I guess most of The Flood still hasn't seen Disney's Pixar's Marvel's Star Wars: Solo: A Star Wars Story, A Disney Production yet. Can anyone give me a verdict on whether or not to see it based on my opinion that The Last Jedi was a fucking dumpster fire?
I don't like how they neutered Han Solo. He wasn't a macho male role model who initiates the plot but rather a one-sided comic relief character who was just along for the ride. I found every other character in the movie more interesting than him.
Quote from: Chakas on May 26, 2018, 09:12:28 AMI don't like how they neutered Han Solo. He wasn't a macho male role model who initiates the plot but rather a one-sided comic relief character who was just along for the ride. I found every other character in the movie more interesting than him.Well he kind of grew into that by the end. It wouldn't be very interesting if his character was the same as he was at the start of ANH, right? But I do agree he didn't feel like the protagonist.
Quote from: Turkey on May 26, 2018, 09:16:56 AMQuote from: Chakas on May 26, 2018, 09:12:28 AMI don't like how they neutered Han Solo. He wasn't a macho male role model who initiates the plot but rather a one-sided comic relief character who was just along for the ride. I found every other character in the movie more interesting than him.Well he kind of grew into that by the end. It wouldn't be very interesting if his character was the same as he was at the start of ANH, right? But I do agree he didn't feel like the protagonist.A movie about Han Solo wouldn't be interesting if Han Solo is anything like he was in the original movies?
Quote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 09:47:15 AMQuote from: Turkey on May 26, 2018, 09:16:56 AMQuote from: Chakas on May 26, 2018, 09:12:28 AMI don't like how they neutered Han Solo. He wasn't a macho male role model who initiates the plot but rather a one-sided comic relief character who was just along for the ride. I found every other character in the movie more interesting than him.Well he kind of grew into that by the end. It wouldn't be very interesting if his character was the same as he was at the start of ANH, right? But I do agree he didn't feel like the protagonist.A movie about Han Solo wouldn't be interesting if Han Solo is anything like he was in the original movies?The film is more about how he grows into that character, which he pretty much becomes by the end of the film.
Quote from: Fedorekd on May 26, 2018, 09:57:45 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 09:47:15 AMQuote from: Turkey on May 26, 2018, 09:16:56 AMQuote from: Chakas on May 26, 2018, 09:12:28 AMI don't like how they neutered Han Solo. He wasn't a macho male role model who initiates the plot but rather a one-sided comic relief character who was just along for the ride. I found every other character in the movie more interesting than him.Well he kind of grew into that by the end. It wouldn't be very interesting if his character was the same as he was at the start of ANH, right? But I do agree he didn't feel like the protagonist.A movie about Han Solo wouldn't be interesting if Han Solo is anything like he was in the original movies?The film is more about how he grows into that character, which he pretty much becomes by the end of the film.Boring. They should've just made an action adventure movie about Han Solo working for Jabba or something and it ends right where IV starts and he meets Luke And Obi Wan in the cantina.
Quote from: Fedorekd on May 26, 2018, 09:57:45 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 09:47:15 AMQuote from: Turkey on May 26, 2018, 09:16:56 AMQuote from: Chakas on May 26, 2018, 09:12:28 AMI don't like how they neutered Han Solo. He wasn't a macho male role model who initiates the plot but rather a one-sided comic relief character who was just along for the ride. I found every other character in the movie more interesting than him.Well he kind of grew into that by the end. It wouldn't be very interesting if his character was the same as he was at the start of ANH, right? But I do agree he didn't feel like the protagonist.A movie about Han Solo wouldn't be interesting if Han Solo is anything like he was in the original movies?The film is more about how he grows into that character, which he pretty much becomes by the end of the film.Supposedly this is the start of a trilogy. Hopefully he becomes Han Solo by the end of it. I don't believe he was anything like the Han we know at at the end of the movie with the exception of when Spoilerhe shot first.
Quote from: Chakas on May 26, 2018, 10:02:08 AMQuote from: Fedorekd on May 26, 2018, 09:57:45 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 09:47:15 AMQuote from: Turkey on May 26, 2018, 09:16:56 AMQuote from: Chakas on May 26, 2018, 09:12:28 AMI don't like how they neutered Han Solo. He wasn't a macho male role model who initiates the plot but rather a one-sided comic relief character who was just along for the ride. I found every other character in the movie more interesting than him.ANH?Well he kind of grew into that by the end. It wouldn't be very interesting if his character was the same as he was at the start of ANH, right? But I do agree he didn't feel like the protagonist.A movie about Han Solo wouldn't be interesting if Han Solo is anything like he was in the original movies?The film is more about how he grows into that character, which he pretty much becomes by the end of the film.Supposedly this is the start of a trilogy. Hopefully he becomes Han Solo by the end of it. I don't believe he was anything like the Han we know at at the end of the movie with the exception of when Spoilerhe shot first.I think he was showing elements of the ANH Han. Although it wouldn't make sense if he turned into that exact character at the end of the film, it'd imply Han pulled his first big heist literally just before ANH whereas Han is fairly experienced by that time.Not that I particularly want this to be a trilogy, or exist at all, but still.
Quote from: Fedorekd on May 26, 2018, 09:57:45 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 09:47:15 AMQuote from: Turkey on May 26, 2018, 09:16:56 AMQuote from: Chakas on May 26, 2018, 09:12:28 AMI don't like how they neutered Han Solo. He wasn't a macho male role model who initiates the plot but rather a one-sided comic relief character who was just along for the ride. I found every other character in the movie more interesting than him.ANH?Well he kind of grew into that by the end. It wouldn't be very interesting if his character was the same as he was at the start of ANH, right? But I do agree he didn't feel like the protagonist.A movie about Han Solo wouldn't be interesting if Han Solo is anything like he was in the original movies?The film is more about how he grows into that character, which he pretty much becomes by the end of the film.Supposedly this is the start of a trilogy. Hopefully he becomes Han Solo by the end of it. I don't believe he was anything like the Han we know at at the end of the movie with the exception of when Spoilerhe shot first.
Quote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 09:47:15 AMQuote from: Turkey on May 26, 2018, 09:16:56 AMQuote from: Chakas on May 26, 2018, 09:12:28 AMI don't like how they neutered Han Solo. He wasn't a macho male role model who initiates the plot but rather a one-sided comic relief character who was just along for the ride. I found every other character in the movie more interesting than him.ANH?Well he kind of grew into that by the end. It wouldn't be very interesting if his character was the same as he was at the start of ANH, right? But I do agree he didn't feel like the protagonist.A movie about Han Solo wouldn't be interesting if Han Solo is anything like he was in the original movies?The film is more about how he grows into that character, which he pretty much becomes by the end of the film.
Quote from: Turkey on May 26, 2018, 09:16:56 AMQuote from: Chakas on May 26, 2018, 09:12:28 AMI don't like how they neutered Han Solo. He wasn't a macho male role model who initiates the plot but rather a one-sided comic relief character who was just along for the ride. I found every other character in the movie more interesting than him.ANH?Well he kind of grew into that by the end. It wouldn't be very interesting if his character was the same as he was at the start of ANH, right? But I do agree he didn't feel like the protagonist.A movie about Han Solo wouldn't be interesting if Han Solo is anything like he was in the original movies?
Quote from: Chakas on May 26, 2018, 09:12:28 AMI don't like how they neutered Han Solo. He wasn't a macho male role model who initiates the plot but rather a one-sided comic relief character who was just along for the ride. I found every other character in the movie more interesting than him.ANH?Well he kind of grew into that by the end. It wouldn't be very interesting if his character was the same as he was at the start of ANH, right? But I do agree he didn't feel like the protagonist.
Quote from: Fedorekd on May 26, 2018, 10:08:29 AMQuote from: Chakas on May 26, 2018, 10:02:08 AMQuote from: Fedorekd on May 26, 2018, 09:57:45 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 09:47:15 AMQuote from: Turkey on May 26, 2018, 09:16:56 AMQuote from: Chakas on May 26, 2018, 09:12:28 AMI don't like how they neutered Han Solo. He wasn't a macho male role model who initiates the plot but rather a one-sided comic relief character who was just along for the ride. I found every other character in the movie more interesting than him.ANH?Well he kind of grew into that by the end. It wouldn't be very interesting if his character was the same as he was at the start of ANH, right? But I do agree he didn't feel like the protagonist.A movie about Han Solo wouldn't be interesting if Han Solo is anything like he was in the original movies?The film is more about how he grows into that character, which he pretty much becomes by the end of the film.Supposedly this is the start of a trilogy. Hopefully he becomes Han Solo by the end of it. I don't believe he was anything like the Han we know at at the end of the movie with the exception of when Spoilerhe shot first.I think he was showing elements of the ANH Han. Although it wouldn't make sense if he turned into that exact character at the end of the film, it'd imply Han pulled his first big heist literally just before ANH whereas Han is fairly experienced by that time.Not that I particularly want this to be a trilogy, or exist at all, but still.What is ANH?
In fact some of the best stories are those in which characters are introduced but you don't know everything about them and there is more focus on the plot and how the characters react to challenges they face.
Quote from: Fedorekd on May 26, 2018, 10:25:52 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 10:22:26 AMIn fact some of the best stories are those in which characters are introduced but you don't know everything about them and there is more focus on the plot and how the characters react to challenges they face.I mean, the characters still grow as a result of these challenges. Han Solo didn't remain static throughout the original trilogy.That's exactly my point. He didn't have an origin story either. It feels like every reboot of every series keeps trying to recapture the magic of the original but instead of doing what those people did they just make a stupid boring origin story where he boring character does some boring stuff to kind of become like the original character was at the end of the movie for 5 minutes. It's lame.
Quote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 10:22:26 AMIn fact some of the best stories are those in which characters are introduced but you don't know everything about them and there is more focus on the plot and how the characters react to challenges they face.I mean, the characters still grow as a result of these challenges. Han Solo didn't remain static throughout the original trilogy.
Quote from: Fedorekd on May 26, 2018, 10:37:43 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 10:31:45 AMQuote from: Fedorekd on May 26, 2018, 10:25:52 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 10:22:26 AMIn fact some of the best stories are those in which characters are introduced but you don't know everything about them and there is more focus on the plot and how the characters react to challenges they face.I mean, the characters still grow as a result of these challenges. Han Solo didn't remain static throughout the original trilogy.That's exactly my point. He didn't have an origin story either. It feels like every reboot of every series keeps trying to recapture the magic of the original but instead of doing what those people did they just make a stupid boring origin story where he boring character does some boring stuff to kind of become like the original character was at the end of the movie for 5 minutes. It's lame.I agree that the origin story was unnecessary, and the film didn't really justify itself either. But you seemed to be saying that you wanted a film where Han Solo is the exact same throughout and just does Han Solo things for 2 hours which sounds even worse.What's wrong with good old fashioned Han Solo for 2 hours? Isn't that the whole point of this movie? That everybody likes Han Solo and wants to see a Han Solo movie?
Quote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 10:31:45 AMQuote from: Fedorekd on May 26, 2018, 10:25:52 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 10:22:26 AMIn fact some of the best stories are those in which characters are introduced but you don't know everything about them and there is more focus on the plot and how the characters react to challenges they face.I mean, the characters still grow as a result of these challenges. Han Solo didn't remain static throughout the original trilogy.That's exactly my point. He didn't have an origin story either. It feels like every reboot of every series keeps trying to recapture the magic of the original but instead of doing what those people did they just make a stupid boring origin story where he boring character does some boring stuff to kind of become like the original character was at the end of the movie for 5 minutes. It's lame.I agree that the origin story was unnecessary, and the film didn't really justify itself either. But you seemed to be saying that you wanted a film where Han Solo is the exact same throughout and just does Han Solo things for 2 hours which sounds even worse.
Quote from: Fedorekd on May 26, 2018, 11:48:59 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 11:46:16 AMQuote from: Fedorekd on May 26, 2018, 10:37:43 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 10:31:45 AMQuote from: Fedorekd on May 26, 2018, 10:25:52 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 10:22:26 AMIn fact some of the best stories are those in which characters are introduced but you don't know everything about them and there is more focus on the plot and how the characters react to challenges they face.I mean, the characters still grow as a result of these challenges. Han Solo didn't remain static throughout the original trilogy.That's exactly my point. He didn't have an origin story either. It feels like every reboot of every series keeps trying to recapture the magic of the original but instead of doing what those people did they just make a stupid boring origin story where he boring character does some boring stuff to kind of become like the original character was at the end of the movie for 5 minutes. It's lame.I agree that the origin story was unnecessary, and the film didn't really justify itself either. But you seemed to be saying that you wanted a film where Han Solo is the exact same throughout and just does Han Solo things for 2 hours which sounds even worse.What's wrong with good old fashioned Han Solo for 2 hours? Isn't that the whole point of this movie? That everybody likes Han Solo and wants to see a Han Solo movie?Because we already four other movies where Han Solo does Han Solo things.I'd rather they just left the OT characters alone and did new things.I agree, they should come up with new characters. But since they decided to make a Han Solo movie, at least give us Han Solo, not whatever this is.
Quote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 11:46:16 AMQuote from: Fedorekd on May 26, 2018, 10:37:43 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 10:31:45 AMQuote from: Fedorekd on May 26, 2018, 10:25:52 AMQuote from: challengerX on May 26, 2018, 10:22:26 AMIn fact some of the best stories are those in which characters are introduced but you don't know everything about them and there is more focus on the plot and how the characters react to challenges they face.I mean, the characters still grow as a result of these challenges. Han Solo didn't remain static throughout the original trilogy.That's exactly my point. He didn't have an origin story either. It feels like every reboot of every series keeps trying to recapture the magic of the original but instead of doing what those people did they just make a stupid boring origin story where he boring character does some boring stuff to kind of become like the original character was at the end of the movie for 5 minutes. It's lame.I agree that the origin story was unnecessary, and the film didn't really justify itself either. But you seemed to be saying that you wanted a film where Han Solo is the exact same throughout and just does Han Solo things for 2 hours which sounds even worse.What's wrong with good old fashioned Han Solo for 2 hours? Isn't that the whole point of this movie? That everybody likes Han Solo and wants to see a Han Solo movie?Because we already four other movies where Han Solo does Han Solo things.I'd rather they just left the OT characters alone and did new things.