good idea
i don't really care. i don't need to pretend i'm eating meat to cope with being a vegan.
Quote from: gats on August 09, 2016, 05:42:18 PMi don't really care. i don't need to pretend i'm eating meat to cope with being a vegan.sameonce you've stopped eating something for so long, you begin to realize how gross it really isi can't even think about the taste of chicken anymore without retching, and it used to be my favorite foodbut whatever gets people to stop eating the real stuff, i suppose--but then again, if you think about it, perhaps synthetic meat analogues would just create even more demand for "real" meat down the line when veganism is more widespread
Quote from: Verbatim on August 09, 2016, 05:54:39 PMQuote from: gats on August 09, 2016, 05:42:18 PMi don't really care. i don't need to pretend i'm eating meat to cope with being a vegan.sameonce you've stopped eating something for so long, you begin to realize how gross it really isi can't even think about the taste of chicken anymore without retching, and it used to be my favorite foodbut whatever gets people to stop eating the real stuff, i suppose--but then again, if you think about it, perhaps synthetic meat analogues would just create even more demand for "real" meat down the line when veganism is more widespreadim all for it if it means less animals suffer but if people were not so lazy this would be unnecessary. Eating meat is like an addiction to smoking, users cannot see themselves without
Eating meat is like an addiction to smoking, users cannot see themselves without
You did not just compare eating meat to smoking.
They will most surely lose their business and in terms of livelihood, a farmer and his family is worth more than a group of chickens.
You did not just compare eating meat to smoking. They're nothing alike. And no, people don't refuse artificial meat because they're addicted to real meat, artificial meat isn't widespread enough to be as prevalent as natural meat. Artificial meat isn't practical enough to replace real meat in markets (this is ignoring the other argument that artificial meat isn't even sold in most markets) and wont be for a very long time. You also have to look at the downside of farmers who produce meat. They will most surely lose their business and in terms of livelihood, a farmer and his family is worth more than a group of chickens. Quote from: gats on August 09, 2016, 06:45:12 PMEating meat is like an addiction to smoking, users cannot see themselves without
as somebody balls deep in biochemistry for the past few years, meat actually causes chemical reaction in the brain really similar to other addictive substances such as caffine, sugar, and yes nicotine.
There are a myriad of health benefits to eating meat whereas there is only damage from smoking. I don't see vegans suffer from drug withdrawal like legitimate addicts do. Considering how there isn't widespread claims from vegans on how difficult it was to "quit" eating meat, comparing meat to smoking is just downright fucking silly. You can sit there and give legitimate reasoning like the ethics of the animals, or being able to form a diet with a substitute source of protein and nutrients. However, to say that meat, that has its own health benefits provided how informed and smart you are with how you consume it is the same as something that is only there to damage the body is just objectively wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalpostsyou were talking about addiction, not health benefits
Actually I was criticizing the comparison between smoking and eating meat in general so....
yeah, and eating meat is worse in every way that matters