Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease

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Probably because transition is pretty effective and has high satisfaction.

Why the fuck is the suicide rate so high for transgender people then
cuz it's so stupid hard to get treatment?

No I'm talking insanely high
Like one of the highest suicide rate in human history


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It doesn't matter which one holds more merit
So the amount of which something has a more factual and empirically verified basis is irrelevant to you?
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Choosing to value emotion over fact is harmful to society
The fact is that mental health is about improving overall emotional well-being as long as it coincides with a sustainable model and doesn't interfere with health in other areas. The fact is that transition is a well documented procedure for a well documented condition. The fact is that trans people are worse off right now if they don't try to transition. The freedom you take to declare some things as being irrational or as not being valid CUZ DUR IT ALLIGNS WIT THE DELUSIONAL IDEALS rather than aligning with your own is really irritating. I just posited something that serves to differentiate between gender dysphoria and otherkin, but you choose to just ignore it, because SLIPPERY SLOPES YO.

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Why the fuck is the suicide rate so high for transgender people then
Because it isn't perfect and still needs a lot of improvement. Passability is going to drastcally effect results as people on the negative end of that spectrum are going to experience a lot of negative social repercussions that can result in them losing swathes of their social network.

Don't act like suicide rates with transition or those who do not transition are the same. I've only seen citations on pre and post-op SRS.
Let's not neglect to mention that people who choose not to transition also probably choose not to identify as trans, and can go uncounted if they inevitably kill themselves from depression.

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It is my subjective truth that gender roles are meaningless
Except I don't force it on anyone
I've said many times in this thread that you don't have to care whether I think being transgender is good or not

Just don't, for the millionth time, force your ideals on society
You were just trying to use your subjective truth as a means to say no one should care about gender in a social context.


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So the amount of which something has a more factual and empirically verified basis is irrelevant to you?

Not when you're forcing it on others

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The fact is that mental health is about improving overall emotional well-being as long as it coincides with a sustainable model and doesn't interfere with health in other areas. The fact is that transition is a well documented procedure for a well documented condition. The fact is that trans people are worse off right now if they don't try to transition.

What the fuck are you talking about
Data is still inadequate and inconsistent at best

I won't pretend that depression rate does drop after transition but it's still incredibly high
So to leave it there is not good enough
They are still suffering 

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Because it isn't perfect and still needs a lot of improvement. Passability is going to drastcally effect results as people on the negative end of that spectrum are going to experience a lot of negative social repercussions that can result in them losing swathes of their social network.

Except the suicide rate is way too fucking high to pin just on social pressure

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Don't act like suicide rates with transition or those who do not transition are the same. I've only seen citations on pre and post-op SRS.
Let's not neglect to mention that people who choose not to transition also probably choose not to identify as trans, and can go uncounted if they inevitably kill themselves from depression.

Again
Data is still short
The fact still remains that the suicide rate is unbelievably high
I haven't found many papers on hormone treatment but one stated the suicide rate went from 43% to 39%
Which is still high as fuck

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You were just trying to use your subjective truth as a means to say no one should care about gender in a social context.

Yeah
Doesn't mean anyone has to listen to me


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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
the chromosome argument is a tired and worn out argument that just doesn't work

You only like to frame it like that because you don't like arguing against it

Yeah the one thing that determines sex is irrelevant to a discussion about it
Nice one
because genetic variations with chromosomes doesn't exist, sure
http://www.isna.org/faq/what_is_intersex


 
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