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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?
that's an arbitrary distinction and you know it

How so? Elaborate please.
Because our natural advantage is that we are smart enough to use what is around us to our advantage. The fact that what we make is "made by humans" does not take away from the fact that it is the way we evolved to deal with our surroundings.

But everything we made took time. What if we had nothing again? How would we manage to rebuild?
With time.

And do you think with the way this generation is now that would be possible?
Considering every generation has looked at the next generation with contempt, yes.
[Insert that really old quote about the next generation and how they're terrible here]
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."


 
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And, er, sorry Deci, but they're absolutely right when they say humanity's niche is its ability to make tool. It's how we even out (and more so) the physical playing field with other predators.

But think about it. What if we didn't have this ability to create tools? How would you expect the human race to survive let alone adapt?
That's a terrible hypothetical...


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If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?
that's an arbitrary distinction and you know it

How so? Elaborate please.
Because our natural advantage is that we are smart enough to use what is around us to our advantage. The fact that what we make is "made by humans" does not take away from the fact that it is the way we evolved to deal with our surroundings.

But everything we made took time. What if we had nothing again? How would we manage to rebuild?
With time.

And do you think with the way this generation is now that would be possible?
Considering every generation has looked at the next generation with contempt, yes.

What do you think about the next generation then? You think it has a chance even? Especially with the way things are right now?


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And, er, sorry Deci, but they're absolutely right when they say humanity's niche is its ability to make tool. It's how we even out (and more so) the physical playing field with other predators.

But think about it. What if we didn't have this ability to create tools? How would you expect the human race to survive let alone adapt?

But we do, so that's irrelevant. It's like asking what would have happened if a bull didn't have horns, or if a tiger didn't have claws. They specifically evolved to have them, just as we specifically evolved to be intelligent enough to know that using a weapon is more effective in killing something than using our laughably underdeveloped muscles and teeth.


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?
that's an arbitrary distinction and you know it

How so? Elaborate please.
Because our natural advantage is that we are smart enough to use what is around us to our advantage. The fact that what we make is "made by humans" does not take away from the fact that it is the way we evolved to deal with our surroundings.

But everything we made took time. What if we had nothing again? How would we manage to rebuild?
With time.

And do you think with the way this generation is now that would be possible?
Considering every generation has looked at the next generation with contempt, yes.

What do you think about the next generation then? You think it has a chance even? Especially with the way things are right now?
Seeing as how literally every generation has thought the next will bring about the end of the world, and it never has, I'd say they're gonna do fine.


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And, er, sorry Deci, but they're absolutely right when they say humanity's niche is its ability to make tool. It's how we even out (and more so) the physical playing field with other predators.

But think about it. What if we didn't have this ability to create tools? How would you expect the human race to survive let alone adapt?
That's a terrible hypothetical...

How? Think of the possible outcomes. Everything in this universe is dictated by probability. That means there was a chance where humanity could have not adapted or not have been smart enough to have this ability to think ahead of other animals.


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If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?
that's an arbitrary distinction and you know it

How so? Elaborate please.
Because our natural advantage is that we are smart enough to use what is around us to our advantage. The fact that what we make is "made by humans" does not take away from the fact that it is the way we evolved to deal with our surroundings.

But everything we made took time. What if we had nothing again? How would we manage to rebuild?
With time.

And do you think with the way this generation is now that would be possible?
Considering every generation has looked at the next generation with contempt, yes.

What do you think about the next generation then? You think it has a chance even? Especially with the way things are right now?
Seeing as how literally every generation has thought the next will bring about the end of the world, and it never has, I'd say they're gonna do fine.

Forget the end of the world. I'm talking about surviving. The test of time. What if humanity falls into a really disturbing dictatorship far into the future?

What? I can dream.


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My stupidity is self evident.
And, er, sorry Deci, but they're absolutely right when they say humanity's niche is its ability to make tool. It's how we even out (and more so) the physical playing field with other predators.

But think about it. What if we didn't have this ability to create tools? How would you expect the human race to survive let alone adapt?
That's a terrible hypothetical...

How? Think of the possible outcomes. Everything in this universe is dictated by probability. That means there was a chance where humanity could have not adapted or not have been smart enough to have this ability to think ahead of other animals.
then it wouldn't have been humanity as we know it.

The fact remains that humans do have that ability.


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If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?
that's an arbitrary distinction and you know it

How so? Elaborate please.
Because our natural advantage is that we are smart enough to use what is around us to our advantage. The fact that what we make is "made by humans" does not take away from the fact that it is the way we evolved to deal with our surroundings.

But everything we made took time. What if we had nothing again? How would we manage to rebuild?
With time.

And do you think with the way this generation is now that would be possible?
Considering every generation has looked at the next generation with contempt, yes.
[Insert that really old quote about the next generation and how they're terrible here]
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

Fuck having kids then.


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How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?


Wha? Humanity isn't exempt from nature. Everything we do is 'natural' in that sense.

So the internet is considered natural to you? I'm sorry but the way I see it, eating, shiting, pissing, fucking, and sleeping are what I consider natural.
Yes because it is a product of this universe. It didn't just pop into existence with no external influence. The internet wouldn't exist if nature didn't allow us to exist as a part of it and thus create the internet.

Simply because we have a higher intelligence does not mean we are separate from nature. We still exist and act in this universe according to conditioning, and the internet is just another product of that.

But how is the internet natural exactly? Yes humans are responsible for it's creation, but think of it this way. How is software itself considered natural?

Right now all this here is software. There is no physical media involved. I can't touch the threads with my hands or touch any of the words on screen. I can touch the screen but that doesn't count.
It's natural to me because anything that exists as a part of this system (that being our universe) is a part of nature. You can't touch emotions or ideas either but they're just as natural.

For me, nature isn't any specific part of reality, it IS reality.


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To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?
that's an arbitrary distinction and you know it

How so? Elaborate please.
Because our natural advantage is that we are smart enough to use what is around us to our advantage. The fact that what we make is "made by humans" does not take away from the fact that it is the way we evolved to deal with our surroundings.

But everything we made took time. What if we had nothing again? How would we manage to rebuild?
With time.

And do you think with the way this generation is now that would be possible?
Considering every generation has looked at the next generation with contempt, yes.

What do you think about the next generation then? You think it has a chance even? Especially with the way things are right now?
Seeing as how literally every generation has thought the next will bring about the end of the world, and it never has, I'd say they're gonna do fine.

Forget the end of the world. I'm talking about surviving. The test of time. What if humanity falls into a really disturbing dictatorship far into the future?

What? I can dream.
Then that dictatorship will end, because society is always gonna fall apart according to you, right?

Realistically, that isn't going to happen.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?
that's an arbitrary distinction and you know it

How so? Elaborate please.
Because our natural advantage is that we are smart enough to use what is around us to our advantage. The fact that what we make is "made by humans" does not take away from the fact that it is the way we evolved to deal with our surroundings.

But everything we made took time. What if we had nothing again? How would we manage to rebuild?
With time.

And do you think with the way this generation is now that would be possible?
Considering every generation has looked at the next generation with contempt, yes.
[Insert that really old quote about the next generation and how they're terrible here]
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

Fuck having kids then.
You are completely missing the point. You were that kid.


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How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?


Wha? Humanity isn't exempt from nature. Everything we do is 'natural' in that sense.

So the internet is considered natural to you? I'm sorry but the way I see it, eating, shiting, pissing, fucking, and sleeping are what I consider natural.
Yes because it is a product of this universe. It didn't just pop into existence with no external influence. The internet wouldn't exist if nature didn't allow us to exist as a part of it and thus create the internet.

Simply because we have a higher intelligence does not mean we are separate from nature. We still exist and act in this universe according to conditioning, and the internet is just another product of that.

But how is the internet natural exactly? Yes humans are responsible for it's creation, but think of it this way. How is software itself considered natural?

Right now all this here is software. There is no physical media involved. I can't touch the threads with my hands or touch any of the words on screen. I can touch the screen but that doesn't count.
It's natural to me because anything that exists as a part of this system (that being our universe) is a part of nature. You can't touch emotions or ideas either but they're just as natural.

For me, nature isn't any specific part of reality, it IS reality.

Hmmm. I suppose you have a valid point, so your saying our own manufactured reality with time and internet is part of nature?

And, er, sorry Deci, but they're absolutely right when they say humanity's niche is its ability to make tool. It's how we even out (and more so) the physical playing field with other predators.

But think about it. What if we didn't have this ability to create tools? How would you expect the human race to survive let alone adapt?
That's a terrible hypothetical...

How? Think of the possible outcomes. Everything in this universe is dictated by probability. That means there was a chance where humanity could have not adapted or not have been smart enough to have this ability to think ahead of other animals.
then it wouldn't have been humanity as we know it.

The fact remains that humans do have that ability.

Well, I suppose that's true. But what if only ONE human on earth survives. Then what?


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If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?
that's an arbitrary distinction and you know it

How so? Elaborate please.
Because our natural advantage is that we are smart enough to use what is around us to our advantage. The fact that what we make is "made by humans" does not take away from the fact that it is the way we evolved to deal with our surroundings.

But everything we made took time. What if we had nothing again? How would we manage to rebuild?
With time.

And do you think with the way this generation is now that would be possible?
Considering every generation has looked at the next generation with contempt, yes.
[Insert that really old quote about the next generation and how they're terrible here]
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

Fuck having kids then.
You are completely missing the point. You were that kid.

If I was that kid I would have grown up into a druge right now.


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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?
that's an arbitrary distinction and you know it

How so? Elaborate please.
Because our natural advantage is that we are smart enough to use what is around us to our advantage. The fact that what we make is "made by humans" does not take away from the fact that it is the way we evolved to deal with our surroundings.

But everything we made took time. What if we had nothing again? How would we manage to rebuild?
With time.

And do you think with the way this generation is now that would be possible?
Considering every generation has looked at the next generation with contempt, yes.
[Insert that really old quote about the next generation and how they're terrible here]
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

Fuck having kids then.
You are completely missing the point. You were that kid.

If I was that kid I would have grown up into a druge right now.
Being a kid makes a kid grow up to become a druggy? Have you read Catcher in the Rye? You are seriously turning into the main character.


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If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?
that's an arbitrary distinction and you know it

How so? Elaborate please.
Because our natural advantage is that we are smart enough to use what is around us to our advantage. The fact that what we make is "made by humans" does not take away from the fact that it is the way we evolved to deal with our surroundings.

But everything we made took time. What if we had nothing again? How would we manage to rebuild?
With time.

And do you think with the way this generation is now that would be possible?
Considering every generation has looked at the next generation with contempt, yes.
[Insert that really old quote about the next generation and how they're terrible here]
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

Fuck having kids then.
You are completely missing the point. You were that kid.

If I was that kid I would have grown up into a druge right now.
Being a kid makes a kid grow up to become a druggy? Have you read Catcher in the Rye? You are seriously turning into the main character.

Kill John Lennon.

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How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?


Wha? Humanity isn't exempt from nature. Everything we do is 'natural' in that sense.

So the internet is considered natural to you? I'm sorry but the way I see it, eating, shiting, pissing, fucking, and sleeping are what I consider natural.
Yes because it is a product of this universe. It didn't just pop into existence with no external influence. The internet wouldn't exist if nature didn't allow us to exist as a part of it and thus create the internet.

Simply because we have a higher intelligence does not mean we are separate from nature. We still exist and act in this universe according to conditioning, and the internet is just another product of that.

But how is the internet natural exactly? Yes humans are responsible for it's creation, but think of it this way. How is software itself considered natural?

Right now all this here is software. There is no physical media involved. I can't touch the threads with my hands or touch any of the words on screen. I can touch the screen but that doesn't count.
It's natural to me because anything that exists as a part of this system (that being our universe) is a part of nature. You can't touch emotions or ideas either but they're just as natural.

For me, nature isn't any specific part of reality, it IS reality.

Hmmm. I suppose you have a valid point, so your saying our own manufactured reality with time and internet is part of nature?

And, er, sorry Deci, but they're absolutely right when they say humanity's niche is its ability to make tool. It's how we even out (and more so) the physical playing field with other predators.

But think about it. What if we didn't have this ability to create tools? How would you expect the human race to survive let alone adapt?
That's a terrible hypothetical...

How? Think of the possible outcomes. Everything in this universe is dictated by probability. That means there was a chance where humanity could have not adapted or not have been smart enough to have this ability to think ahead of other animals.
then it wouldn't have been humanity as we know it.

The fact remains that humans do have that ability.

Well, I suppose that's true. But what if only ONE human on earth survives. Then what?
he either makes the best of his situation or kills himself due to despair


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How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?


Wha? Humanity isn't exempt from nature. Everything we do is 'natural' in that sense.

So the internet is considered natural to you? I'm sorry but the way I see it, eating, shiting, pissing, fucking, and sleeping are what I consider natural.
Yes because it is a product of this universe. It didn't just pop into existence with no external influence. The internet wouldn't exist if nature didn't allow us to exist as a part of it and thus create the internet.

Simply because we have a higher intelligence does not mean we are separate from nature. We still exist and act in this universe according to conditioning, and the internet is just another product of that.

But how is the internet natural exactly? Yes humans are responsible for it's creation, but think of it this way. How is software itself considered natural?

Right now all this here is software. There is no physical media involved. I can't touch the threads with my hands or touch any of the words on screen. I can touch the screen but that doesn't count.
It's natural to me because anything that exists as a part of this system (that being our universe) is a part of nature. You can't touch emotions or ideas either but they're just as natural.

For me, nature isn't any specific part of reality, it IS reality.

Hmmm. I suppose you have a valid point, so your saying our own manufactured reality with time and internet is part of nature?

And, er, sorry Deci, but they're absolutely right when they say humanity's niche is its ability to make tool. It's how we even out (and more so) the physical playing field with other predators.

But think about it. What if we didn't have this ability to create tools? How would you expect the human race to survive let alone adapt?
That's a terrible hypothetical...

How? Think of the possible outcomes. Everything in this universe is dictated by probability. That means there was a chance where humanity could have not adapted or not have been smart enough to have this ability to think ahead of other animals.
then it wouldn't have been humanity as we know it.

The fact remains that humans do have that ability.

Well, I suppose that's true. But what if only ONE human on earth survives. Then what?
he either makes the best of his situation or kills himself due to despair

What if the last human being on earth is female?


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If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?
that's an arbitrary distinction and you know it

How so? Elaborate please.
Because our natural advantage is that we are smart enough to use what is around us to our advantage. The fact that what we make is "made by humans" does not take away from the fact that it is the way we evolved to deal with our surroundings.

But everything we made took time. What if we had nothing again? How would we manage to rebuild?
With time.

And do you think with the way this generation is now that would be possible?
Considering every generation has looked at the next generation with contempt, yes.
[Insert that really old quote about the next generation and how they're terrible here]
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

Fuck having kids then.
You are completely missing the point. You were that kid.

If I was that kid I would have grown up into a druge right now.
Being a kid makes a kid grow up to become a druggy? Have you read Catcher in the Rye? You are seriously turning into the main character.

Kill John Lennon.

OT: No I have not.
Yeah, I might consider it if I were you.

Kids aren't innocent and nice like you seem to think you were or they all were. It's part of growing up.


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If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?
that's an arbitrary distinction and you know it

How so? Elaborate please.
Because our natural advantage is that we are smart enough to use what is around us to our advantage. The fact that what we make is "made by humans" does not take away from the fact that it is the way we evolved to deal with our surroundings.

But everything we made took time. What if we had nothing again? How would we manage to rebuild?
With time.

And do you think with the way this generation is now that would be possible?
Considering every generation has looked at the next generation with contempt, yes.
[Insert that really old quote about the next generation and how they're terrible here]
"The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers."

Fuck having kids then.
You are completely missing the point. You were that kid.

If I was that kid I would have grown up into a druge right now.
Being a kid makes a kid grow up to become a druggy? Have you read Catcher in the Rye? You are seriously turning into the main character.

Kill John Lennon.

OT: No I have not.
Yeah, I might consider it if I were you.

Kids aren't innocent and nice like you seem to think you were or they all were. It's part of growing up.

Tell that to my own mother. She says she was the most well behaved kid ever.  ::)


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How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?


Wha? Humanity isn't exempt from nature. Everything we do is 'natural' in that sense.

So the internet is considered natural to you? I'm sorry but the way I see it, eating, shiting, pissing, fucking, and sleeping are what I consider natural.
Yes because it is a product of this universe. It didn't just pop into existence with no external influence. The internet wouldn't exist if nature didn't allow us to exist as a part of it and thus create the internet.

Simply because we have a higher intelligence does not mean we are separate from nature. We still exist and act in this universe according to conditioning, and the internet is just another product of that.

But how is the internet natural exactly? Yes humans are responsible for it's creation, but think of it this way. How is software itself considered natural?

Right now all this here is software. There is no physical media involved. I can't touch the threads with my hands or touch any of the words on screen. I can touch the screen but that doesn't count.
It's natural to me because anything that exists as a part of this system (that being our universe) is a part of nature. You can't touch emotions or ideas either but they're just as natural.

For me, nature isn't any specific part of reality, it IS reality.

Hmmm. I suppose you have a valid point, so your saying our own manufactured reality with time and internet is part of nature?

And, er, sorry Deci, but they're absolutely right when they say humanity's niche is its ability to make tool. It's how we even out (and more so) the physical playing field with other predators.

But think about it. What if we didn't have this ability to create tools? How would you expect the human race to survive let alone adapt?
That's a terrible hypothetical...

How? Think of the possible outcomes. Everything in this universe is dictated by probability. That means there was a chance where humanity could have not adapted or not have been smart enough to have this ability to think ahead of other animals.
then it wouldn't have been humanity as we know it.

The fact remains that humans do have that ability.

Well, I suppose that's true. But what if only ONE human on earth survives. Then what?
he either makes the best of his situation or kills himself due to despair

What if the last human being on earth is female?
change my pronouns

what if the last person on earth is an attack chopper?


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Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Hmmm. I suppose you have a valid point, so your saying our own manufactured reality with time and internet is part of nature?
Yes because we are a part of nature. Technology may be the result of intelligence, but intelligence is the result of sentience and sentience is just another natural phenomenon.

The equation never went astray to lead us to this point, this world of technology and organization. Everything happened just as it was conditioned to happen. Nature did as nature does and thus our world was.
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How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?


Wha? Humanity isn't exempt from nature. Everything we do is 'natural' in that sense.

So the internet is considered natural to you? I'm sorry but the way I see it, eating, shiting, pissing, fucking, and sleeping are what I consider natural.
Yes because it is a product of this universe. It didn't just pop into existence with no external influence. The internet wouldn't exist if nature didn't allow us to exist as a part of it and thus create the internet.

Simply because we have a higher intelligence does not mean we are separate from nature. We still exist and act in this universe according to conditioning, and the internet is just another product of that.

But how is the internet natural exactly? Yes humans are responsible for it's creation, but think of it this way. How is software itself considered natural?

Right now all this here is software. There is no physical media involved. I can't touch the threads with my hands or touch any of the words on screen. I can touch the screen but that doesn't count.
It's natural to me because anything that exists as a part of this system (that being our universe) is a part of nature. You can't touch emotions or ideas either but they're just as natural.

For me, nature isn't any specific part of reality, it IS reality.

Hmmm. I suppose you have a valid point, so your saying our own manufactured reality with time and internet is part of nature?

And, er, sorry Deci, but they're absolutely right when they say humanity's niche is its ability to make tool. It's how we even out (and more so) the physical playing field with other predators.

But think about it. What if we didn't have this ability to create tools? How would you expect the human race to survive let alone adapt?
That's a terrible hypothetical...

How? Think of the possible outcomes. Everything in this universe is dictated by probability. That means there was a chance where humanity could have not adapted or not have been smart enough to have this ability to think ahead of other animals.
then it wouldn't have been humanity as we know it.

The fact remains that humans do have that ability.

Well, I suppose that's true. But what if only ONE human on earth survives. Then what?
he either makes the best of his situation or kills himself due to despair

What if the last human being on earth is female?
change my pronouns

what if the last person on earth is an attack chopper?

An attack chopper is an inanimate object.

Silly human.


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How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?


Wha? Humanity isn't exempt from nature. Everything we do is 'natural' in that sense.

So the internet is considered natural to you? I'm sorry but the way I see it, eating, shiting, pissing, fucking, and sleeping are what I consider natural.
Yes because it is a product of this universe. It didn't just pop into existence with no external influence. The internet wouldn't exist if nature didn't allow us to exist as a part of it and thus create the internet.

Simply because we have a higher intelligence does not mean we are separate from nature. We still exist and act in this universe according to conditioning, and the internet is just another product of that.

But how is the internet natural exactly? Yes humans are responsible for it's creation, but think of it this way. How is software itself considered natural?

Right now all this here is software. There is no physical media involved. I can't touch the threads with my hands or touch any of the words on screen. I can touch the screen but that doesn't count.
It's natural to me because anything that exists as a part of this system (that being our universe) is a part of nature. You can't touch emotions or ideas either but they're just as natural.

For me, nature isn't any specific part of reality, it IS reality.

Hmmm. I suppose you have a valid point, so your saying our own manufactured reality with time and internet is part of nature?

And, er, sorry Deci, but they're absolutely right when they say humanity's niche is its ability to make tool. It's how we even out (and more so) the physical playing field with other predators.

But think about it. What if we didn't have this ability to create tools? How would you expect the human race to survive let alone adapt?
That's a terrible hypothetical...

How? Think of the possible outcomes. Everything in this universe is dictated by probability. That means there was a chance where humanity could have not adapted or not have been smart enough to have this ability to think ahead of other animals.
then it wouldn't have been humanity as we know it.

The fact remains that humans do have that ability.

Well, I suppose that's true. But what if only ONE human on earth survives. Then what?
he either makes the best of his situation or kills himself due to despair

What if the last human being on earth is female?
change my pronouns

what if the last person on earth is an attack chopper?

An attack chopper is an inanimate object.

Silly human.
you fucking bigot