The Fate of Shitposting - A Public Opinion Poll [Version 2.0]

Alternative Facts · January 30, 2015, 02:10:16 PM

Since Psy can't write for shit thanks to Britbong education, we're going to be re-running this poll with more clear cut explanations of what each option entails. This will hopefully clear up any confusion that wording in the original poll may have caused.

Again, before you continue: The staff has NO intentions of making all examples of shitposting against the rules. Only certain threads, which are at the lowest tier of shitposting, would be impacted by any changes.

Option 1: Locking/Delete Extreme Cases of Shitposting

Shitposting, in it's entirety, would not become against the rules. However, the staff would work to crack down on extreme cases to allow more room for threads with discussion to have a chance.
Easiest option to implement, as it requires no further coding/changing of the system by Cheat and/or Isara.
Threads that would likely be locked under this new rule would include "Threads better suited as Private Messages", "Threads that do not have a clearly stated Topic/Discussion", & "Threads that are simply image and video dumps with no set topic

Examples of Threads Currently Posted that Would Be Locked

http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=25143.0
http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=25610.0
http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=25792.0
http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=25533.0
http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=18436.0
http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=25050.0

Option 2: Marking Shitpost Threads

As suggested by Dustin, this option would put an icon (For example, a skull/crossbones" next threads indicated, either by the OP or staff, as shitposting. Users who would not want to see these threads would have the option to hide them.
Threads marked as a shitpost would not count towards your post/thread creation total
Most difficult option to implement, as it requires further coding/changing of the system by Cheat and/or Isara. There is no guarantee this option is even possible at this time.
Threads marked as "Shitposts" that break more rules would still be subject to further punishments.

Option 3: Leave the System As Is

No changes would be made to staff policy regarding shitposting - some threads would be locked if needed, but it would not be a massive change.

On top of the three options above, you may also vote for "Option 4 - Other" if you have another idea for what could be done. Please only use this option if you do have another idea, as we want to get the best indication of how much support the other three options have now that any confusion has been cleared up.

Mr. Psychologist · January 30, 2015, 02:51:54 PM

Sorry to make you all vote again, but psyduck is a dipshit

Zizzy · January 30, 2015, 02:52:19 PM

I'd be perfectly happy if shitposting just wasn't a thing here.

Mat Cauthon · January 30, 2015, 03:04:25 PM

Aside from clearing up some wording, which if people didn't read in the first thread, they won't here, I don't see any difference in the options.

Mat Cauthon · January 30, 2015, 03:07:53 PM

Also, the second option is objectively the worst, as it gives the impression that shitposting is encouraged, which will just create more clutter on the forum, which is what the main issue is here in the first place.

Spoiler

Shit, could've put this all in one post,I thought someone would've responded to me >.>

Rinev · January 30, 2015, 03:10:20 PM

Like people said in the other thread, marked shitposts will most likely just encourage certain users to shit post more.

Elegiac · January 30, 2015, 03:10:34 PM

This is such a non-issue. I really am scared that this place is going to get drastically worse because of this silliness.

BaconShelf · January 30, 2015, 03:13:20 PM

Ban it entirely.

BaconShelf · January 30, 2015, 03:14:20 PM

Also, I accidentally voted the wrong option- I put other when I meant to put delete.

Oh · January 30, 2015, 03:15:23 PM

Quote from: Elegiac on January 30, 2015, 03:10:34 PM

This is such a non-issue. I really am scared that this place is going to get drastically worse because of this silliness.

that's because you're responsible for half the shitposts here.

Mega Sceptile · January 30, 2015, 03:16:00 PM

Quote from: Elegiac on January 30, 2015, 03:10:34 PM

This is such a non-issue. I really am scared that this place is going to get drastically worse because of this silliness.

it's absolutely an issue, useless members who just want to spam useless shit is an issue in any forum, and it is normally locked because no one wants to see useless shit that no one cares about being spammed.

Elegiac · January 30, 2015, 03:19:52 PM

Quote from: Simseo on January 30, 2015, 03:15:23 PM

Quote from: Elegiac on January 30, 2015, 03:10:34 PM
This is such a non-issue. I really am scared that this place is going to get drastically worse because of this silliness.
that's because you're responsible for half the shitposts here.

That's a misconception encouraged by useless little pricks such as yourself.

🂿 · January 30, 2015, 03:20:00 PM

Again. Ban shitposting!

R o c k e t · January 30, 2015, 03:28:06 PM

Quote from: Elegiac on January 30, 2015, 03:19:52 PM

Quote from: Simseo on January 30, 2015, 03:15:23 PM
Quote from: Elegiac on January 30, 2015, 03:10:34 PM
This is such a non-issue. I really am scared that this place is going to get drastically worse because of this silliness.
that's because you're responsible for half the shitposts here.
That's a misconception encouraged by useless little pricks such as yourself.

Knock it off.

Anonymous (User Deleted) · January 30, 2015, 03:40:49 PM

How do we know the mods didn't just restart the poll to achieve the outcome they wanted?

aMetroid · January 30, 2015, 03:43:47 PM

If you don't like shitposting actually comment on non-shitposts.

Mat Cauthon · January 30, 2015, 03:45:43 PM

Quote from: Kupo on January 30, 2015, 03:40:49 PM

How do we know the mods didn't just restart the poll to achieve the outcome they wanted?

After the second page of the last thread, the misconceptions had been cleared up by anyone willing to actually read, so yeah, you're right.

Alternative Facts · January 30, 2015, 03:47:58 PM

Quote from: Kupo on January 30, 2015, 03:40:49 PM

How do we know the mods didn't just restart the poll to achieve the outcome they wanted?

I was just told to rewrite it - if you have concerns, take it up with Cheat.

R o c k e t · January 30, 2015, 03:48:39 PM

Quote from: Kupo on January 30, 2015, 03:40:49 PM

How do we know the mods didn't just restart the poll to achieve the outcome they wanted?

If everyone feels the same as they did before, the results will not change, correct?

Anonymous (User Deleted) · January 30, 2015, 03:50:56 PM

Quote from: Icy on January 30, 2015, 03:47:58 PM

I was just told to rewrite it - if you have concerns, take it up with Cheat.

Ok, will do.

Quote from: Val 'Ketam on January 30, 2015, 03:48:39 PM

If everyone feels the same as they did before, the results will not change, correct?

There is so much wrong with that reasoning, I don't know where to begin.

Cheat · January 30, 2015, 03:51:21 PM

Quote from: Kupo on January 30, 2015, 03:40:49 PM

How do we know the mods didn't just restart the poll to achieve the outcome they wanted?

Then it shouldn't be that difficult to vote again for what you wanted.

Anonymous (User Deleted) · January 30, 2015, 03:52:24 PM

Quote from: Cheat on January 30, 2015, 03:51:21 PM

Quote from: Kupo on January 30, 2015, 03:40:49 PM
How do we know the mods didn't just restart the poll to achieve the outcome they wanted?
Then it shouldn't be that difficult to vote again for what you wanted.

There could very well be a different turnout for this poll.

Naoto · January 30, 2015, 03:53:18 PM

Still feel the same. Any logic used to ban 20% of shitposts can be used to ban 50% or 70% or 100%. There are no good or bad shitposts. There's just shitposting. The Flood should not be about discussion value it should be about fun.

Cheat · January 30, 2015, 03:55:31 PM

Quote from: Kupo on January 30, 2015, 03:52:24 PM

Quote from: Cheat on January 30, 2015, 03:51:21 PM
Quote from: Kupo on January 30, 2015, 03:40:49 PM
How do we know the mods didn't just restart the poll to achieve the outcome they wanted?
Then it shouldn't be that difficult to vote again for what you wanted.
There could very well be a different turnout for this poll.

Then it would most likely be attributed to misunderstanding of the first-poll's options, since I've made the announcement up at the top golden to stand out more than the previous one's link.

Which is a good thing for the forum.

Naoto · January 30, 2015, 03:57:08 PM

Quote

some threads would be locked if needed, but it would not be a massive change.

Why do I get the feeling change is coming regardless.

Anonymous (User Deleted) · January 30, 2015, 03:58:23 PM

Quote from: Cheat on January 30, 2015, 03:55:31 PM

Quote from: Kupo on January 30, 2015, 03:52:24 PM
Quote from: Cheat on January 30, 2015, 03:51:21 PM
Quote from: Kupo on January 30, 2015, 03:40:49 PM
How do we know the mods didn't just restart the poll to achieve the outcome they wanted?
Then it shouldn't be that difficult to vote again for what you wanted.
There could very well be a different turnout for this poll.
Then it would most likely be attributed to misunderstanding of the first-poll's options

It could be any number of reasons. Unless you actually ask them, we don't know that.

Sigma617 · January 30, 2015, 04:15:00 PM

Why is this even a question?

I am sick of the Flood being fucking useless for discussion.

The shitposting here is absolutely dreadful.

Mad Max · January 30, 2015, 06:06:43 PM

Quote from: Naoto on January 30, 2015, 03:53:18 PM

Still feel the same. Any logic used to ban 20% of shitposts can be used to ban 50% or 70% or 100%. There are no good or bad shitposts. There's just shitposting. The Flood should not be about discussion value it should be about fun.

But you can have fun with discussion value. Sports, movies, cars, etc. Not everything has to be "lol niggers" this and "fuck faggots" that

Naoto · January 30, 2015, 06:10:09 PM

Quote from: Mad Max on January 30, 2015, 06:06:43 PM

Quote from: Naoto on January 30, 2015, 03:53:18 PM
Still feel the same. Any logic used to ban 20% of shitposts can be used to ban 50% or 70% or 100%. There are no good or bad shitposts. There's just shitposting. The Flood should not be about discussion value it should be about fun.
But you can have fun with discussion value. Sports, movies, cars, etc. Not everything has to be "lol niggers" this and "fuck faggots" that

Yes lets talk about our favorite movies for the 12th time. Fun.
There's a reason this place dies when anarchy is up.

Mad Max · January 30, 2015, 06:11:41 PM

Quote from: Naoto on January 30, 2015, 06:10:09 PM

Quote from: Mad Max on January 30, 2015, 06:06:43 PM
Quote from: Naoto on January 30, 2015, 03:53:18 PM
Still feel the same. Any logic used to ban 20% of shitposts can be used to ban 50% or 70% or 100%. There are no good or bad shitposts. There's just shitposting. The Flood should not be about discussion value it should be about fun.
But you can have fun with discussion value. Sports, movies, cars, etc. Not everything has to be "lol niggers" this and "fuck faggots" that
Yes lets talk about our favorite movies for the 12th time. Fun.
There's a reason this place dies when anarchy is up.

Shitposting is exactly why I never post any threads of value in the Flood, because I know it'll just turn into a pile of shit if I try to discuss anything.

Poll

How Should Shitposting be Handled Going Forward?

The Fate of Shitposting - A Public Opinion Poll [Version 2.0]