The human race is obsolete

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Hmmm. I suppose you have a valid point, so your saying our own manufactured reality with time and internet is part of nature?
Yes because we are a part of nature. Technology may be the result of intelligence, but intelligence is the result of sentience and sentience is just another natural phenomena.

The equation never went astray to lead us to this point, this world of technology and organization. Everything happened just as it was conditioned to happen. Nature did as nature does and thus our world was.

If technology is the possible result of intelligence, what if one day humanity becomes so dependent on technology that it fails to be able to function without it? Would you say we are currently heading down that road?


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How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?


Wha? Humanity isn't exempt from nature. Everything we do is 'natural' in that sense.

So the internet is considered natural to you? I'm sorry but the way I see it, eating, shiting, pissing, fucking, and sleeping are what I consider natural.
Yes because it is a product of this universe. It didn't just pop into existence with no external influence. The internet wouldn't exist if nature didn't allow us to exist as a part of it and thus create the internet.

Simply because we have a higher intelligence does not mean we are separate from nature. We still exist and act in this universe according to conditioning, and the internet is just another product of that.

But how is the internet natural exactly? Yes humans are responsible for it's creation, but think of it this way. How is software itself considered natural?

Right now all this here is software. There is no physical media involved. I can't touch the threads with my hands or touch any of the words on screen. I can touch the screen but that doesn't count.
It's natural to me because anything that exists as a part of this system (that being our universe) is a part of nature. You can't touch emotions or ideas either but they're just as natural.

For me, nature isn't any specific part of reality, it IS reality.

Hmmm. I suppose you have a valid point, so your saying our own manufactured reality with time and internet is part of nature?

And, er, sorry Deci, but they're absolutely right when they say humanity's niche is its ability to make tool. It's how we even out (and more so) the physical playing field with other predators.

But think about it. What if we didn't have this ability to create tools? How would you expect the human race to survive let alone adapt?
That's a terrible hypothetical...

How? Think of the possible outcomes. Everything in this universe is dictated by probability. That means there was a chance where humanity could have not adapted or not have been smart enough to have this ability to think ahead of other animals.
then it wouldn't have been humanity as we know it.

The fact remains that humans do have that ability.

Well, I suppose that's true. But what if only ONE human on earth survives. Then what?
he either makes the best of his situation or kills himself due to despair

What if the last human being on earth is female?
change my pronouns

what if the last person on earth is an attack chopper?

An attack chopper is an inanimate object.

Silly human.
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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?
that's an arbitrary distinction and you know it

How so? Elaborate please.
Because our natural advantage is that we are smart enough to use what is around us to our advantage. The fact that what we make is "made by humans" does not take away from the fact that it is the way we evolved to deal with our surroundings.

But everything we made took time. What if we had nothing again? How would we manage to rebuild?
With time.

And do you think with the way this generation is now that would be possible?
Considering every generation has looked at the next generation with contempt, yes.
[Insert that really old quote about the next generation and how they're terrible here]
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

Fuck having kids then.
You are completely missing the point. You were that kid.

If I was that kid I would have grown up into a druge right now.
Being a kid makes a kid grow up to become a druggy? Have you read Catcher in the Rye? You are seriously turning into the main character.

Kill John Lennon.

OT: No I have not.
Yeah, I might consider it if I were you.

Kids aren't innocent and nice like you seem to think you were or they all were. It's part of growing up.

Tell that to my own mother. She says she was the most well behaved kid ever.  ::)
Your mother says she was well behaved or you were? If she's talking about herself, she's full of it. If she's talking about you, she's still full of it, but she at least loves you and thinks of you as her lovely son that does no wrong, which would be good and bad.


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If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?
that's an arbitrary distinction and you know it

How so? Elaborate please.
Because our natural advantage is that we are smart enough to use what is around us to our advantage. The fact that what we make is "made by humans" does not take away from the fact that it is the way we evolved to deal with our surroundings.

But everything we made took time. What if we had nothing again? How would we manage to rebuild?
With time.

And do you think with the way this generation is now that would be possible?
Considering every generation has looked at the next generation with contempt, yes.
[Insert that really old quote about the next generation and how they're terrible here]
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
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at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

Fuck having kids then.
You are completely missing the point. You were that kid.

If I was that kid I would have grown up into a druge right now.
Being a kid makes a kid grow up to become a druggy? Have you read Catcher in the Rye? You are seriously turning into the main character.

Kill John Lennon.

OT: No I have not.
Yeah, I might consider it if I were you.

Kids aren't innocent and nice like you seem to think you were or they all were. It's part of growing up.

Tell that to my own mother. She says she was the most well behaved kid ever.  ::)
Your mother says she was well behaved or you were? If she's talking about herself, she's full of it. If she's talking about you, she's still full of it, but she at least loves you and thinks of you as her lovely son that does no wrong, which would be good and bad.

No. She's full of it. Lol she doesn't think I'm her lovely son that does no wrong. XD


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this thread is gay as hell yo

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this thread is gay as hell yo

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calm down you pancake


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calm down you pancake

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YES!!!! Another Fear Factory fan! Someone finally found out my inspiration to this thread! \m/


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
this thread is gay as hell yo

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Intelligent enough to use complex tools and communicate its thoughts.

Think more about these things.

That's considered "intelligent" now? lol.
I'm sorry, do you have a better definition for intelligent lifeforms?


 
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^ Example of an unintelligent primitive human animal.
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Think more about these things.

That's considered "intelligent" now? lol.
I'm sorry, do you have a better definition for intelligent lifeforms?

Yes. Human beings that actually know the definition of the word "gay."

Some humans are just as primitive as their ancestors.


 
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YES!!!! Another Fear Factory fan! Someone finally found out my inspiration to this thread! \m/
Seeing them live... moshing to Edgecrusher: one of the best experiences of my life.


 
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YES!!!! Another Fear Factory fan! Someone finally found out my inspiration to this thread! \m/
Seeing them live... moshing to Edgecrusher: one of the best experiences of my life.

They're still around btw. I hear a new album is coming sometime this year. Be on the lookout. Latest new album is still The Industrialist.

Also, it's only fair now to post this the thread.

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This thread is dumb.

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What is this from?


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My stupidity is self evident.
Obsolete sounds weird now.

You've made the word meme tier.

Goddammit deci.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
this thread is gay as hell yo

^ Example of an unintelligent primitive human animal.
Intelligent enough to use complex tools and communicate its thoughts.

Think more about these things.

That's considered "intelligent" now? lol.
I'm sorry, do you have a better definition for intelligent lifeforms?

Yes. Human beings that actually know the definition of the word "gay."

Some humans are just as primitive as their ancestors.
Except gay has frequently been used to mean dumb when in the right context for years. You have too many unrealistic standards and such a rigid line of thought.


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How the fuck did this thing make it to 8 fucking pages.


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This thread is dumb.

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What is this from?
The Twilight Zone!


Obsolete sounds weird now.

You've made the word meme tier.

Goddammit deci.



 
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Obsolete against what exactly? Some other species who got farther along? Obsolete against nature when the fact of the matter is we are still very much a part of it and evolution itself?

And again, talking planetary death here. Dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago. Let that sink in for a second. Not even counting the actual time they were alive for, plus other living creatures that came before them, the last living dinosaur died 65 million years ago.

Our species, as relatively "modern" Humans, if I remember right, have existed for give or take 200, 300 thousand years. Compared to how long ago the dinosaurs died out, not even counting their lifespan as a species, we're still kids on the block.

And not only that, but before we stepped foot on the planet, our planet has suffered 7 known mass extinctions. When I say mass extinctions we're talking drops from 60% to 95% of all life dying out.

And yet here today, here we are. And even better. Sharks, crocodiles, the celocanth, horshoe crabs.

Those four animals were alive before, during, and after the dinosaurs. And they survived through mass extinctions to see the world today. They evolved, adapted, survived, and here they are. And they didn't even have technology. Just natural stubbornness.

In 1905, the province of Saskatchewan was founded. Roughly 100 years ago. On the wall of my restaurant there is a picture taken of the building I live in now from the 1920's.

From 1905, roughly 100 years ago, from the 1920's when that black and white picture was taken of the very same building I'm living in today that hasn't changed since, technology has accelerated and jumped so far. And it keeps moving. Come 65 years, if I'm still alive, I have no idea what I'll live to see.

You think people who were alive in the 20's knew what they were going to see today either?

The point being is, life is stubborn. Hell, even if you took our planet, and hucked it away from the sun, and the entire planet froze with no heat source, life would survive at the bottom of the oceans. You knock out 95% of all life on the planet with oxygen levels dipping to only 5% content in the air, and life is still here today.

We're not obsolete in any sense.

Just something new. And with being new comes mistakes. Lots of fuck ups. As a species, we've a lot of time left on our clocks just yet.



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How the fuck did this thing make it to 8 fucking pages.

Because I'm good at rustling humanites jimmies.


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"Ornate chandeliers suspended from a vaulted ceiling lit the spacious chamber; Jack tilted his gaze overhead and noticed how far away they were.  His thoughts wove around those bright lights, like a dance of ether masses spiraling in precious unison. Why must we try to clutch desperately for the mere threads of this world when we can clasp onto a tapestry of untold magnificence beyond this plane of existence?"
I remember I described you as intelligent, I changed my mind now though

You are

a pancake


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this thread is gay as hell yo

^ Example of an unintelligent primitive human animal.
Intelligent enough to use complex tools and communicate its thoughts.

Think more about these things.

That's considered "intelligent" now? lol.
I'm sorry, do you have a better definition for intelligent lifeforms?

Yes. Human beings that actually know the definition of the word "gay."

Some humans are just as primitive as their ancestors.
Except gay has frequently been used to mean dumb when in the right context for years. You have too many unrealistic standards and such a rigid line of thought.

It's incorrect fucking grammer. Don't say it's correct.


Obsolete against what exactly? Some other species who got farther along? Obsolete against nature when the fact of the matter is we are still very much a part of it and evolution itself?

And again, talking planetary death here. Dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago. Let that sink in for a second. Not even counting the actual time they were alive for, plus other living creatures that came before them, the last living dinosaur died 65 million years ago.

Our species, as relatively "modern" Humans, if I remember right, have existed for give or take 200, 300 thousand years. Compared to how long ago the dinosaurs died out, not even counting their lifespan as a species, we're still kids on the block.

And not only that, but before we stepped foot on the planet, our planet has suffered 7 known mass extinctions. When I say mass extinctions we're talking drops from 60% to 95% of all life dying out.

And yet here today, here we are. And even better. Sharks, crocodiles, the celocanth, horshoe crabs.

Those four animals were alive before, during, and after the dinosaurs. And they survived through mass extinctions to see the world today. They evolved, adapted, survived, and here they are. And they didn't even have technology. Just natural stubbornness.

In 1905, the province of Saskatchewan was founded. Roughly 100 years ago. On the wall of my restaurant there is a picture taken of the building I live in now from the 1920's.

From 1905, roughly 100 years ago, from the 1920's when that black and white picture was taken of the very same building I'm living in today that hasn't changed since, technology has accelerated and jumped so far. And it keeps moving. Come 65 years, if I'm still alive, I have no idea what I'll live to see.

You think people who were alive in the 20's knew what they were going to see today either?

The point being is, life is stubborn. Hell, even if you took our planet, and hucked it away from the sun, and the entire planet froze with no heat source, life would survive at the bottom of the oceans. You knock out 95% of all life on the planet with oxygen levels dipping to only 5% content in the air, and life is still here today.

We're not obsolete in any sense.

Just something new. And with being new comes mistakes. Lots of fuck ups. As a species, we've a lot of time left on our clocks just yet.

Hmmmm.

You've given me something to think about. I'm not so sure if i can debate this.


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I remember I described you as intelligent, I changed my mind now though

You are

a pancake

Then try to eat me.