Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:54:47 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 03, 2015, 10:53:04 PMQuote from: Fruit on March 03, 2015, 10:51:56 PMI don't really get this whole "If society collapses then everyone's gonna start killing each other"likehumans are pretty social creaturesThey seem to think it will be like Rome, but kinda ignore how modern society is incredibly different than Rome.You don't think Anarchy would ensue? You seriously trust every person on this planet with that? Thugs will have the biggest advantage btw.Except they won't, people band together and would rather ally than fight.There's also this internet thing that breaks down social/geographical barriers allowing world-wide communication and learning. Also, great leaps in technology and social acceptance and structure. The world would not end easily.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 03, 2015, 10:53:04 PMQuote from: Fruit on March 03, 2015, 10:51:56 PMI don't really get this whole "If society collapses then everyone's gonna start killing each other"likehumans are pretty social creaturesThey seem to think it will be like Rome, but kinda ignore how modern society is incredibly different than Rome.You don't think Anarchy would ensue? You seriously trust every person on this planet with that? Thugs will have the biggest advantage btw.
Quote from: Fruit on March 03, 2015, 10:51:56 PMI don't really get this whole "If society collapses then everyone's gonna start killing each other"likehumans are pretty social creaturesThey seem to think it will be like Rome, but kinda ignore how modern society is incredibly different than Rome.
I don't really get this whole "If society collapses then everyone's gonna start killing each other"likehumans are pretty social creatures
Well this is an unnecessarily profound thread.
The universe doesn't have standards. It just does as conditions permit. The stars may not wince when you die but they don't cheer when you accomplish either. It's true.However that doesn't allude to us being obsolete. The only thing it alludes to is that we aren't 'this way' or 'that way' ultimately, and that the concept of even being obsolete is utterly meaningless.Humanity is, and that is that. You can try to measure the state of our existence and judge it in any number of subjective ways, but that doesn't mean that said state is going to be any different the instant after you've finished measuring it and forming your opinion, than it was the instant before. The only thing you taking the time to measure and judge the state of humanity has the potential to change is your mindset which is no more absolute than the fleeting human race that gave birth to it.Don't fret over impermanence. Humanity will pass but so does everything else. Animals, plants, love, hate, happiness, suffering, civilization, anarchy, the earth, the moon, and even those stars that don't even wince.
Quote from: Saleem on March 03, 2015, 11:04:52 PMWell this is an unnecessarily profound thread.he went full smith from the matrix
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 03, 2015, 10:59:55 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:55:31 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 03, 2015, 10:54:18 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:52:56 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:46:00 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:44:31 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:43:55 PMI disagree with you.Elaborate.Well you see your entire argument is that human engineering won't find a way to negate those negative effects on us.Science is powerful bro. It's all about random chance at the end though. We're not smart enough as a species to over come many things, and there is still so much unknown out in the vast void of space. We don't even know our own planet inside out, our oceans haven't even been fully explored.We're just as clueless as the rest of the animals that walk the earth except we have a mind to adapt with instead of just wandering around like a lost animal, but even at that we still have flaws in our system.For instance, 5 years from now there is a chance that a meteorite that's the size if Manhattan New York is going to hit the earth leaving a massive crater killing all of us off in the process.I haven't heard anything about it since 2005, and to be honest that's what scares me the most then the stupid bullshit that went on with the world ending in 2012. Oh and the world actually could have ended on July 23rd of 2012 instead. We were a few inches away of our planet becoming fried matter from the sun from what I've heard. I'm not sure just how true it is, but I wouldn't be surprised.Oh, and if humanity is still alive when our sun is dying, good luck trying to survive that. It will wipe everything out of it's path when it explodes.Okay, the Sun isn't going to explode, learn astronomy please, this stuff triggers me. Edit with more will come, but I had to say that.In this life time? No. The Sun won't explode. I'm talking about later on.Please study your science carefully.I will cut you the fuck up, do not mess with me on this. The sun is not of sufficient mass to explode. It will enlarge to a red giant, then go to a white dwarf.If that's what you seriously believe then I do feel sorry for your great great great great great great (you get the idea) grandkids should humanity be around long enough to even witness that.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:55:31 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 03, 2015, 10:54:18 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:52:56 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:46:00 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:44:31 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:43:55 PMI disagree with you.Elaborate.Well you see your entire argument is that human engineering won't find a way to negate those negative effects on us.Science is powerful bro. It's all about random chance at the end though. We're not smart enough as a species to over come many things, and there is still so much unknown out in the vast void of space. We don't even know our own planet inside out, our oceans haven't even been fully explored.We're just as clueless as the rest of the animals that walk the earth except we have a mind to adapt with instead of just wandering around like a lost animal, but even at that we still have flaws in our system.For instance, 5 years from now there is a chance that a meteorite that's the size if Manhattan New York is going to hit the earth leaving a massive crater killing all of us off in the process.I haven't heard anything about it since 2005, and to be honest that's what scares me the most then the stupid bullshit that went on with the world ending in 2012. Oh and the world actually could have ended on July 23rd of 2012 instead. We were a few inches away of our planet becoming fried matter from the sun from what I've heard. I'm not sure just how true it is, but I wouldn't be surprised.Oh, and if humanity is still alive when our sun is dying, good luck trying to survive that. It will wipe everything out of it's path when it explodes.Okay, the Sun isn't going to explode, learn astronomy please, this stuff triggers me. Edit with more will come, but I had to say that.In this life time? No. The Sun won't explode. I'm talking about later on.Please study your science carefully.I will cut you the fuck up, do not mess with me on this. The sun is not of sufficient mass to explode. It will enlarge to a red giant, then go to a white dwarf.
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 03, 2015, 10:54:18 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:52:56 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:46:00 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:44:31 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:43:55 PMI disagree with you.Elaborate.Well you see your entire argument is that human engineering won't find a way to negate those negative effects on us.Science is powerful bro. It's all about random chance at the end though. We're not smart enough as a species to over come many things, and there is still so much unknown out in the vast void of space. We don't even know our own planet inside out, our oceans haven't even been fully explored.We're just as clueless as the rest of the animals that walk the earth except we have a mind to adapt with instead of just wandering around like a lost animal, but even at that we still have flaws in our system.For instance, 5 years from now there is a chance that a meteorite that's the size if Manhattan New York is going to hit the earth leaving a massive crater killing all of us off in the process.I haven't heard anything about it since 2005, and to be honest that's what scares me the most then the stupid bullshit that went on with the world ending in 2012. Oh and the world actually could have ended on July 23rd of 2012 instead. We were a few inches away of our planet becoming fried matter from the sun from what I've heard. I'm not sure just how true it is, but I wouldn't be surprised.Oh, and if humanity is still alive when our sun is dying, good luck trying to survive that. It will wipe everything out of it's path when it explodes.Okay, the Sun isn't going to explode, learn astronomy please, this stuff triggers me. Edit with more will come, but I had to say that.In this life time? No. The Sun won't explode. I'm talking about later on.Please study your science carefully.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:52:56 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:46:00 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:44:31 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:43:55 PMI disagree with you.Elaborate.Well you see your entire argument is that human engineering won't find a way to negate those negative effects on us.Science is powerful bro. It's all about random chance at the end though. We're not smart enough as a species to over come many things, and there is still so much unknown out in the vast void of space. We don't even know our own planet inside out, our oceans haven't even been fully explored.We're just as clueless as the rest of the animals that walk the earth except we have a mind to adapt with instead of just wandering around like a lost animal, but even at that we still have flaws in our system.For instance, 5 years from now there is a chance that a meteorite that's the size if Manhattan New York is going to hit the earth leaving a massive crater killing all of us off in the process.I haven't heard anything about it since 2005, and to be honest that's what scares me the most then the stupid bullshit that went on with the world ending in 2012. Oh and the world actually could have ended on July 23rd of 2012 instead. We were a few inches away of our planet becoming fried matter from the sun from what I've heard. I'm not sure just how true it is, but I wouldn't be surprised.Oh, and if humanity is still alive when our sun is dying, good luck trying to survive that. It will wipe everything out of it's path when it explodes.Okay, the Sun isn't going to explode, learn astronomy please, this stuff triggers me. Edit with more will come, but I had to say that.
Quote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:46:00 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:44:31 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:43:55 PMI disagree with you.Elaborate.Well you see your entire argument is that human engineering won't find a way to negate those negative effects on us.Science is powerful bro. It's all about random chance at the end though. We're not smart enough as a species to over come many things, and there is still so much unknown out in the vast void of space. We don't even know our own planet inside out, our oceans haven't even been fully explored.We're just as clueless as the rest of the animals that walk the earth except we have a mind to adapt with instead of just wandering around like a lost animal, but even at that we still have flaws in our system.For instance, 5 years from now there is a chance that a meteorite that's the size if Manhattan New York is going to hit the earth leaving a massive crater killing all of us off in the process.I haven't heard anything about it since 2005, and to be honest that's what scares me the most then the stupid bullshit that went on with the world ending in 2012. Oh and the world actually could have ended on July 23rd of 2012 instead. We were a few inches away of our planet becoming fried matter from the sun from what I've heard. I'm not sure just how true it is, but I wouldn't be surprised.Oh, and if humanity is still alive when our sun is dying, good luck trying to survive that. It will wipe everything out of it's path when it explodes.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:44:31 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:43:55 PMI disagree with you.Elaborate.Well you see your entire argument is that human engineering won't find a way to negate those negative effects on us.Science is powerful bro.
Quote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:43:55 PMI disagree with you.Elaborate.
I disagree with you.
The era of humanity is over, the era of mutantkind begins!
Quote from: Korra Valentine on March 03, 2015, 11:05:36 PMThe era of humanity is over, the era of mutantkind begins!Obsolete.Also, there is no god. God has been obsolete for a very long time now. I'm surprised that this species still clings on to it like it can still be proven.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 11:03:36 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 03, 2015, 10:59:55 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:55:31 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 03, 2015, 10:54:18 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:52:56 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:46:00 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:44:31 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:43:55 PMI disagree with you.Elaborate.Well you see your entire argument is that human engineering won't find a way to negate those negative effects on us.Science is powerful bro. It's all about random chance at the end though. We're not smart enough as a species to over come many things, and there is still so much unknown out in the vast void of space. We don't even know our own planet inside out, our oceans haven't even been fully explored.We're just as clueless as the rest of the animals that walk the earth except we have a mind to adapt with instead of just wandering around like a lost animal, but even at that we still have flaws in our system.For instance, 5 years from now there is a chance that a meteorite that's the size if Manhattan New York is going to hit the earth leaving a massive crater killing all of us off in the process.I haven't heard anything about it since 2005, and to be honest that's what scares me the most then the stupid bullshit that went on with the world ending in 2012. Oh and the world actually could have ended on July 23rd of 2012 instead. We were a few inches away of our planet becoming fried matter from the sun from what I've heard. I'm not sure just how true it is, but I wouldn't be surprised.Oh, and if humanity is still alive when our sun is dying, good luck trying to survive that. It will wipe everything out of it's path when it explodes.Okay, the Sun isn't going to explode, learn astronomy please, this stuff triggers me. Edit with more will come, but I had to say that.In this life time? No. The Sun won't explode. I'm talking about later on.Please study your science carefully.I will cut you the fuck up, do not mess with me on this. The sun is not of sufficient mass to explode. It will enlarge to a red giant, then go to a white dwarf.If that's what you seriously believe then I do feel sorry for your great great great great great great (you get the idea) grandkids should humanity be around long enough to even witness that.No. It's the simple fact that that is literally [LITERALLY] BILLIONS of years away. Billions. Do you even understand how long that is? I certainly can't comprehend it. We would be loooong gone from Earth before we even had a chance at being fried in a supernova or be frozen from lack of heat with a white dwarf.
Obsolete.Also, there is no god. God has been obsolete for a very long time now. I'm surprised that this species still clings on to it like it can still be proven.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 11:07:38 PMQuote from: Korra Valentine on March 03, 2015, 11:05:36 PMThe era of humanity is over, the era of mutantkind begins!Obsolete.Also, there is no god. God has been obsolete for a very long time now. I'm surprised that this species still clings on to it like it can still be proven.>Homo Superiors>Obsolete Pick one. Also...>Implying that I don't pray to Magneto every night for healthy iron and zinc.
"Obsoletion" implies there is something to replace us that is more efficient or superior to us as we are.Although I would enjoy knowing that the human race will come to an end soon, I disagree with your assessment.
Quote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 11:07:29 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 11:03:36 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 03, 2015, 10:59:55 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:55:31 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 03, 2015, 10:54:18 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:52:56 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:46:00 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:44:31 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:43:55 PMI disagree with you.Elaborate.Well you see your entire argument is that human engineering won't find a way to negate those negative effects on us.Science is powerful bro. It's all about random chance at the end though. We're not smart enough as a species to over come many things, and there is still so much unknown out in the vast void of space. We don't even know our own planet inside out, our oceans haven't even been fully explored.We're just as clueless as the rest of the animals that walk the earth except we have a mind to adapt with instead of just wandering around like a lost animal, but even at that we still have flaws in our system.For instance, 5 years from now there is a chance that a meteorite that's the size if Manhattan New York is going to hit the earth leaving a massive crater killing all of us off in the process.I haven't heard anything about it since 2005, and to be honest that's what scares me the most then the stupid bullshit that went on with the world ending in 2012. Oh and the world actually could have ended on July 23rd of 2012 instead. We were a few inches away of our planet becoming fried matter from the sun from what I've heard. I'm not sure just how true it is, but I wouldn't be surprised.Oh, and if humanity is still alive when our sun is dying, good luck trying to survive that. It will wipe everything out of it's path when it explodes.Okay, the Sun isn't going to explode, learn astronomy please, this stuff triggers me. Edit with more will come, but I had to say that.In this life time? No. The Sun won't explode. I'm talking about later on.Please study your science carefully.I will cut you the fuck up, do not mess with me on this. The sun is not of sufficient mass to explode. It will enlarge to a red giant, then go to a white dwarf.If that's what you seriously believe then I do feel sorry for your great great great great great great (you get the idea) grandkids should humanity be around long enough to even witness that.No. It's the simple fact that that is literally [LITERALLY] BILLIONS of years away. Billions. Do you even understand how long that is? I certainly can't comprehend it. We would be loooong gone from Earth before we even had a chance at being fried in a supernova or be frozen from lack of heat with a white dwarf.That is unless we find ways to live underground and adapt to the harsh environment. But I wouldn't be surprise if the whole human race just got nuked overnight. There is also that possibility of countries launching nukes. Let's hope no one is really stupid enough to use them.
Quote from: Korra Valentine on March 03, 2015, 11:09:00 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 11:07:38 PMQuote from: Korra Valentine on March 03, 2015, 11:05:36 PMThe era of humanity is over, the era of mutantkind begins!Obsolete.Also, there is no god. God has been obsolete for a very long time now. I'm surprised that this species still clings on to it like it can still be proven.>Homo Superiors>Obsolete Pick one. Also...>Implying that I don't pray to Magneto every night for healthy iron and zinc.Homo Superiors are obsolete.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 11:03:36 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 03, 2015, 10:59:55 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:55:31 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 03, 2015, 10:54:18 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:52:56 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:46:00 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:44:31 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:43:55 PMI disagree with you.Elaborate.Well you see your entire argument is that human engineering won't find a way to negate those negative effects on us.Science is powerful bro. It's all about random chance at the end though. We're not smart enough as a species to over come many things, and there is still so much unknown out in the vast void of space. We don't even know our own planet inside out, our oceans haven't even been fully explored.We're just as clueless as the rest of the animals that walk the earth except we have a mind to adapt with instead of just wandering around like a lost animal, but even at that we still have flaws in our system.For instance, 5 years from now there is a chance that a meteorite that's the size if Manhattan New York is going to hit the earth leaving a massive crater killing all of us off in the process.I haven't heard anything about it since 2005, and to be honest that's what scares me the most then the stupid bullshit that went on with the world ending in 2012. Oh and the world actually could have ended on July 23rd of 2012 instead. We were a few inches away of our planet becoming fried matter from the sun from what I've heard. I'm not sure just how true it is, but I wouldn't be surprised.Oh, and if humanity is still alive when our sun is dying, good luck trying to survive that. It will wipe everything out of it's path when it explodes.Okay, the Sun isn't going to explode, learn astronomy please, this stuff triggers me. Edit with more will come, but I had to say that.In this life time? No. The Sun won't explode. I'm talking about later on.Please study your science carefully.I will cut you the fuck up, do not mess with me on this. The sun is not of sufficient mass to explode. It will enlarge to a red giant, then go to a white dwarf.If that's what you seriously believe then I do feel sorry for your great great great great great great (you get the idea) grandkids should humanity be around long enough to even witness that.Oh sweet Jesus Christ, read this.http://www.nasa.gov/audience/forstudents/9-12/features/stellar_evol_feat_912.html
Quote from: DemonicChronic on March 03, 2015, 11:04:04 PMThe universe doesn't have standards. It just does as conditions permit. The stars may not wince when you die but they don't cheer when you accomplish either. It's true.However that doesn't allude to us being obsolete. The only thing it alludes to is that we aren't 'this way' or 'that way' ultimately, and that the concept of even being obsolete is utterly meaningless.Humanity is, and that is that. You can try to measure the state of our existence and judge it in any number of subjective ways, but that doesn't mean that said state is going to be any different the instant after you've finished measuring it and forming your opinion, than it was the instant before. The only thing you taking the time to measure and judge the state of humanity has the potential to change is your mindset which is no more absolute than the fleeting human race that gave birth to it.Don't fret over impermanence. Humanity will pass but so does everything else. Animals, plants, love, hate, happiness, suffering, civilization, anarchy, the earth, the moon, and even those stars that don't even wince.Someone finally gets it.
Quote from: [Raiden] Snake on March 03, 2015, 11:08:21 PM"Obsoletion" implies there is something to replace us that is more efficient or superior to us as we are.Although I would enjoy knowing that the human race will come to an end soon, I disagree with your assessment.Unless the planet gets fried, something will replace us.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 11:09:43 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 11:07:29 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 11:03:36 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 03, 2015, 10:59:55 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:55:31 PMQuote from: Assassin 11D7 on March 03, 2015, 10:54:18 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:52:56 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:46:00 PMQuote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 10:44:31 PMQuote from: TBlocks on March 03, 2015, 10:43:55 PMI disagree with you.Elaborate.Well you see your entire argument is that human engineering won't find a way to negate those negative effects on us.Science is powerful bro. It's all about random chance at the end though. We're not smart enough as a species to over come many things, and there is still so much unknown out in the vast void of space. We don't even know our own planet inside out, our oceans haven't even been fully explored.We're just as clueless as the rest of the animals that walk the earth except we have a mind to adapt with instead of just wandering around like a lost animal, but even at that we still have flaws in our system.For instance, 5 years from now there is a chance that a meteorite that's the size if Manhattan New York is going to hit the earth leaving a massive crater killing all of us off in the process.I haven't heard anything about it since 2005, and to be honest that's what scares me the most then the stupid bullshit that went on with the world ending in 2012. Oh and the world actually could have ended on July 23rd of 2012 instead. We were a few inches away of our planet becoming fried matter from the sun from what I've heard. I'm not sure just how true it is, but I wouldn't be surprised.Oh, and if humanity is still alive when our sun is dying, good luck trying to survive that. It will wipe everything out of it's path when it explodes.Okay, the Sun isn't going to explode, learn astronomy please, this stuff triggers me. Edit with more will come, but I had to say that.In this life time? No. The Sun won't explode. I'm talking about later on.Please study your science carefully.I will cut you the fuck up, do not mess with me on this. The sun is not of sufficient mass to explode. It will enlarge to a red giant, then go to a white dwarf.If that's what you seriously believe then I do feel sorry for your great great great great great great (you get the idea) grandkids should humanity be around long enough to even witness that.No. It's the simple fact that that is literally [LITERALLY] BILLIONS of years away. Billions. Do you even understand how long that is? I certainly can't comprehend it. We would be loooong gone from Earth before we even had a chance at being fried in a supernova or be frozen from lack of heat with a white dwarf.That is unless we find ways to live underground and adapt to the harsh environment. But I wouldn't be surprise if the whole human race just got nuked overnight. There is also that possibility of countries launching nukes. Let's hope no one is really stupid enough to use them.Shit doesn't happen like that, because life isn't that action-movie like, and because people care about self preservation and don't want to kill each other off.
the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
If we're one of the most flawed animals on the planet why are we the most successful?
If there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.
Quote from: LC on March 03, 2015, 11:14:28 PMIf there's one thing that really annoys me it's when people underestimate the tenacity and ingenuity of humans.You seriously think humanity is "the shit" huh?
Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 03, 2015, 11:11:18 PMQuote from: [Raiden] Snake on March 03, 2015, 11:08:21 PM"Obsoletion" implies there is something to replace us that is more efficient or superior to us as we are.Although I would enjoy knowing that the human race will come to an end soon, I disagree with your assessment.Unless the planet gets fried, something will replace us.Not necessarily. And even if something did replace us, they wouldn't necessarily be superior to us, which wouldn't make us obsolete.