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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Just got these puppies in the mail, couldn't find good reviews that compared them with each other plus everyone seems to have different opinions and I don't know if I prefer finger vs thumb balls so I'm gonna try em out and return the ones I don't like so much. Will report back with my opinions in a few days.

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Elecom Huge
Elecom EX-G




Anyone here have experience with trackballs? Using the Deft Pro right now and wow it's sensitive. Had to crank the sensitivity almost all the way down.


 
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the continued manufacture of these things beyond the year 1997 just kinda disgusts me mgl


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
the continued manufacture of these things beyond the year 1997 just kinda disgusts me mgl
y tho


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i have probably have over 1000 hours on trackball mice on a variety of screen sizes, pixel densities, and a lot of different applications

from my experience, they are inferior to modern wireless mice on a good size mouse pad, especially as screen real estate increases

trackball mice shine in situations where a user may be wearing gloves and does not have access to a desk

thumb-controlled trackball mice are... just terrible

seriously i haven’t seen a reason to use one because the ball is smaller, meaning less control and you’re kind of forcing one digit to do all of the heavy-lifting

the plain jane logi trackman can be had for $25 and hands down it’s my fav because they are cheap, simple, never fail, barely need cleaning (which takes 10 secs to do), and they are ambi

it’s no wonder why so many industrial machines that rely on HID come with this trackball; it just works

another issue i have with trackball mice is they rely on mouse acceleration/enhanced pointer precision software too much, which often leads to over-shooting GUI elements

a simple, lightweight wireless mouse with zero mouse acceleration is way easier to predict and control, as a user can use their arm for large movements, their wrist for small movements, and their finger tips for extremely precise movements

trackballs cannot take advantage of this level of granularity and fatigue the tendons of your fingers

a nice and simple luxury of trackball mice, however, is when you’re just trying to use a small screen and maybe one or two applications, primarily focusing on your keyboard to grind out a task

to me, personally, an apple trackpad is better as you can still use a little arm movement, some wrist movement, and literally any finger to do any function without making gross adjustments

TLDRRII

trackball mice; really good in a factory or for programming/very heavy keyboard use

trackpad less fatiguing and more precise

mouse best for a lot of screen real estate, endurance, extreme precision

i can talk more about this but having all three HIDs is worth it, plus they look sick


 
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I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
man I hate trackpads


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man I hate trackpads
have you ever used those big glass ones that apple sells tho?

they’re next level


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
man I hate trackpads
have you ever used those big glass ones that apple sells tho?

they’re next level
My only real experience with apple products was iMacs at high school/college.
Also I'm getting used to the Deft Pro surprisingly quickly, it's actually pretty comfy.


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man I hate trackpads
have you ever used those big glass ones that apple sells tho?

they’re next level
My only real experience with apple products was iMacs at high school/college.
Also I'm getting used to the Deft Pro surprisingly quickly, it's actually pretty comfy.
never used that model before but it looks pretty good
Last Edit: November 10, 2020, 07:36:27 PM by nͫiͤcͫeͤ


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
man I hate trackpads
have you ever used those big glass ones that apple sells tho?

they’re next level
My only real experience with apple products was iMacs at high school/college.
Also I'm getting used to the Deft Pro surprisingly quickly, it's actually pretty comfy.
never used used that model before but it looks pretty good
It's a bit weird at first but the button placements are actually pretty nice. I'm gonna have to give a few days trying out the other two but I'm already kinda sold on this one.


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This is the Trackball mouse I have been using for about 15 years now. Whenever one stops working or is starting to fail, I buy the same exact model. No deviations whatsoever. When I had a laptop, one of the USB ports always had the trackball inserted. Thumb models are far too foreign to me, I'd rather use a standard mouse type.


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oh yeah also install Vimium lol


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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
oh yeah also install Vimium lol
I'm not comfortable enough with Vim yet to have all the keybinds memorized but I'm working on it so I bookmarked it. Still kind of a noob tbh but it'll be cool to reach that point where I can fly around with just the keyboard.

Managed to figure out how to bind freescrolling to the Fn3 key with xinput, but I'm apparently too retarded to get my xbindkeys config for the other two buttons to work. Farting out a bad access error when I do xbindkeys -n -v
...I'll figure it out eventually, I keep getting sidetracked with the other two projects I'm working on.

Do you actually game on PC with a track ball?
Well I haven't tried competitive/first person shooters yet but I play Warframe pretty comfortably.


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           hardcore will never die
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oh yeah also install Vimium lol
I'm not comfortable enough with Vim yet to have all the keybinds memorized but I'm working on it so I bookmarked it. Still kind of a noob tbh but it'll be cool to reach that point where I can fly around with just the keyboard.

Managed to figure out how to bind freescrolling to the Fn3 key with xinput, but I'm apparently too retarded to get my xbindkeys config for the other two buttons to work. Farting out a bad access error when I do xbindkeys -n -v
...I'll figure it out eventually, I keep getting sidetracked with the other two projects I'm working on.

Do you actually game on PC with a track ball?
Well I haven't tried competitive/first person shooters yet but I play Warframe pretty comfortably.
no excuses install Vimium

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I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
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If you bend your mind towards the challenge, the skill will follow in your hands
oh yeah also install Vimium lol
I'm not comfortable enough with Vim yet to have all the keybinds memorized but I'm working on it so I bookmarked it. Still kind of a noob tbh but it'll be cool to reach that point where I can fly around with just the keyboard.

Managed to figure out how to bind freescrolling to the Fn3 key with xinput, but I'm apparently too retarded to get my xbindkeys config for the other two buttons to work. Farting out a bad access error when I do xbindkeys -n -v
...I'll figure it out eventually, I keep getting sidetracked with the other two projects I'm working on.

Do you actually game on PC with a track ball?
Well I haven't tried competitive/first person shooters yet but I play Warframe pretty comfortably.
no excuses install Vimium

press ? at any time for the commands
There are a lot of those: Tridactyl, Vim Vixen, QuteBrowser...


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: ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ )
: ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ ) : ส็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็็ )
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oh yeah also install Vimium lol
I'm not comfortable enough with Vim yet to have all the keybinds memorized but I'm working on it so I bookmarked it. Still kind of a noob tbh but it'll be cool to reach that point where I can fly around with just the keyboard.

Managed to figure out how to bind freescrolling to the Fn3 key with xinput, but I'm apparently too retarded to get my xbindkeys config for the other two buttons to work. Farting out a bad access error when I do xbindkeys -n -v
...I'll figure it out eventually, I keep getting sidetracked with the other two projects I'm working on.

Do you actually game on PC with a track ball?
Well I haven't tried competitive/first person shooters yet but I play Warframe pretty comfortably.
no excuses install Vimium

press ? at any time for the commands
There are a lot of those: Tridactyl, Vim Vixen, QuteBrowser...
i haven’t tried Qute but it looks pretty slick