Pip, this isn't Quora. If this were Quora I'd say google it.Why can you understand if it were Mars or Venus, but not Jupiter? I swear, sometimes it feels like there's too little inside your head.Nicked from Nasa:Goal: Understand origin and evolution of Jupiter, look for solid planetary core, map magnetic field, measure water and ammonia in deep atmosphere, observe auroras.
Quote from: Desty on July 05, 2016, 08:32:10 AMPip, this isn't Quora. If this were Quora I'd say google it.Why can you understand if it were Mars or Venus, but not Jupiter? I swear, sometimes it feels like there's too little inside your head.Nicked from Nasa:Goal: Understand origin and evolution of Jupiter, look for solid planetary core, map magnetic field, measure water and ammonia in deep atmosphere, observe auroras.Because Mars and Venus have the capabilities to be travelled to in this lifetime. It took 5 years for one probe to get to Jupiter, why would we decide to pool the money together for something that can't benefit us right now?Earth has enough money issues as it is. We don'r need to put money towards Jupiter.
Trying to debate with Zesty is a waste of time.
It helps with advancements in the astrological field. Obviously.
This is a more justified use of money than throwing money at Africa hoping that the continent will magically get better.
Quote from: Pippen on July 05, 2016, 09:01:34 AMTrying to debate with Zesty is a waste of time.you're a teenager who doesn't know anything about what humanity, science, or society needs. Don't speak as if you've got it all figured out, and don't openly voice your opinion.
Quote from: Desty on July 05, 2016, 09:25:05 AMQuote from: Pippen on July 05, 2016, 09:01:34 AMTrying to debate with Zesty is a waste of time.you're a teenager who doesn't know anything about what humanity, science, or society needs. Don't speak as if you've got it all figured out, and don't openly voice your opinion. isn't this literally you tho? Aren't you a high school student?
To assume we wouldn't learn anything from it just belies how you have no idea what you're talking about.
It's like literally none of you can read. Pip never said we wouldn't learn anything from it He simply asked why we're doing it now (he literally says atm in the title) when we couldn't feasibility go there for quite some time.
Quote from: Tyger on July 05, 2016, 10:14:06 AMIt's like literally none of you can read. Pip never said we wouldn't learn anything from it He simply asked why we're doing it now (he literally says atm in the title) when we couldn't feasibility go there for quite some time.Are you saying that we can't think about the future? The reason why we all dismissed it is because it's weak logic.It's like saying "Why should I get a job? I need the money now. I'll just buy a lottery ticket, or rob someone."
Quote from: Tyger on July 05, 2016, 10:14:06 AMIt's like literally none of you can read. Pip never said we wouldn't learn anything from it He simply asked why we're doing it now (he literally says atm in the title) when we couldn't feasibility go there for quite some time.Well if that's our parameters for research then it'll never happen. I don't know about you, but I can't stand on methane.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on July 05, 2016, 10:16:56 AMQuote from: Tyger on July 05, 2016, 10:14:06 AMIt's like literally none of you can read. Pip never said we wouldn't learn anything from it He simply asked why we're doing it now (he literally says atm in the title) when we couldn't feasibility go there for quite some time.Well if that's our parameters for research then it'll never happen. I don't know about you, but I can't stand on methane. das learn to read it's not my parameters for anything, I'm explaining what pip asked since none of you answered him
Quote from: Desty on July 05, 2016, 10:15:55 AMQuote from: Tyger on July 05, 2016, 10:14:06 AMIt's like literally none of you can read. Pip never said we wouldn't learn anything from it He simply asked why we're doing it now (he literally says atm in the title) when we couldn't feasibility go there for quite some time.Are you saying that we can't think about the future? The reason why we all dismissed it is because it's weak logic.It's like saying "Why should I get a job? I need the money now. I'll just buy a lottery ticket, or rob someone." clearly the 9th grade English class you just finished didn't do a good job teaching you reading comprehension because I'm not saying anything, I'm explaining pips question.He didn't ask what can we learn from Jupiter he asked what can we learn from Jupiter that's useful to us now, and none of you have answered that question.
Juno is going to within 3000km of Jupiter's cloud layer. Provided all goes well, this is the first time we've sent anything this far into the atmosphere of a giant. We can expect more detailed atmospheric samples, a better understanding of how the planet formed, advancements in our understanding of how magnetic fields and radiation work, a better look at the planet's van allen belt, and a bunch of other stuff that advances our understanding of the universe and the ever slim possibility of discovering microorganisms living in the upper atmosphere and more. To assume we wouldn't learn anything from it just belies how you have no idea what you're talking about.
Quote from: BaconShelf on July 05, 2016, 10:04:13 AMJuno is going to within 3000km of Jupiter's cloud layer. Provided all goes well, this is the first time we've sent anything this far into the atmosphere of a giant. We can expect more detailed atmospheric samples, a better understanding of how the planet formed, advancements in our understanding of how magnetic fields and radiation work, a better look at the planet's van allen belt, and a bunch of other stuff that advances our understanding of the universe and the ever slim possibility of discovering microorganisms living in the upper atmosphere and more. To assume we wouldn't learn anything from it just belies how you have no idea what you're talking about.When did I say learn?I meant HELP.How does it HELP us right now?Learning more about the gas giant is good, i'm fine with that. However they are putting a lot of money into something that could only go three ways.1: We learn a lot more about Jupiter, yaaay.2: It was a complete waste of time.3: We have a huge discovery which could benefit us greatly.That 3rd is has a 1 out of 1000000 chance of happening, while the 1st and 2nd options Have a 60/40 chance of happening respectively.Even if we discover more about Jupiter, what could we possibly gain from that? More Knowledge? Okay, knowledge is fine, but can't help us if it's a 5 year probe trip away. Just trying to think practically here.
So....what does Juno orbiting Jupiter help us with atm?
