Quote from: Jono on December 19, 2015, 02:55:18 PM

Quote from: Ganon on December 19, 2015, 02:52:49 PM

Quote from: Jono on December 19, 2015, 02:49:30 PM

I cannot wait to see Luke train Rey in Ep 8. Yoda training Luke was was one of my favorite segments from Empire Strikes Back and I hope in Ep 8, we see Yoda and Obi Wan force ghosts to tell Rey some things about the Force.

We won't. Alec Guiness died some time ago, and I'm sure I'm on the same page as the producers of Ep. 8 when I say that I'd rather not see a half-assed attempt of recasting  or CGI-ing him.

Also, there's no need to spoiler-tag stuff. There's already a spoiler tag in the OP.

There's nothing wrong with using Ewan McGregor as Obi Wan. He played the character extremely well in the prequels.

If they are able to successfully make Ewan look exactly like Alec and Obi Wan and Yoda make an appearance in 8 that would be incredible... My god that idea.

He deserves a spinoff

Also, Ren doesn't have that much training. He's no  blademaster by any means.

On a side note one of the main gripes I had about the film is the transitioning of Finn from the First Order to the Resistance.

I mean hating the neo-empire is one thing, but they made him cross the line a little too fast. He went from holding a comrade in Saving Private Ryan type moment to indiscriminately shanking his former squadmates on a laser sword within all of about half a day.

Is he hesitant to kill? Is he not? You'd think he'd feel some shred of sympathy for the people he trained with his entire life based on how he reacts right up to the TIE escape scene where he starts blasting the hangar crew. He even said it himself, he's just one among countless orphans stolen and raised by the FO since birth. So he levels with the other Troopers to some degree and isn't a sociopath.

He's a great character, and John Boyega stole the show IMO, but the way his character development was handled was just jarring.

Nothing I've said has been contrarian

But like, no one should give a shit about Halo anymore anyways. At least not in comparison to Star Wars.

The basic handling, therefore, would be extremely hilt-heavy. The natural balance point is probably all the way back inside the user's grip.

As you correctly point out, this would make the blade extremely hard to 'feel'. This goes a long way to explain why only Jedi wield lightsabers. (This also explains the usefulness of the training remotes; they cure the tendency to overcorrect the blade. The first lesson Jedi are taught is to discard their physical senses and feel the blade position with the Force. Clearly this is not just a teaching style but a practical necessity.)

Jedi must develop extremely strong wrists. This is not a problem; like medieval knights, Jedi begin training at a very early age, including lightsaber training from day one. Clearly this is, in part, to build wrist and arm muscle. Note that Luke - who does not have this training - consistently uses his lightsaber two-handed at first. He doesn't (and clearly can't) use it one-handed until he's gained much more experience and practice.

The heavy two-handed styles in common use in the original trilogy are clearly, therefore, a matter of control. As with real longswords, the extra hand on the hilt provides control and direction, not power. (Lucas directed the actors in the original trilogy to behave as if the blades were extremely heavy... hence the kendo-like styles. This makes sense; an old man and a wounded cyborg would no longer have their youthful wrist strength and control, and would have to be cautious.)

These drawbacks conceal advantages in disguise. Sure, they're a problem in a swordfight. But Jedi aren't primarily duellists, they're police. Their 'typical opponent' is a room full of people with blasters. The blade-light overcorrection that harms 'feel' in the bind also gives you rapid tip movement to stop a flying blaster bolt - if you have a Force sense telling you where the tip should go.

(Note that Sith, who typically do expect other swordsmen as enemies, frequently seem to wipe the floor with Jedi in a straight swordfight. Compare Dooku's tight, defensive style - and note the curved hilt of his lightsaber, letting him keep the blade forward without pronation of the wrist. Likewise, Maul's staff-style avoids the whole 'feel' problem, at the cost of reach - and an intense danger of cutting off his own leg.)

This is why non-force users don't wield lightsabers - without the precise Force sense of blade location and combat movement, they're likely to overcorrect and hurt themselves. And without the intense training, they wouldn't have the strength and stamina to control it. (This is canon; note that in the EU, Talon Karrde considers the lightsaber at Luke's belt to be proof of his identity by itself. "You were either Luke Skywalker, Jedi, or else someone with a taste for antiques and an insufferably high opinion of his swordsmanship." Clearly, without Force training it's not possible to develop sufficient control to use the saber effectively.)

Quote from: Ganon on December 19, 2015, 03:11:16 PM

But like, no one should give a shit about Halo anymore anyways.

Kill yourself.

Quote from: Korra on December 19, 2015, 05:11:40 PM

Quote from: Ganon on December 19, 2015, 03:11:16 PM

But like, no one should give a shit about Halo anymore anyways.

Kill yourself.

Halo is dad