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Holy shit there's a lot of these things. I thought there were only like a handful.

https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Gundams_in_the_Gundam_franchise

If you want a good one Try something from the Main Timeline (Universal Century)


Hey Ian, How's 'War in the Pocket' or '8th MS Team' as a starting point?
Or would the movie path be Better (Gundam Trillogy, Zeta Trillogy, CCA, and Unicorn)
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STEP 5:

Stop throwing in random English words. I get this is supposed to be cool or something in Japan, but ugh. Just please don't.

(Damn, we're only 5 steps in and anime would already be a shit ton better if Miyazaki would just listen to reason)


 
 
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Holy shit there's a lot of these things. I thought there were only like a handful.

https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Gundams_in_the_Gundam_franchise

If you want a good one Try something from the Main Timeline (Universal Century)


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The angel agreed to trade a set of white wings for the head of another demon. Overjoyed, the demon killed one of his own and plucked the head right off its still-warm body.

The angel then led the demon to heaven, where he underwent centuries of the cruelest tortures imaginable. Finally, the pain was so great that he lost consciousness - at which point his dark wings turned the promised shade of white.
Have you never watched cartoons as a kid?
Sure did but anime has a very significant adult following as well and quite clearly targets older audiences too with visible blood, adult themes, sexual stuff and so on. Obviously you can't put them all in the same category but cartoons like SpongeBob are obviously not meant for the same audience as many animes.
I get it and it was a hurdle for me back in the day but i dont think its mutually exclusive

If you cant get over the cultural difference youll never tolerate the majority of anime
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Holy shit there's a lot of these things. I thought there were only like a handful.

https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Gundams_in_the_Gundam_franchise

If you want a good one Try something from the Main Timeline (Universal Century)


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Giant-ass ODSTs though


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Garlemald did nothing wrong.
08th MS Team is pretty good considering it takes place around the same time as the original MSG but if you're going to watch the other stuff like Zeta, 0083, or Unicorn it's better to watch the original since that's where most of the integral cast are introduced. The UC is episodic with it's shows so a lot of the shows rely heavily on what was established in the previous series (ie people aren't going to get the Titans in Zeta if they didn't watch 0083).

Hey Ian, How's 'War in the Pocket' or '8th MS Team' as a starting point?


 
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1. Epsiodes 1-26
2. End of Eva
3. 1.0, 2.0, 3.0
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genuinely kind of interested in your thoughts on this


 
 
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GUNDAM WING SEED EPISODE 1

The bad:

Intro song is really, really bad. Fuck me.
Flashbacks of him with his buddy through a rose colored lens in a garden with petals falling. Jeez.
Over the top anime voice reactions almost from the start and my god, super high pitched anime girl voice acting, wtf.
Art style is unremarkable.
Oh no, it's one of these shows where the leads (in a full blown war) are just high school kids. Great.
Bad guy is wearing some outfit completely different from the rest and some phantom of the opera style mask.
Fashion choices are predictably bad. Some random person shows up with some massive jacket and an orange beret. What.
Random segment in the middle where girl spins around blowing bubbles at brightly colored ball creatures in the air. Why?
Many shots that are just the camera panning over still images. Cutting costs, I get it, but ugh.
THE FIRST TWO SHOTS OF ACTUAL COMBAT ARE THE EXACT SAME FOOTAGE. Not even exaggerating, it's literally the same.
Bright red power ranger armor as spy stealth gear in the woods, wonderful choice.
Jeez, the lieutenant combat pilot is also a super attractive woman in unique clothing. Who would've thought.
"We're being attacked and bombed but I still have time to be all surprised and woed when the stranger I've been around all this time turns out to be a girl".
Drawn out inverted color scheme. Doesn't look good, has no impact.
Oh it's the boy from the rose pettal scene. Wouldn't have thought that in a million years.

The good:

Some shots were pretty cool, like when the three robots lined up.
The setting with the ongoing war and neutral faction is pretty good.
Art style could be worse (but stop reusing shots and just panning over stills, please).
No crazy chibi stuff so far and no really big/small characters.

I give it a 4/10 which probably places it in the top percentile by anime standards, I don't know.
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The angel agreed to trade a set of white wings for the head of another demon. Overjoyed, the demon killed one of his own and plucked the head right off its still-warm body.

The angel then led the demon to heaven, where he underwent centuries of the cruelest tortures imaginable. Finally, the pain was so great that he lost consciousness - at which point his dark wings turned the promised shade of white.
even evangelion, i would be damned if you gave it over 5 out of 10 because despite its serious content matter, the way its delivered would miss its mark on you


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08th MS Team is pretty good considering it takes place around the same time as the original MSG but if you're going to watch the other stuff like Zeta, 0083, or Unicorn it's better to watch the original since that's where most of the integral cast are introduced. The UC is episodic with it's shows so a lot of the shows rely heavily on what was established in the previous series (ie people aren't going to get the Titans in Zeta if they didn't watch 0083).

Hey Ian, How's 'War in the Pocket' or '8th MS Team' as a starting point?
Yeah, that's why the second idea I dad was the two Movie Trilogies of MSG and Zeta as well as CCA and Unicorn


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Garlemald did nothing wrong.
In the past I would tell people to watch the director's cuts of 21-24 and then watch End of Eva before 25 & 26 but I found that people were too confused by this. The DC of 21-24 are longer so I should expect people with common sense to seek those episodes if they were on a side by side choice with their On Air versions, although I don't know what versions of NGE people are watching, the show has had an extraordinarily tedious overseas release and it doesn't help the issue that both Gainax and Khara liked making their home media releases in Japan alone confusing (ie Death in Death & Rebirth has like three different versions called Death, Death (True), and Death (True)^2).

As with End Of Eva, it's ultimately the same ending as 25 & 26 told from a different lens. Originally I told people to watch End Of Eva first because the next time preview at the end of the director's cut for 24 shows storyboard scenes from the first half of End Of Eva. However as I said before about 25 & 26 and End Of Eva being the same, there's really no point in not watching it in release order and being able to put the pieces together yourself.

genuinely kind of interested in your thoughts on this
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Garlemald did nothing wrong.
I have both movie trilogies on DVD boxed somewhere but I don't really recommend either of them. Zeta is much worse but both cut a lot of content and will leave you confused if you don't already know the basic outline.

Yeah, that's why the second idea I dad was the two Movie Trilogies of MSG and Zeta as well as CCA and Unicorn


 
 
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1. Epsiodes 1-26
2. End of Eva
3. 1.0, 2.0, 3.0
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genuinely kind of interested in your thoughts on this
Alright, let's do it. Looking for a link now.


 
 
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https://www.kiss-anime.ws/Anime-neon-genesis-evangelion-1

This is it right?

Edit: wait what, the opening thing to the first episode says mobile suit gundam. Evangelion is not a gundam thing is it? I think I've got the wrong one.
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1)Oh no, it's one of these shows where the leads (in a full blown war) are just high school kids. Great.

2)Random segment in the middle where girl spins around blowing bubbles at brightly colored ball creatures in the air. Why?

3) (but stop reusing shots and just panning over stills, please).


1) Child Solders is actuallt one of the staples of Gundam, this show just does it exeptionaly poorly and in the most generic way possible.

2) I DARE you to watch the English dub when these fuckers show up.

3)
Spoiler
They don't


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Garlemald did nothing wrong.
That was it, but if you have Netflix they have it released on there. granted I'm not a fan of Netflix's release it's the only current official release where you don't have to go to shady websites to watch.

https://www.kiss-anime.ws/Anime-neon-genesis-evangelion-1

This is it right?


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I have both movie trilogies on DVD boxed somewhere but I don't really recommend either of them. Zeta is much worse but both cut a lot of content and will leave you confused if you don't already know the basic outline.

Yeah, that's why the second idea I dad was the two Movie Trilogies of MSG and Zeta as well as CCA and Unicorn

Oh, yikes. Just how much dod they cut? (Spoiler it in case he watches is)

What if we had him play 0079 War For Earth
Spoiler
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i feel like before you watch eva though, you have to understand that it's not really just a mecha show

without spoiling anything, the show actually has a lot to say about anime itself and the people who watch it

it's a show that requires you to be a little bit charitable, otherwise it's going to be VERY easy for you to pick it apart

i'm only saying this because i wish someone had said it to me before the first time i watched it


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i feel like before you watch eva though, you have to understand that it's not really just a mecha show

without spoiling anything, the show actually has a lot to say about anime itself and the people who watch it

it's a show that requires you to be a little bit charitable, otherwise it's going to be VERY easy for you to pick it apart

i'm only saying this because i wish someone had said it to me before the first time i watched it
Noted.


 
 
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>Kiss-Redirects.malware

Oh no
It said it was Evangelion but it was actually Gundam, lol. I think I found one that works now though.

https://www3.123movies.la/serie/neon-genesis-evangelion-5yke5ry/s1/watching.html

Let me know if that's the right one.


 
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oh, you also have to watch the whole fucking thing (unless you just REALLY hate it for whatever reason)

even if you slightly like anything about it, i encourage you to continue

it's not that long either, so it's not a big deal
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>Kiss-Redirects.malware

Oh no
It said it was Evangelion but it was actually Gundam, lol. I think I found one that works now though.

https://www3.123movies.la/serie/neon-genesis-evangelion-5yke5ry/s1/watching.html

Let me know if that's the right one.
this link directs me to the last episode, but other than that, looks good to me

just make sure you're on the right one


 
 
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oh, you also have to watch the whole fucking thing (unless you just REALLY hate it for whatever reason)

even if you slightly like anything about it, i encourage you to continue

it's not that long either, so it's not a big deal
I'll try. Might take me some time though.

And you actually like this, right?


 
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And you actually like this, right?
it's one of maybe three anime that i genuinely love yeah

and i've tried over three hundred

not that i wouldn't understand if you couldn't get into it—as i implied, i didn't enjoy it the first time either
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EVANGELION EPISODE 1:

BAD:

Intro is really bad. Bad song and really cliche shots. This one goes the extra mile by adding in the really fast transitions and flashing shots of text. I also saw it in that preview someone linked in the other thread, so I guess it's just a thing this show does. Really not good at all.
Robot design. Like I said earlier, too skinny and too long arms.
Blank / white glasses trope.
"Hey you almost got stepped on by this huge monster, let me crack a joke when I show up to collect you with my car".
The dumb shot of them just hanging out of the car with their mouths open as the shockwave blows past.
Is his teacher hitting on him? (Oh wait it's apparently not his teacher but still)
The background going black, jazzy song coming on for sad internal monologue.
Ugh, it's the exaggerated face with the sweat drop and annoyed look.
Repeated use of the same shots.
(Schoolkid has to get in the one of a kind combat robot that's humanity's last hope to defeat the monster. I suppose there'll be some kind of an explanation but it's pretty dumb so far, yet I won't hold it against it).
Every woman is super sexual, super attractive and in some high government position.
Voice acting and general reactions during the show are typical anime and pretty annoying.
Outro is also pretty bad, but could be worse.

GOOD:

Some pretty cool shots. All the tanks lined up at the start, car getting knocked over by the blast, monster grabbing the rocket...
Not too many annoying things, really. A few here and there but it's so far tolerable.
Story and setting seem good.
Art style's decent (but robots look pretty bad, unfortunately).

RATING: 4.5/10. It's like a mirror of Gundam. Very similar so far, but it deserves that extra half point for not using the same combat shot twice in literally 10 seconds (granted, there hasn't really been any combat yet but still) and for having slightly better character design.


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Apathy is death
STEP 5:

Stop throwing in random English words. I get this is supposed to be cool or something in Japan, but ugh. Just please don't.

(Damn, we're only 5 steps in and anime would already be a shit ton better if Miyazaki would just listen to reason)
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STEP 5:

Stop throwing in random English words. I get this is supposed to be cool or something in Japan, but ugh. Just please don't.

(Damn, we're only 5 steps in and anime would already be a shit ton better if Miyazaki would just listen to reason)
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YouTube

That's actually pretty interesting.


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Also stop sexualizing 13 year old girls


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Apathy is death
STEP 5:

Stop throwing in random English words. I get this is supposed to be cool or something in Japan, but ugh. Just please don't.

(Damn, we're only 5 steps in and anime would already be a shit ton better if Miyazaki would just listen to reason)
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YouTube

That's actually pretty interesting.
And scary