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Now a lot of critics are saying TLJ is the best, even better than Empire.
I really can't understand how professional critics are saying this.
Well one thing I've heard is it doesn't go the way you think it will. Just like Luke said in the trailer. So that sounds good to me. My friend said he liked it but wouldn't call it amazing. Saying he felt things TFA was building up too are just handled too easily and thrown out. I'm not sure how I feel about that. I'll have to see it first.


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The new trilogy lacks a good villain, I think. The Emperor was the ultimate evil, you knew he was there pulling shit the entire time.


I do like Kylo Ren but a leading main villain he is not.
That would be Snoke correct? Or someone else they could show later. Depending on how many movies this story lasts.


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The new trilogy lacks a good villain, I think. The Emperor was the ultimate evil, you knew he was there pulling shit the entire time.


I do like Kylo Ren but a leading main villain he is not.
That would be Snoke correct? Or someone else they could show later. Depending on how many movies this story lasts.

Yeah Snoke is amazing

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Until he just fucking dies, wtf


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Now a lot of critics are saying TLJ is the best, even better than Empire.
I really can't understand how professional critics are saying this.
Well one thing I've heard is it doesn't go the way you think it will. Just like Luke said in the trailer. So that sounds good to me. My friend said he liked it but wouldn't call it amazing. Saying he felt things TFA was building up too are just handled too easily and thrown out. I'm not sure how I feel about that. I'll have to see it first.
I feel like everyone is going to talk about those plot twists when discussing the movie, but I don't really feel like there's a good movie around them. It's like when say they liked Rogue One but only bring up how good the Darth Vader scene was.


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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
Goddamn I love Attack of the Clones, I feel like watching it now lmao


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the whole film felt like Rian Johnson showing just how empty and derivative JJ's era was and trying to turn it into something interesting.

"Snoke is a Palpatine ripoff. He's dead now, and his death services the character of Kylo Ren"

"Rey's parents are junkies also stop asking it isn't important"


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the whole film felt like Rian Johnson showing just how empty and derivative JJ's era was and trying to turn it into something interesting.

"Snoke is a Palpatine ripoff. He's dead now, and his death services the character of Kylo Ren"

"Rey's parents are junkies also stop asking it isn't important"
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Yeah, it felt like it was trying to change up a lot of the OT-like landscape that TFA gave us, like the whole Emperor-Apprentice dynamic or the Boba Fett-type character.


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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
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the whole film felt like Rian Johnson showing just how empty and derivative JJ's era was and trying to turn it into something interesting.

"Snoke is a Palpatine ripoff. He's dead now, and his death services the character of Kylo Ren"

"Rey's parents are junkies also stop asking it isn't important"
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Yeah, it felt like it was trying to change up a lot of the OT-like landscape that TFA gave us, like the whole Emperor-Apprentice dynamic or the Boba Fett-type character.

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It didn't really change the Boba Fett type character, in fact it even copied it. Shows up in one movie, does fuck all, dies in the next.


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The guys sitting next to me were the embodiment of the cretins that RLM makes fun of all the time.

When R2-D2 was son screen the guy to my immediate left gasped and whispered "R2!"

I wanted to learn over and say I his ear "he was in the last fucking movie dumbass"


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The guys sitting next to me were the embodiment of the cretins that RLM makes fun of all the time.

When R2-D2 was son screen the guy to my immediate left gasped and whispered "R2!"

I wanted to learn over and say I his ear "he was in the last fucking movie dumbass"
I didn't get anyone that obnoxious when I went (a couple people did start clapping at the end though), but

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Something I found amusing was at the end of Luke and Kylo's confrontation, when Luke disappeared and was shown to be on the island some little kids in front of me started punching the air, clearly pleased that Luke had survived the encounter and "beaten" Kylo Ren.

And then he died.


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The guys sitting next to me were the embodiment of the cretins that RLM makes fun of all the time.

When R2-D2 was son screen the guy to my immediate left gasped and whispered "R2!"

I wanted to learn over and say I his ear "he was in the last fucking movie dumbass"
I KNOW WHAT THAT IS


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the movie was too quippy, at times it felt almost like an MCU movie. The worst parts were the opening with Hux, and the porg stuff, although I must admit I chuckled when it cut from chewie eating one to a group of them staring at him.

I laughed out loud at super Leia, and can't believe no one else did. By far the most retarded moment in the film for me, but overall I enjoyed the movie a lot more than TFA, which I struggle to watch nowadays.
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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
The guys sitting next to me were the embodiment of the cretins that RLM makes fun of all the time.

When R2-D2 was son screen the guy to my immediate left gasped and whispered "R2!"

I wanted to learn over and say I his ear "he was in the last fucking movie dumbass"

BRUH THAT'S BULLYING



 
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holy shit so glad I live in north england where people don’t clap at the end of movies

I even went to midnight release and it was filled with normal functioning adults


 
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holy shit so glad I live in north england where people don’t clap at the end of movies
can someone explain to me what's so bad about doing this

not that i ever do, but i certainly don't have any problem with others doing it, because literally who cares


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holy shit this movie sucked

literally step above attack of the clones


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literally step above attack of the clones
my thought exactly


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I liked Rouge One. I think the prequels are pretty trash. CGI was laughable, acting was bad. Especially Annakin. IMO, TFA was the best Star Wars behind Empire Strikes Back. Now a lot of critics are saying TLJ is the best, even better than Empire. Something has people salty with this movie. Really divisive so far.
It pushes the sequel era more into being its own thing than being held down by the OT, with a lot of new, weird things. I love the direction they took with this film but for others I can see the change being quite jarring, or not what they wanted.
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dude tlj was just empire backwards with a little roj sprinkled in the middle
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the whole film felt like Rian Johnson showing just how empty and derivative JJ's era was and trying to turn it into something interesting.

"Snoke is a Palpatine ripoff. He's dead now, and his death services the character of Kylo Ren"

"Rey's parents are junkies also stop asking it isn't important"

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Agree with pretty much all that except Rey's parents.  I think that was just Kylo fucking with Rey mentally to get her to join him in his "Nothing fucking matters anymore" crusade.


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I haven't been this conflicted on a movie since Evangelion 3.0, that's really saying something.

There were parts in the movie that were absolutely good and made for a great story, but there were other parts that were the shittiest thing Disney could possibly throw out and really bogs it down. I don't really know where to start. The interaction between Kylo and Rey was flawless, really well executed, I feel Kylo's character has been mostly redeemed from his shitty whiny brat version in TFA. And their scenes were plenty to keep the movie going.

But then there's shit like Snoke dying like a fucking nobody, Space Casino monster chase, Captain three minutes of screen time getting even LESS screen time and still treated like she's somehow fucking important. It's really fucking noticeable when half the movie's run time is devoted to one situation the rebels are in. Every Star Wars movie has been a series of smaller adventures that encompass the bigger picture, but instead we get this bland huge problem in which most of the cast revolves around; I started to groan every time it cut away from Rey/Luke/Kylo because I legitimately have zero fucking interest in Fin and that literal who that joined the main cast of the film.

TFA even got that right. We go from escaping Jakku, to running into Han and Chewie, to trying to find the Resistance, to infiltrating Starkiller Base, to finding Luke. All situation they need to resolve but none of them overstayed their welcome like the cruiser chase plot did in this movie.

The movie is just so jarring, and I think the worst thing is that I can tell they were trying to do something different and unexpected (probably because TFA got a lot of shit for being too much like ANH) but they didn't want to fully commit so they half-assed it and it came out noticeably impacted by it. All of the different moments where they could have committed to something that pulls the rug out from under you but didn't are very obvious and I would've applauded them had they fully gone through with each and everyone but they don't, they copped out every time. Rey venturing to the dark side, KILLING fucking Leia, Rey going with Kylo's plan, killing Finn (that would've made the movie an instant 10/10), Kylo turning back to Ben, they could've done any of these things but chose not too. I hope they're lack of action on these was more caused by spending too much fucking time with the damn cruiser chase.

It's not as bad as Rogue One

Rogue One's only flaws were the overdone fan service and the disgustingly horrible casting choices. It still felt like a Star Wars movie whereas this only felt like Star Wars half the time.


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Who was Supreme Leader Snoke? Who knows! The filmmakers sure don't.

Was he Plageuis? Sure, who cares? Not Disney.


 
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Boy that'd be cool with the Rey and Kylo thing


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I haven't been this conflicted on a movie since Evangelion 3.0, that's really saying something.

There were parts in the movie that were absolutely good and made for a great story, but there were other parts that were the shittiest thing Disney could possibly throw out and really bogs it down. I don't really know where to start. The interaction between Kylo and Rey was flawless, really well executed, I feel Kylo's character has been mostly redeemed from his shitty whiny brat version in TFA. And their scenes were plenty to keep the movie going.

But then there's shit like Snoke dying like a fucking nobody, Space Casino monster chase, Captain three minutes of screen time getting even LESS screen time and still treated like she's somehow fucking important. It's really fucking noticeable when half the movie's run time is devoted to one situation the rebels are in. Every Star Wars movie has been a series of smaller adventures that encompass the bigger picture, but instead we get this bland huge problem in which most of the cast revolves around; I started to groan every time it cut away from Rey/Luke/Kylo because I legitimately have zero fucking interest in Fin and that literal who that joined the main cast of the film.

TFA even got that right. We go from escaping Jakku, to running into Han and Chewie, to trying to find the Resistance, to infiltrating Starkiller Base, to finding Luke. All situation they need to resolve but none of them overstayed their welcome like the cruiser chase plot did in this movie.

The movie is just so jarring, and I think the worst thing is that I can tell they were trying to do something different and unexpected (probably because TFA got a lot of shit for being too much like ANH) but they didn't want to fully commit so they half-assed it and it came out noticeably impacted by it. All of the different moments where they could have committed to something that pulls the rug out from under you but didn't are very obvious and I would've applauded them had they fully gone through with each and everyone but they don't, they copped out every time. Rey venturing to the dark side, KILLING fucking Leia, Rey going with Kylo's plan, killing Finn (that would've made the movie an instant 10/10), Kylo turning back to Ben, they could've done any of these things but chose not too. I hope they're lack of action on these was more caused by spending too much fucking time with the damn cruiser chase.

It's not as bad as Rogue One

Rogue One's only flaws were the overdone fan service and the disgustingly horrible casting choices. It still felt like a Star Wars movie whereas this only felt like Star Wars half the time.
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this film did so many 180°s that by the end I was just imagining what a conventional storyteller wouldn't do and then it happened

just because it isn't mainstream doesn't mean it isn't predictable, Disney

also you're fired for criticizing Disney


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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
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I am extremely conflicted. Its best parts were better than TFA's, but its worst was much worse than TFA. Part of me wants to chalk it up to TFA being really safe and sticking to a tepid plot and sequencing while TLJ tried something new and got mixed results; part of me wants to blame it on middle-itis, where it has to service as the middleman between the first movie and last (exasperated by this shift from the first movie relying on the older cast while the next one doesn't use them nearly at all) before it can be its own film; part of me wants to blame Disney for drawing out the funny bits (the Hux and Poe bit at the start should have ended after the first Poe retort if it was there at all) and making the movie too quippy in general; part of me wants to blame spotty direction and a subpar script that gave us the illusion of twists, but moved really only moved the story a few yards a head in a bee-line; and part of me wants to understand why some of the bizarre choices, like Super Leia, were made. And honestly, it feels like a mix of everything above.

But, in the end, I am two hours out from watching the movie and the good parts are sticking a lot more than the bad. TFA goes through the motions, being a stock Star Wars film that gets a bit boring to watch on the 10th viewing; TLJ has some outstanding parts intercut with sequences I'd probably prefer to fast forward over.

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And legacy be damned, they should have killed Leia off then and there. She did absolutely nothing the rest of the film (literally asking why people expect her to do something at the end), and given Carrie Fisher's deadness, we know she can't do anything radically important in Episode 9. It was a super lame scene that only served to blue ball the audience instead of capitalizing the statement that the movie is making: this is the new generation of Star Wars, and it's not going to use the OT or PT as a crutch. Instead, it was the first of many unfulfilling plot twists.


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Who was Supreme Leader Snoke? Who knows! The filmmakers sure don't.

Was he Plageuis? Sure, who cares? Not Disney.

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JJ sure as hell didn't. He made a Palpatine ripoff; just like every other mystery box in TFA, it only concealed thin air and Rian knew that. We weren't going to get anything new or interesting out of Snoke that we couldn't get from a tie-in novel.

Snoke is boring. If he were Plaguis that would be stupid.

Him dying changes the situation a lot, and makes things more interesting. Now Kylo has surpassed Vader in just one way: he was able to kill and overthrow the lord he swore fealty to.
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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
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That ending shot with the Force using kid felt tacked on purely to set him up in a later film. Ugh.