Transgenderism Is A Mental Disease

 
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Even if they existed suppression drugs always usually have a track record of being shady as fuck anyway.


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Have you ever taken the moment to analyze the difference between an untreated schizoids ability to function in society compared to a "untreated" (transitioned) trans person?

I mean I'd hope for someone as pathologically obsessed as you, that thought has crossed your mind.

Unless of course your definition of "ability to function in society" includes procreative sex, in which case you're entering full retard.

Clarify


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Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. Transgenderism is a treatment. Not that hard to distinguish the two. If you have a problem with transgenderism, at least call it malpractice or something that would make sense.

Ok sure
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness that we are normalizing
What do you mean by normalizing?

I mean that people now see it as normal and not a fucking mental disease
Uh pretty sure everyone sees gender dysphoria as a mental illness. What's the issue?

Except they don't
You will be skinned alive if you dare to say that transgender people aren't normal


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We should look into viable treatments and destroy this thought that it is something that is completely normal
No one is saying it's normal. It's obviously a malfunction that happens at birth. Ignoring the issue until this magical cure that will never exist comes along and makes everything right is going to do any good. It's not like accepting trans people somehow encourages it. And transphobia is obviously a big problem that they face which just makes their life harder. There's no harm that can rationally be attributed to encouraging an accepting society.

I never said we shouldn't accept them
I just say we should acknowledge that it's a mental disease

Even if you don't want to acknowledge that then fine
But what I'm against is the necessity for fictionalized thinking that the trans community is imposing on society


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But for the millionth time, you cannot bring your subjective truth to society and force them to accept you
It is immoral and hurts social health
You and everyone with your sick mentality are all going to die and be grandfathered out of existence within the next century.

How does that make you feel?

It's pretty scary to be honest

Scary that closed minded bigots like you who think they're tolerant will be the ones leading society soon


 
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It's pretty scary to be honest

Scary that closed minded bigots like you who think they're tolerant will be the ones leading society soon
Put that mirror down.


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Except they don't
You will be skinned alive if you dare to say that transgender people aren't normal
If you're getting skinned alive it's because you're saying something else retarded. No shit, most people aren't transgender. It's not normal to be gender dysphoric or to have to undergo transgenderism (transgenderism is normal for gender dysphoric people but you get the point).

What's important is that in social contexts they should be TREATED like normal people.


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Does anyone have any evidence of there being a suppression of research into dysphoria-nullifying drugs? i.e. something that would "make the feelings go away" in contrast with transgenderism. i still don't understand why people say "we should be researching this and clearly something would be found" if they're not experts in the research area and if they haven't already checked to see what has been done

ironically, i remember reading about a schizophrenic and gender dysphoric patient whose dysphoria was dispelled by his schizophrenia drugs but i can't find the research article anymore. . . .

It doesn't take a genius to figure out that research will no longer continue if society no longer considers it a mental illness

Once you stop classifying something as a mental disease, you stop trying to cure it
It's first grade logic


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It's pretty scary to be honest

Scary that closed minded bigots like you who think they're tolerant will be the ones leading society soon
Put that mirror down.

Good comeback


 
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Good comeback
I'm a closed-minded bigot because I have an open mind and I'm overtly un-bigoted towards people with gender dysphoria.

Great logic.


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Except they don't
You will be skinned alive if you dare to say that transgender people aren't normal
If you're getting skinned alive it's because you're saying something else retarded. No shit, most people aren't transgender. It's not normal to be gender dysphoric or to have to undergo transgenderism (transgenderism is normal for gender dysphoric people but you get the point).

What's important is that in social contexts they should be TREATED like normal people.

No one is saying they shouldn't

But try telling a trans person that they have a mental disease
Especially with a crowd around

See what happens then


 
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But try telling a trans person that they have a mental disease
Especially with a crowd around

See what happens then
Try telling a fat person that they're fat in public--especially on a college campus. See what happens.

It's generally rude to point out and state the obvious about people, you socially autistic cunt.

Of COURSE you'd get fucking shit on.


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That's just socially . . . stupid, in my opinion. You wouldn't go up to a schizophrenic person, a bipolar person, or a depressed person and say "you have a mental disease!" and point at them or something. Why would you call a trans person out?


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Good comeback
I'm a closed-minded bigot because I have an open mind and I'm overtly un-bigoted towards people with gender dysphoria.

Great logic.

How do you have a open mind?
You support one cause but lash out against anyone who opposes that cause
That's the definition of closed mindedness
 
It doesn't matter that the cause is "socially progressive"
It's still closed mindedness in the highest order


 
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That's the definition of closed mindedness
No, it isn't. The definition of closed-minded is unable to consider different ideas or opinions.

I HAVE considered your position, concluded it was genuinely one of the most fucktarded pieces of shit I've ever laid my eyes on, and spat it the fuck out.
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It doesn't matter that the cause is "socially progressive"
It's still closed mindedness in the highest order
"Maybe if I slap 'in the highest order' in this post, it'll make me sound more intelligent and right"


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That's just socially . . . stupid, in my opinion. You wouldn't go up to a schizophrenic person, a bipolar person, or a depressed person and say "you have a mental disease!" and point at them or something. Why would you call a trans person out?

Try telling a fat person that they're fat in public--especially on a college campus. See what happens.

It's generally rude to point out and state the obvious about people, you socially autistic cunt.

Of COURSE you'd get fucking shit on.

You're right that was a bad example
Let me rephrase

If you have a discussion about it and call it a mental illness, you will be viciously attacked

It doesn't matter how logical or factual your arguments are
Speaking out against the victimized group will result in being labeled as a hateful bigot
Even if you have no hateful intentions at all


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No, it isn't. The definition of closed-minded is unable to consider different ideas or opinions.

I HAVE considered your position, concluded it was genuinely one of the most fucktarded pieces of shit I've ever laid my eyes on, and spat it the fuck out.

Not only that but you have attacked the other side and labeled them things they are not
Which is exactly what you keep saying people shouldn't do to transgenders

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"Maybe if I slap 'in the highest order' in this post, it'll make me sound more intelligent and right"

He attacked my word choice!
My point is rendered moot!


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aight i've got a couple transgender people here that i know who i believe will put your fears to rest and acknowledge that gender dypshoria is a mental illness (even if transgenderism isn't). maybe we can see about getting their input. any other trans individuals want to comment? would be neat


 
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If you have a discussion about it and call it a mental illness, you will be viciously attacked
No, you won't.

You'll only get viciously attacked, like you are now, when you start saying cunt-tarded shit like, "DON'T IMPOSE YOUR BELIEFS ON MUH SUHSYUHTEE!!!"

or "WE NEED TO FIND A REAL CURE!!!!"

That's when people will start lashing out. Because you're being a fucking retard.
Last Edit: March 18, 2016, 11:05:08 PM by Verbatim


 
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Not only that but you have attacked the other side and labeled them things they are not
Which is exactly what you keep saying people shouldn't do to transgenders
No idea what the fuck you're even saying now.


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aight i've got a couple transgender people here that i know who i believe will put your fears to rest and acknowledge that gender dypshoria is a mental illness (even if transgenderism isn't). maybe we can see about getting their input. any other trans individuals want to comment? would be neat

So?
Just because a few people will admit it doesn't mean the whole community shares their view


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If you have a discussion about it and call it a mental illness, you will be viciously attacked
No, you won't.

You'll only get viciously attacked, like you are now, when you start saying cunt-tarded shit like, "DON'T IMPOSE YOUR BELIEFS ON MUH SUHSYUHTEE!!!"

or "WE NEED TO FIND A REAL CURE!!!!"

That's when people will start lashing out. Because you're being a fucking retard.

Yeah you really will

Right because wanting to prevent social harm is totally crossing the line


 
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Right because wanting to prevent social harm is totally crossing the line
There is no "social harm," whatever the fuck that even is.

It sounds like you're just regurgitating retarded shit from your daddy's mouth now.


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Not only that but you have attacked the other side and labeled them things they are not
Which is exactly what you keep saying people shouldn't do to transgenders
No idea what the fuck you're even saying now.

What do you want for transgender people?
You want people to stop attacking them and labeling them as abnormal right?

Yet that's exactly what you do to people who disagree with them


 
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Yet that's exactly what you do to people who disagree with them
Because you deserve it, for being an idiot.

Trans people don't, because they haven't done anything wrong by being trans.


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YOU FUCKING WHITE MALE


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Right because wanting to prevent social harm is totally crossing the line
There is no "social harm," whatever the fuck that even is.

Yes it really is

You are teaching kids that mental illness is acceptable and there is nothing wrong with it
You are flaunting your subjective truth as objective
If society is going to value how someone feels over how something actually is, it'll be a mess

What is your basis for accepting transgenders?
Everybody has their own self definition and we should respect that right?
Well what happens when people say that they identify as animals and inanimate objects?
Or when they demand to live in the White House because "they feel it deep in their heart"

Take your logic to any logical extreme and it falls apart immediately 


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Yet that's exactly what you do to people who disagree with them
Because you deserve it, for being an idiot.

Trans people don't, because they haven't done anything wrong by being trans.

Who gets to decide who deserves what

Why does your position hold more merit than mine?


 
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You are teaching kids that mental illness is acceptable and there is nothing wrong with it
Oh for fuck's sake. And you wonder why people get so fucking pissed.

NO ONE IS SAYING MENTAL ILLNESS IS "ACCEPTABLE"

THE TREATMENT IS ACCEPTABLE

BECAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER TREATMENT

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What is your basis for accepting transgenders?
Me being a good person who is considerate of other people's feelings, desires, and personal comforts.

If someone feels that they are a woman, who am I to say that they're not?
If someone WANTS to be a woman, who am I to say that they shouldn't?

If you don't accept them, you're not better than a racist or a sexist, and you should be killed.


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Oh for fuck's sake. And you wonder why people get so fucking pissed.

NO ONE IS SAYING MENTAL ILLNESS IS "ACCEPTABLE"

THE TREATMENT IS ACCEPTABLE

BECAUSE THERE IS NO OTHER TREATMENT

You are saying mental illness is acceptable by silencing those who disagree with you
I don't understand how
the best cure for gender dysphoria is acceptance, and allowing people to live their lives however they wish

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Me being a good person who is considerate of other people's feelings, desires, and personal comforts.

If someone feels that they are a woman, who am I to say that they're not?
If someone WANTS to be a woman, who am I to say that they shouldn't?

You are no one to say that they shouldn't
Just as I am no one to say they shouldn't
So if you don't want to listen to me then fine

But do not teach something completely factually untrue just because it's convenient for your mental illness

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If you don't accept them, you're not better than a racist or a sexist, and you should be killed.

Please tell me objectively how this is different from me wanting all transgenders to be killed