Hiatus x Hiatus strikes again.


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I routinely kill myself because I watch anime.


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I routinely kill myself because I watch anime.

I tried that once. Never doing that shit again. I almost died.


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I routinely kill myself because I watch anime.

I tried that once. Never doing that shit again. I almost died.

Must ov 'urt wut?


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Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet was interesting, too. Good dub, and not a half bad take on some cliche story elements. I don't recommend reading plot summaries. The first episode is necessary for the plot and appears as a generic mecha story, but is not representative of the rest of the series.

Saw it on Netflix, so it may still be there.
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make sure you watch fullmetal alc brotherhood, and not 2003


 
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make sure you watch fullmetal alc brotherhood, and not 2003
Will do, though it's sort of confusing why.


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make sure you watch fullmetal alc brotherhood, and not 2003
Will do, though it's sort of confusing why.
The manga was like only half way written when the 2003 adaption went on, so they had to wing it from there. I'm probably in the minority for those that liked the 2003 more because the tone seemed darker overall, even though it got pretty wonky towards the end.
So for Brotherhood, they just completely started over from scratch.