I've tried exercise, skipping meals, and counting calories and nothing has worked

I've been wanting to avoid a no-carb diet but I don't have any other choices at this point. And I hear atkins works wonders.

Anyway, I'm going to save this thread so I can compare the before and after

Current weight and estimated BF%?

I do keto seasonally, starting after the holiday. It's very effective, especially when paired with intermittent fasting. It takes about a week to get into ketosis (or induction, I think is what its called in Atkins) and from there you have to be pretty careful about carbs, but in general you're basically free to eat a shitload of eggs and bacon. I found it also completely eliminated cravings for sugary foods in a few days.

Current weight and estimated BF%?

I do keto seasonally, starting after the holiday. It's very effective, especially when paired with intermittent fasting. It takes about a week to get into ketosis (or induction, I think is what its called in Atkins) and from there you have to be pretty careful about carbs, but in general you're basically free to eat a shitload of eggs and bacon. I found it also completely eliminated cravings for sugary foods in a few days.

BF?

I weigh like 170 or 180, way too much

hopefully I can lose a good 30 pounds at least

Quote from: Aether on November 13, 2016, 05:19:15 PM

You want to be skinnier?

You start losing what little fat you have and you're going to be very unhealthy and probably look like ass as well.

Just a heads up.

Um yeah? I'm chubby.

How does getting thin make me unhealthy? Atkins also clears up your skin complexion, which will be good.

Chubby where? Definitely not in your face. Is your body fat located disproportionately somewhere else?

As for skin complexion. Managing sugar intake helps wonders with that.

Quote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 05:23:20 PM

Quote from: Aether on November 13, 2016, 05:19:15 PM

You want to be skinnier?

You start losing what little fat you have and you're going to be very unhealthy and probably look like ass as well.

Just a heads up.

Um yeah? I'm chubby.

How does getting thin make me unhealthy? Atkins also clears up your skin complexion, which will be good.

Chubby where? Definitely not in your face. Is your body fat located disproportionately somewhere else?

As for skin complexion. Managing sugar intake helps wonders with that.

No, in my face. It's way too fucking flabby.

And yeah, you cut out all sugar with atkins.

No, in my face. It's way too fucking flabby.

And yeah, you cut out all sugar with atkins.

Your face isn't flabby it just looks like that because of weak facial structure and possibly salt intake

Quote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 05:30:12 PM

No, in my face. It's way too fucking flabby.

And yeah, you cut out all sugar with atkins.

Your face isn't flabby it just looks like that because of weak facial structure and possibly salt intake

um okay? kinda rude but w/e

Quote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 05:30:12 PM

Quote from: Aether on November 13, 2016, 05:26:38 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 05:23:20 PM

Quote from: Aether on November 13, 2016, 05:19:15 PM

You want to be skinnier?

You start losing what little fat you have and you're going to be very unhealthy and probably look like ass as well.

Just a heads up.

Um yeah? I'm chubby.

How does getting thin make me unhealthy? Atkins also clears up your skin complexion, which will be good.

Chubby where? Definitely not in your face. Is your body fat located disproportionately somewhere else?

As for skin complexion. Managing sugar intake helps wonders with that.

No, in my face. It's way too fucking flabby.

And yeah, you cut out all sugar with atkins.

If your face is flabby then the concrete in driveway is flabby.

Also, cutting all sugar and significantly reducing carbs is not healthy either and can put you into ketosis which can make you chronically fatigued and deteriorates your muscles over extended periods.

no it definitely is

and do you know how atkins works? The point is to go into ketosis. I hate muscles and I'm already pretty depressed and fatigued anyway so it's nbd

no it definitely is

and do you know how atkins works? The point is to go into ketosis. I hate muscles and I'm already pretty depressed and fatigued anyway so it's nbd

And I'm telling you that ketosis isn't healthy. You're literally choosing to feel worse and physically damage your body for some skewed sense of attractiveness. And it is obviously skewed because the stance on your appearance by the others in this thread with normal standards is that you're already skinny.

I've been in ketosis for months due to taking extreme measures combating my health issues and I can tell you it feels terrible.

post a full body pic im curious

I suck at taking/posing for photos but whatever

Quote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 05:52:01 PM

no it definitely is

and do you know how atkins works? The point is to go into ketosis. I hate muscles and I'm already pretty depressed and fatigued anyway so it's nbd

And I'm telling you that ketosis isn't healthy. You're literally choosing to feel worse and physically damage your body for some skewed sense of attractiveness. And it is obviously skewed because the stance on your appearance by the others in this thread with normal standards is that you're already skinny.

I've been in ketosis for months due to taking extreme measures combating my health issues and I can tell you it feels terrible.

more like you're tricking your body into aggressively attacking fat cells, which is not a bad thing

even if atkins is unhealthy, who cares? I'd rather look cute than be healthy

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.

Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what

Anyways you're 6'3" and like 170 which is pretty thin but you CAN afford to get skinnier. The problem with people with your skinny/fat dismorphia is that you think you're fat, and you actually ARE in terms of body composition. Just because you're skinny doesnt mean you don't carry lots off fat.

But the problem comes in because you don't have any muscle, so you can get unhealthily skinny (dangerous) but still see flab and that messes with your head.

And for facial bloat, you probably eat lots of sodium. Also high estrogen makes you retain water in the face. Some people also just have a genetic predisposition to hold more fat/water in the face. And like Gatsby said you have weak facial structure/bones so you're going to look softer no matter what

tell me about it

I do like salt, but I never thought I consumed it in excess. And I'm not on hormones or anything, so I don't know how estrogen factors in. Thanks a lot for fucking parroting that shit that gatsby said though, especially since I can't do shit about it. Really appreciate it dude.

As long as I have flab, I can't be too skinny, retard.

Hahahaha, i don't know why but you look so weird to me.

Yes you do, I'm gross. I'm doing all I fucking can, jesus.

I've personally found this site to be incredibly helpful, loads of good workouts without any need for equipment. It's better if you can find a pullup bar but you'll still make a lot of progress if you stick to a schedule with this. The site does all the thinking for you, and even gives you mealplans if you want to go that far.

AND IT'S FREE

the only exercises I do are cardio/sit ups

why the fuck would I want a pullup bar? I'm trying to minimize my musculature

more like you're tricking your body into aggressively attacking fat cells, which is not a bad thing

even if atkins is unhealthy, who cares? I'd rather look cute than be healthy

Mind and body are interconnected, when you feel like shit physically you will mentally as well. Vanity can't overcome that.

Do as you wish. You'll have to face the reality of your choices regardless.

Quote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:19:28 PM

more like you're tricking your body into aggressively attacking fat cells, which is not a bad thing

even if atkins is unhealthy, who cares? I'd rather look cute than be healthy

Mind and body are interconnected, when you feel like shit physically you will mentally as well. Vanity can't overcome that.

Do as you wish. You'll have to face the reality of your choices regardless.

untrue, all that matters is reality

if I feel tired/lethargic (like I do already), but I'm thin then I'll be content

Quote from: Aether on November 13, 2016, 07:02:18 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 13, 2016, 06:19:28 PM

more like you're tricking your body into aggressively attacking fat cells, which is not a bad thing

even if atkins is unhealthy, who cares? I'd rather look cute than be healthy

Mind and body are interconnected, when you feel like shit physically you will mentally as well. Vanity can't overcome that.

Do as you wish. You'll have to face the reality of your choices regardless.

untrue, all that matters is reality

if I feel tired/lethargic (like I do already), but I'm thin then I'll be content

It's entirely axiomatic even if you deny it.

Your body is an interconnected metabolic system and altering one part of it effects the rest. Especially nutritionally. Lethargy is only the beginning. The longer you abstain for getting the vitamins and nutrients you need the more you will break down physically and the greater your mentality will deteriorate in turn.

You might attain some level of contentedness, but how long can it last?