The Definitive Guide to Making Anime Tolerable

CMD.exe · August 28, 2019, 12:02:04 PM

Quote from: Flee on August 28, 2019, 11:44:08 AM

Holy shit there's a lot of these things. I thought there were only like a handful.

https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Gundams_in_the_Gundam_franchise

If you want a good one Try something from the Main Timeline (Universal Century)

Quote from: Ian on August 28, 2019, 10:35:09 AM

Hey Ian, How's 'War in the Pocket' or '8th MS Team' as a starting point?
Or would the movie path be Better (Gundam Trillogy, Zeta Trillogy, CCA, and Unicorn)

Flee · August 28, 2019, 12:05:28 PM

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Ásgeirr · August 28, 2019, 12:13:49 PM

Quote from: Flee on August 28, 2019, 11:38:04 AM

Quote from: Ásgeirr on August 28, 2019, 10:20:40 AM
Have you never watched cartoons as a kid?
Sure did but anime has a very significant adult following as well and quite clearly targets older audiences too with visible blood, adult themes, sexual stuff and so on. Obviously you can't put them all in the same category but cartoons like SpongeBob are obviously not meant for the same audience as many animes.

I get it and it was a hurdle for me back in the day but i dont think its mutually exclusive

If you cant get over the cultural difference youll never tolerate the majority of anime

CMD.exe · August 28, 2019, 12:14:06 PM

Quote from: Flee on August 28, 2019, 12:10:22 PM

Quote from: CMD.exe on August 28, 2019, 12:02:04 PM
Quote from: Flee on August 28, 2019, 11:44:08 AM
Holy shit there's a lot of these things. I thought there were only like a handful.

https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Gundams_in_the_Gundam_franchise

If you want a good one Try something from the Main Timeline (Universal Century)

Best bot

Giant-ass ODSTs though

Ian · August 28, 2019, 12:22:05 PM

08th MS Team is pretty good considering it takes place around the same time as the original MSG but if you're going to watch the other stuff like Zeta, 0083, or Unicorn it's better to watch the original since that's where most of the integral cast are introduced. The UC is episodic with it's shows so a lot of the shows rely heavily on what was established in the previous series (ie people aren't going to get the Titans in Zeta if they didn't watch 0083).

Quote from: CMD.exe on August 28, 2019, 12:02:04 PM

Hey Ian, How's 'War in the Pocket' or '8th MS Team' as a starting point?

Verbatim · August 28, 2019, 12:22:23 PM

Quote from: Ian on August 28, 2019, 10:35:09 AM

1. Epsiodes 1-26
2. End of Eva
3. 1.0, 2.0, 3.0

^
genuinely kind of interested in your thoughts on this

Flee · August 28, 2019, 12:25:47 PM

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Ásgeirr · August 28, 2019, 12:26:19 PM

even evangelion, i would be damned if you gave it over 5 out of 10 because despite its serious content matter, the way its delivered would miss its mark on you

CMD.exe · August 28, 2019, 12:28:20 PM

Quote from: Ian on August 28, 2019, 12:22:05 PM

08th MS Team is pretty good considering it takes place around the same time as the original MSG but if you're going to watch the other stuff like Zeta, 0083, or Unicorn it's better to watch the original since that's where most of the integral cast are introduced. The UC is episodic with it's shows so a lot of the shows rely heavily on what was established in the previous series (ie people aren't going to get the Titans in Zeta if they didn't watch 0083).

Quote from: CMD.exe on August 28, 2019, 12:02:04 PM
Hey Ian, How's 'War in the Pocket' or '8th MS Team' as a starting point?

Yeah, that's why the second idea I dad was the two Movie Trilogies of MSG and Zeta as well as CCA and Unicorn

Ian · August 28, 2019, 12:28:54 PM

In the past I would tell people to watch the director's cuts of 21-24 and then watch End of Eva before 25 & 26 but I found that people were too confused by this. The DC of 21-24 are longer so I should expect people with common sense to seek those episodes if they were on a side by side choice with their On Air versions, although I don't know what versions of NGE people are watching, the show has had an extraordinarily tedious overseas release and it doesn't help the issue that both Gainax and Khara liked making their home media releases in Japan alone confusing (ie Death in Death & Rebirth has like three different versions called Death, Death (True), and Death (True)^2).

As with End Of Eva, it's ultimately the same ending as 25 & 26 told from a different lens. Originally I told people to watch End Of Eva first because the next time preview at the end of the director's cut for 24 shows storyboard scenes from the first half of End Of Eva. However as I said before about 25 & 26 and End Of Eva being the same, there's really no point in not watching it in release order and being able to put the pieces together yourself.

Quote from: Verbatim on August 28, 2019, 12:22:23 PM

genuinely kind of interested in your thoughts on this

Ian · August 28, 2019, 12:31:27 PM

I have both movie trilogies on DVD boxed somewhere but I don't really recommend either of them. Zeta is much worse but both cut a lot of content and will leave you confused if you don't already know the basic outline.

Quote from: CMD.exe on August 28, 2019, 12:28:20 PM

Yeah, that's why the second idea I dad was the two Movie Trilogies of MSG and Zeta as well as CCA and Unicorn

Flee · August 28, 2019, 12:31:53 PM

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CMD.exe · August 28, 2019, 12:37:47 PM

Quote from: Flee on August 28, 2019, 12:25:47 PM

1)Oh no, it's one of these shows where the leads (in a full blown war) are just high school kids. Great.

2)Random segment in the middle where girl spins around blowing bubbles at brightly colored ball creatures in the air. Why?

3) (but stop reusing shots and just panning over stills, please).

1) Child Solders is actuallt one of the staples of Gundam, this show just does it exeptionaly poorly and in the most generic way possible.

2) I DARE you to watch the English dub when these fuckers show up.

3)

Spoiler

They don't

Ian · August 28, 2019, 12:40:05 PM

That was it, but if you have Netflix they have it released on there. granted I'm not a fan of Netflix's release it's the only current official release where you don't have to go to shady websites to watch.

Quote from: Flee on August 28, 2019, 12:34:02 PM

https://www.kiss-anime.ws/Anime-neon-genesis-evangelion-1

This is it right?

CMD.exe · August 28, 2019, 12:42:44 PM

Quote from: Ian on August 28, 2019, 12:31:27 PM

I have both movie trilogies on DVD boxed somewhere but I don't really recommend either of them. Zeta is much worse but both cut a lot of content and will leave you confused if you don't already know the basic outline.

Quote from: CMD.exe on August 28, 2019, 12:28:20 PM
Yeah, that's why the second idea I dad was the two Movie Trilogies of MSG and Zeta as well as CCA and Unicorn

Oh, yikes. Just how much dod they cut? (Spoiler it in case he watches is)

~~What if we had him play 0079 War For Earth~~

Spoiler

YouTube

Verbatim · August 28, 2019, 12:42:58 PM

i feel like before you watch eva though, you have to understand that it's not really just a mecha show

without spoiling anything, the show actually has a lot to say about anime itself and the people who watch it

it's a show that requires you to be a little bit charitable, otherwise it's going to be VERY easy for you to pick it apart

i'm only saying this because i wish someone had said it to me before the first time i watched it

CMD.exe · August 28, 2019, 12:46:04 PM

Quote from: Flee on August 28, 2019, 12:34:02 PM

>Kiss-Redirects.malware

Oh no

Flee · August 28, 2019, 12:53:35 PM

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Verbatim · August 28, 2019, 12:56:05 PM

oh, you also have to watch the whole fucking thing (unless you just REALLY hate it for whatever reason)

even if you slightly like anything about it, i encourage you to continue

it's not that long either, so it's not a big deal

Verbatim · August 28, 2019, 01:07:33 PM

Quote from: Flee on August 28, 2019, 12:54:16 PM

Quote from: CMD.exe on August 28, 2019, 12:46:04 PM
Quote from: Flee on August 28, 2019, 12:34:02 PM
>Kiss-Redirects.malware

Oh no
It said it was Evangelion but it was actually Gundam, lol. I think I found one that works now though.

https://www3.123movies.la/serie/neon-genesis-evangelion-5yke5ry/s1/watching.html

Let me know if that's the right one.

this link directs me to the last episode, but other than that, looks good to me

just make sure you're on the right one

Flee · August 28, 2019, 01:09:44 PM

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Verbatim · August 28, 2019, 01:15:09 PM

Quote from: Flee on August 28, 2019, 01:09:44 PM

And you actually like this, right?

it's one of maybe three anime that i genuinely love yeah

and i've tried over three hundred

not that i wouldn't understand if you couldn't get into it—as i implied, i didn't enjoy it the first time either

Flee · August 28, 2019, 01:36:53 PM

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MarKhan · August 28, 2019, 03:40:55 PM

Quote from: Flee on August 28, 2019, 12:05:28 PM

STEP 5:

Stop throwing in random English words. I get this is supposed to be cool or something in Japan, but ugh. Just please don't.

(Damn, we're only 5 steps in and anime would already be a shit ton better if Miyazaki would just listen to reason)

YouTube

Flee · August 28, 2019, 03:54:34 PM

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Ingy · August 28, 2019, 03:56:56 PM

Also stop sexualizing 13 year old girls

MarKhan · August 28, 2019, 04:01:10 PM

Quote from: Flee on August 28, 2019, 03:54:34 PM

Quote from: MarKhan on August 28, 2019, 03:40:55 PM
Quote from: Flee on August 28, 2019, 12:05:28 PM
STEP 5:

Stop throwing in random English words. I get this is supposed to be cool or something in Japan, but ugh. Just please don't.

(Damn, we're only 5 steps in and anime would already be a shit ton better if Miyazaki would just listen to reason)
YouTube

YouTube

That's actually pretty interesting.

And scary