i know, i know
>veganism
>inmendham
>50 minutes

Look, I don't even care. I just have to share this.

There are many "best parts", but here's one of the best parts:

"You don't deserve the privileges of civilization, the rights that you gain access to, the benefits, if you're going to accept exploitation and torture as a way of extracting those goodies from the universe."

I think Verby is going soft

Why do vegans always look so frail.

*sips tea*

Quote from: DAS "كافر" B00T on May 23, 2015, 09:19:42 PM

I made it two minutes. What's his pont?

Oh. I probably should've explained what the fuck I was posting, huh.

you know that veganism video i posted in serious?
this annoying atheist vlogger MrRepzion (who has quite a large following) made a shitty response video to it

and this is a response video to that video

what i love about it is that it compacts every single argument vegans have to deal with whenever they argue the subject with people, and shreds them all apart beautifully

You say copacts, but it's like, an hour long.
Mang, I ain't got time for thst.

Veganism = moral
Non-veganism = immoral

I'd choose to be immoral any day.

It tastes so good.

*sips tea*

Veganism = moral
Non-veganism = immoral

I'd choose to be immoral any day.

at least you're honest?

i mean, that's really such a terrible, terrible thing to say, but whatever
i don't exactly know what to say to someone who is proud of their own lack of scruples

I don't mean to sound like a fedora-tipper here, but people talk about morality like it's the one true guideline to follow.

That's why I choose not to use words like "morality".

When, in reality, all that matters is the self. Who cares about animals suffering as long as you're not? Your existence is all there is, just like my existence is all there is.

Solipsism is one of the dumbest philosophies ever. I certainly can't prove that wrong, but what an intellectual dead-end you're imposing on yourself there.

No, if I see someone in pain, the right thing to do would be to help that person out. Being a selfish cunt is... probably the most evil idea, ever.

I would argue that the "self" is the BOTTOM priority.

All other sentient life.
Literal bags of shit.
The self.

That's the order.

Quote from: SecondClass on May 23, 2015, 09:33:27 PM

I don't mean to sound like a fedora-tipper here, but people talk about morality like it's the one true guideline to follow.

That's why I choose not to use words like "morality".

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When, in reality, all that matters is the self. Who cares about animals suffering as long as you're not? Your existence is all there is, just like my existence is all there is.

Solipsism is one of the dumbest philosophies ever. I certainly can't prove that wrong, but what an intellectual dead-end you're imposing on yourself there.

No, if I see someone in pain, the right thing to do would be to help that person out. Being a selfish cunt is... probably the most evil idea, ever.

Not talking about solipsism. I wouldn't have included the "your existence is all there is" if I was, because your existence would be a lie in that school of thought.

I'm talking about the simple fact that, to you, and to me, our respective existences all are there is. Once you die, it's over. Your world, all you know, is gone. So your life is your only priority, just as mine is my only priority. Of course it's selfish, I'm not arguing with that. But that's not an objectively "bad" thing.

Not talking about solipsism. I wouldn't have included the "your existence is all there is" if I was, because your existence would be a lie in that school of thought.

It's still solipsistic, just because you think you're all that matters in your perception. And that's just absolute garbage.

I'm talking about the simple fact that, to you, and to me, our respective existences all are there is. Once you die, it's over. Your world, all you know, is gone. So your life is your only priority, just as mine is my only priority. Of course it's selfish, I'm not arguing with that. But that's not an objectively "bad" thing.

...Yeah, it is.

If you see a person stuck under a firetruck, your immediate rational response should be, "I'm going to help her out." Even if you have inhibitions about it, like, "Oh, but I might put myself in danger..." You can have those inhibitions, but the rational decision to make is, yeah, to help her get out from under the truck.

If you think to yourself, "Doesn't matter; it's not happening to me," you're a cunt.
And you probably deserve to get stuck under a truck.

Solipsism is when you believe that your consciousness is all that exists. Putting your existence over everything else isn't solipsism, it's being rational.

I took it back and called it solipsistic, instead. Because it's solipsistic. Just like you may not be an idiot, but you can be idiotic.

And I guess I'm a cunt, then, lol

Yeah! You absolutely are!

Explain to me how you're NOT a selfish cunt?... Honestly. I'm not even trying to be insulting.
I guarantee that 99% of people would call you an asshole for what you're saying.

Explain to me how you're NOT a selfish cunt?... Honestly. I'm not even trying to be insulting.

Uh, why would I? I just admitted I am. That doesn't mean that I'm in the wrong, though.

This guy is a crack addict.

The only thing he smokes is nicotine.

when you die, your whole world is gone. Not even darkness, because darkness is something

therefore, logically, the most important thing for you should be you

not that hard of a train of thought to follow

Apparently, it is, because I still don't get it. Yes, we die, and there's nothing after death, "not even darkness". No duh. Why does that necessitate that we all must live only for ourselves? To me, that only makes me want to live for others even more. The fact that we die makes me want to make life better for everyone. Because we're all "in it together".

He still looks like a crack addict.

Fascinating.