Quote from: DemonicChronic on November 02, 2014, 06:57:19 AMQuote from: Zizzy on November 02, 2014, 06:27:02 AMBecause there's a clear divide between here and bungie.The whole "this place is better" attitude needs to stop if you want to see change. The fact that mods are using derogatory terms to even describe the site (see: title of this thread) is something that contributes to the elitist attitude people associate with this place. It's one of the big reasons people don't want to join. I have no qualms with users. Bungie itself however is another matter. It doesn't take a genius to see what happened to that company and its attitude towards the community. As a derogatory term, "activision.net" says nothing about the userbase that still visits that site.Still, if they had taken to giving some name to Cheat, how would we feel?The fact that everyone here acts like this place is superior in every way to Bungie.net is really unattractive to some people. It gives a feeling that it's either here or there, there's no in-between. As such, it creates a sense of elitism among the users. "Enjoy your shitty, buggy site idiots". That's what it's like.And like it or not, this place is dependent to a good extent on Bungie.net. What is it that Sep7agon offers people that aren't from Bungie? This place is pretty much made to cater for current/past members of that site, so if we want to actually keep the place going we'd probably not want to piss them off at every turn.So here's the deal : how about we cut out all this "b.lind,/activision.net, etc" bullshit and just treat b.net as a different forum. Not inferior, just different. See what happens.SpoilerAlso, I don't know everything that people from here post over there, but I highly suspect it also has something to do with it.
Quote from: Zizzy on November 02, 2014, 06:27:02 AMBecause there's a clear divide between here and bungie.The whole "this place is better" attitude needs to stop if you want to see change. The fact that mods are using derogatory terms to even describe the site (see: title of this thread) is something that contributes to the elitist attitude people associate with this place. It's one of the big reasons people don't want to join. I have no qualms with users. Bungie itself however is another matter. It doesn't take a genius to see what happened to that company and its attitude towards the community. As a derogatory term, "activision.net" says nothing about the userbase that still visits that site.
Because there's a clear divide between here and bungie.The whole "this place is better" attitude needs to stop if you want to see change. The fact that mods are using derogatory terms to even describe the site (see: title of this thread) is something that contributes to the elitist attitude people associate with this place. It's one of the big reasons people don't want to join.
Quote from: Zizzy on November 02, 2014, 07:27:00 AMStill, if they had taken to giving some name to Cheat, how would we feel?The fact that everyone here acts like this place is superior in every way to Bungie.net is really unattractive to some people. It gives a feeling that it's either here or there, there's no in-between. As such, it creates a sense of elitism among the users. "Enjoy your shitty, buggy site idiots". That's what it's like.And like it or not, this place is dependent to a good extent on Bungie.net. What is it that Sep7agon offers people that aren't from Bungie? This place is pretty much made to cater for current/past members of that site, so if we want to actually keep the place going we'd probably not want to piss them off at every turn.So here's the deal : how about we cut out all this "b.lind,/activision.net, etc" bullshit and just treat b.net as a different forum. Not inferior, just different. See what happens.SpoilerAlso, I don't know everything that people from here post over there, but I highly suspect it also has something to do with it. I don't know about "everyone here" but I'm just me, and like I just said 20 or so minutes ago, I have no qualms with the userbase of b.net. (ergo I don't go around calling them idiots). I'm also not concerned with whether or not they love or hate this place.Again, I'm just wondering why we're still relevant over there.
Still, if they had taken to giving some name to Cheat, how would we feel?The fact that everyone here acts like this place is superior in every way to Bungie.net is really unattractive to some people. It gives a feeling that it's either here or there, there's no in-between. As such, it creates a sense of elitism among the users. "Enjoy your shitty, buggy site idiots". That's what it's like.And like it or not, this place is dependent to a good extent on Bungie.net. What is it that Sep7agon offers people that aren't from Bungie? This place is pretty much made to cater for current/past members of that site, so if we want to actually keep the place going we'd probably not want to piss them off at every turn.So here's the deal : how about we cut out all this "b.lind,/activision.net, etc" bullshit and just treat b.net as a different forum. Not inferior, just different. See what happens.SpoilerAlso, I don't know everything that people from here post over there, but I highly suspect it also has something to do with it.
Have a look at some of the threads, they're laughing at us.
I'm also not concerned with whether or not they love or hate this place.
Quote from: Zizzy on November 02, 2014, 07:54:12 AMHave a look at some of the threads, they're laughing at us.QuoteI'm also not concerned with whether or not they love or hate this place.
But you are concerned about why they still care, which is what I explained.