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"Obsoletion" implies there is something to replace us that is more efficient or superior to us as we are.

Although I would enjoy knowing that the human race will come to an end soon, I disagree with your assessment.

The instant we can start uploading minds into robot bodies, the age of puny organics is at an end.

And on the day we can make that happen, Mr. Psychologist's trousers will be soaked.

I'm all for it if that means we don't have to reproduce anymore.

If we're immortal within the confines of our mechanical being, what use for offspring to we have?

...Because reproduction is the point of life? The one basic task we're born in order to accomplish? And we could still reproduce, most likely, just with less...squishiness. We're even working on the technology to feel through prosthetic limbs, though I'd imagine it'd be much more complex to enable sensations through a fully metal body.

What about artificial insemination? Doesn't that make males obsolete and useless?
Yes, go back to the obsolete room.

I'm not a human male. I'm not even human....
We get it, you're a charmander.

Actually no. I'm your worst nightmare.
Sly Stallone...is that you?

 
 
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dracula can eat my whole ass!
Pls stop quoting me unless you're directly replying to me :'(

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"Obsoletion" implies there is something to replace us that is more efficient or superior to us as we are.

Although I would enjoy knowing that the human race will come to an end soon, I disagree with your assessment.

The instant we can start uploading minds into robot bodies, the age of puny organics is at an end.

And on the day we can make that happen, Mr. Psychologist's trousers will be soaked.

I'm all for it if that means we don't have to reproduce anymore.

If we're immortal within the confines of our mechanical being, what use for offspring to we have?

...Because reproduction is the point of life? The one basic task we're born in order to accomplish? And we could still reproduce, most likely, just with less...squishiness. We're even working on the technology to feel through prosthetic limbs, though I'd imagine it'd be much more complex to enable sensations through a fully metal body.
pls, don't do this too yourself

Don't you enjoy my talk of robot sex? I know I do.


 
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Pls stop quoting me unless you're directly replying to me :'(
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Quote from: [Raiden] Snake on March 03, 2015, 11:42:03 PM
Pls stop quoting me unless you're directly replying to me :'(

It wasn't me dude. And I do reply to you. It could be a bug with this.... obsolete website.  8)

 
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obsolete website.  8)
That's it.

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"Obsoletion" implies there is something to replace us that is more efficient or superior to us as we are.

Although I would enjoy knowing that the human race will come to an end soon, I disagree with your assessment.

The instant we can start uploading minds into robot bodies, the age of puny organics is at an end.

And on the day we can make that happen, Mr. Psychologist's trousers will be soaked.

I'm all for it if that means we don't have to reproduce anymore.

If we're immortal within the confines of our mechanical being, what use for offspring to we have?

...Because reproduction is the point of life? The one basic task we're born in order to accomplish? And we could still reproduce, most likely, just with less...squishiness. We're even working on the technology to feel through prosthetic limbs, though I'd imagine it'd be much more complex to enable sensations through a fully metal body.

What about artificial insemination? Doesn't that make males obsolete and useless?
Yes, go back to the obsolete room.

I'm not a human male. I'm not even human....
dammit deci.

 
 
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It wasn't me dude. And I do reply to you. It could be a bug with this.... obsolete website.  8)

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That's it.

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"Obsoletion" implies there is something to replace us that is more efficient or superior to us as we are.

Although I would enjoy knowing that the human race will come to an end soon, I disagree with your assessment.

The instant we can start uploading minds into robot bodies, the age of puny organics is at an end.

And on the day we can make that happen, Mr. Psychologist's trousers will be soaked.

I'm all for it if that means we don't have to reproduce anymore.

If we're immortal within the confines of our mechanical being, what use for offspring to we have?

...Because reproduction is the point of life? The one basic task we're born in order to accomplish? And we could still reproduce, most likely, just with less...squishiness. We're even working on the technology to feel through prosthetic limbs, though I'd imagine it'd be much more complex to enable sensations through a fully metal body.

What about artificial insemination? Doesn't that make males obsolete and useless?
Yes, go back to the obsolete room.

I'm not a human male. I'm not even human....
dammit deci.

What?

 
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...Because reproduction is the point of life?
Not really. There is no point to life except the subjective meanings we give it.

That...is a debate I've done before and have no inclination to get into again. I shouldn't have brought that up.

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And we could still reproduce, most likely, just with less...squishiness.
Unless there's some way they can get a child's consent to be born, I'm not an advocate for reproduction. Especially when immortality makes it redundant.

Oh, you ascribe to Verby's line of thinking. I'm sorry, but that really is disappointing.

Fact is, there's literally nothing there before a child is born. No thought, no emotion, nothing. You're asking for nothing to give its consent. I'd describe it as being like asking an inanimate object for consent before you do something with it, but it's less than that. It's less than asking some plastic and circuitry for consent before building it into a computer. It's less than asking the chair you're sitting in for consent before sitting in it. It's less than asking a lightswitch for consent before you flip it.

If there was something to ask for consent before you do something to it, of course I would. But there isn't. The child-to-be does not exist before the egg gets fertilized and starts multiplying into a full human being. Something that does not exist cannot have rights or freedom of choice, because it does not exist.

 
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It wasn't me dude. And I do reply to you. It could be a bug with this.... obsolete website.  8)


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Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 11:48:04 PM
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It wasn't me dude. And I do reply to you. It could be a bug with this.... obsolete website.  8)


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Quote from: Korra Valentine on March 03, 2015, 11:48:44 PM
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It wasn't me dude. And I do reply to you. It could be a bug with this.... obsolete website.  8)


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No. That shit is too mOLDy. Get it that crap out of here!

 
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"Obsoletion" implies there is something to replace us that is more efficient or superior to us as we are.

Although I would enjoy knowing that the human race will come to an end soon, I disagree with your assessment.

The instant we can start uploading minds into robot bodies, the age of puny organics is at an end.

And on the day we can make that happen, Mr. Psychologist's trousers will be soaked.

I'm all for it if that means we don't have to reproduce anymore.

If we're immortal within the confines of our mechanical being, what use for offspring to we have?

...Because reproduction is the point of life? The one basic task we're born in order to accomplish? And we could still reproduce, most likely, just with less...squishiness. We're even working on the technology to feel through prosthetic limbs, though I'd imagine it'd be much more complex to enable sensations through a fully metal body.

What about artificial insemination? Doesn't that make males obsolete and useless?
Yes, go back to the obsolete room.

I'm not a human male. I'm not even human....
We get it, you're a charmander.

Actually no. I'm your worst nightmare.
Sly Stallone...is that you?

Maybe...

 
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It wasn't me dude. And I do reply to you. It could be a bug with this.... obsolete website.  8)


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No. That shit is too mOLDy. Get it that crap out of here!

 
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It wasn't me dude. And I do reply to you. It could be a bug with this.... obsolete website.  8)


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No. That shit is too mOLDy. Get it that crap out of here!


NOOOO!

And how did I miss this?

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......No. Korra don't you even dare think about it. Korra what the hell are you doing what that shovel? You put that down right now.

Korra! KORRA! KORRA NO!

*gets hit in the head with a shovel*


No! Bad Korra! BAD KORRA! VERY BAD! D:


I'm.... confused. O.o
Yes you are. Now rest and think of happy thoughts. Like space marines and space ships battling each other over a nebula.

I'm not a weak minded storm trooper. Humanity is still screwed.
You leave me no choice then.



Stop. I want to discuss what I intend to discuss. That mean is really obsolete right now anyway. There are better ones to use.
This thread is obsolete and must be replaced.

D:

No. I don't believe it!
Do you truly believe these theatrics can prevent my derailing? Embrace your sad fate and retain your obsolete thread. I am already beyond you.

I must be falling apart. I am....... Obs-

No.

 
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Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 11:31:23 PM
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If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

 
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Quote from: Plotmaster | Fluid Druid on March 03, 2015, 11:47:36 PM
Oh, you ascribe to Verby's line of thinking. I'm sorry, but that really is disappointing.
Well, he doesn't own anti-natalism :P

I hope this doesn't interfere with anything we've established previously about our relationship.

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Fact is, there's literally nothing there before a child is born. No thought, no emotion, nothing. You're asking for nothing to give its consent. I'd describe it as being like asking an inanimate object for consent before you do something with it, but it's less than that. It's less than asking some plastic and circuitry for consent before building it into a computer. It's less than asking the chair you're sitting in for consent before sitting in it. It's less than asking a lightswitch for consent before you flip it.

That's my point. Because you can't ask nothing for it's consent, you shouldn't do it.

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If there was something to ask for consent before you do something to it, of course I would. But there isn't. The child-to-be does not exist before the egg gets fertilized and starts multiplying into a full human being. Something that does not exist cannot have rights or freedom of choice, because it does not exist.
It will eventually exist. You are still condemning the child to a life it could potentially not want, which makes it immoral.


I'd like to continue this debate, but I'm tired. If you don't want to wait until tomorrow PM me so we can have a chat.
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If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?

 
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...Because reproduction is the point of life?
Not really. There is no point to life except the subjective meanings we give it.

That...is a debate I've done before and have no inclination to get into again. I shouldn't have brought that up.

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And we could still reproduce, most likely, just with less...squishiness.
Unless there's some way they can get a child's consent to be born, I'm not an advocate for reproduction. Especially when immortality makes it redundant.

Oh, you ascribe to Verby's line of thinking. I'm sorry, but that really is disappointing.

Fact is, there's literally nothing there before a child is born. No thought, no emotion, nothing. You're asking for nothing to give its consent. I'd describe it as being like asking an inanimate object for consent before you do something with it, but it's less than that. It's less than asking some plastic and circuitry for consent before building it into a computer. It's less than asking the chair you're sitting in for consent before sitting in it. It's less than asking a lightswitch for consent before you flip it.

If there was something to ask for consent before you do something to it, of course I would. But there isn't. The child-to-be does not exist before the egg gets fertilized and starts multiplying into a full human being. Something that does not exist cannot have rights or freedom of choice, because it does not exist.
this is why i asked you not to do this too yourself

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If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?
that's an arbitrary distinction and you know it

 
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If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.

All we have are tenacity and ingenuity. We're fortunate that those make up for us being one of the weakest, slowest, least physically accustomed species among those at the upper portion of the food chain.
Why does being faster, stronger count for shit when those other abilities allowed us basic mastery over a most of the landmass on the planet?

Oh, that has little to do with how physically powerful we are, and more to do with humans fucking a hell of a lot more than most of the other large predators. Seriously, we breed like rabbits, except rabbits don't gang up on gorillas and hippos. Also, we don't run away when one of us is killed, we turn back and kill whatever took one of us down. Few other animals do that.

In short, we could drive them out, but they could never drive us out, even though they could kill us without much trouble if they turned and fought.

Again, try no man made weapons at all. We wouldn't win the fight.

Deci removing our ability to make and use tools is like removing a lion's claws and teeth or a falcons eyesight.

It's our natural advantage over other species.

How is it our natural advantage if what we create is artificial?
that's an arbitrary distinction and you know it

How so? Elaborate please.

 
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