Quote from: Aether on June 05, 2016, 09:53:39 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 05, 2016, 08:38:58 PM

Quote from: Aether on June 05, 2016, 08:31:37 PM

why does anyone care who likes them here. . .

yeah, why would anyone want to be liked or accepted by people

what a bizarre and totally not human thing to do

It's a joke. Maybe you misunderstood my making light of people wanting to feel accepted by strangers on the internet they'll almost certainly never meet in real life, a peculiar behavior to be sure.

no, i understood you, and no, there's nothing peculiar about wanting to be liked by people on the internet

the only real difference between the internet and "real life" is that there is no physical interaction, which is unnecessary for developing meaningful relationships with people

maybe you have no interest in developing meaningful relationships on the internet, but not everyone is you
but there is literally nothing "peculiar" about it--at all

What's peculiar is subjective. It's absolutely peculiar to me which makes it peculiar in some form. Maybe not from your perspective, but from mine at least.

I'm sorry I didn't clarify that I didn't mean to convey it as a universal standard.

Quote from: SecondClass on June 05, 2016, 09:54:29 PM

When can I make up stuff about you? Can I go around calling you a nihilist when it obviously doesn't apply? Why would I care about equality if I'm a solipsist? Why would I empathize with people who aren't allowed to join the military because of their gender, get into huge arguments over things that don't affect me? Why would I care about human rights at all, why would I give a shit about the right to do whatever you want to your own body? I wouldn't have compassion at all if I was a solipsist, and if I didn't think others existed, I would have to also be a nihilist. I wouldn't even have a sense of morality whatsoever, since morality revolves around the interaction of suffering-capable organisms.

If anything, I'm apathetic. That's something I can admit. But I know other people exist, and you don't know me at all.

i would argue that that's the rational part of your brain trying to eke out some sense into you

though you're a solipsist, it's as if you're afraid of being wrong--because being wrong would have massive implications on what's right and what's wrong, so you build up a slipshod moral compass to have some kind of contingency plan, like a Pascal's wager, just in case you happen to be wrong

Fuck you. Honestly. You know nothing. If it was some fucking contingency plan, I wouldn't hold them so deeply. They would be afterthoughts.

But what fucking ever. You know everything about everything, you're perfect. You know things about myself even I don't know. Even though I care compulsively IRL about what other people think of me, and there's not a shred of doubt in my mind that I share the world with trillions of people much more complex and interesting than me, I guess in the back of my mind, unbeknownst to me, I think everything I stand for is bullshit and everyone else is fake. Honestly, just go to hell if you sincerely believe I think that way.

Quote from: Aether on June 05, 2016, 10:04:42 PM

Also, I do care what some people think on the web. Again, it was a joke.

yet you still seem to find it peculiar, so i'll ask you, what's so weird about it

Yes, I find a lot of my own behaviors peculiar, and analyzing them is somewhat of a passion of mine.

What's strange about it? Well maybe it's the fact that I have many more significant things in my life to focus on but for some reason I still find the energy to want to be liked and accepted by someone that I'll never have anything but a fleeting interaction with through text on a screen. Logically I can't find any great reason to concern myself with that to the extent that I have, but I can see how taking that action can play into my emotions and help combat the loneliness I often feel, even though focusing on making real life connections with people would do so much more significantly.

I don't mean to say it's peculiar in the sense that it's just not normal at all, but rather in the sense that it's curious to me.

Quote from: SecondClass on June 05, 2016, 10:33:42 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on June 05, 2016, 10:06:11 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on June 05, 2016, 10:02:15 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on June 05, 2016, 09:54:29 PM

When can I make up stuff about you? Can I go around calling you a nihilist when it obviously doesn't apply? Why would I care about equality if I'm a solipsist? Why would I empathize with people who aren't allowed to join the military because of their gender, get into huge arguments over things that don't affect me? Why would I care about human rights at all, why would I give a shit about the right to do whatever you want to your own body? I wouldn't have compassion at all if I was a solipsist, and if I didn't think others existed, I would have to also be a nihilist. I wouldn't even have a sense of morality whatsoever, since morality revolves around the interaction of suffering-capable organisms.

If anything, I'm apathetic. That's something I can admit. But I know other people exist, and you don't know me at all.

i would argue that that's the rational part of your brain trying to eke out some sense into you

though you're a solipsist, it's as if you're afraid of being wrong--because being wrong would have massive implications on what's right and what's wrong, so you build up a slipshod moral compass to have some kind of contingency plan, like a Pascal's wager, just in case you happen to be wrong

Fuck you. Honestly. You know nothing. If it was some fucking contingency plan, I wouldn't hold them so deeply. They would be afterthoughts.

But what fucking ever. You know everything about everything, you're perfect. You know things about myself even I don't know. Even though I care compulsively IRL about what other people think of me, and there's not a shred of doubt in my mind that I share the world with trillions of people much more complex and interesting than me, I guess in the back of my mind, unbeknownst to me, I think everything I stand for is bullshit and everyone else is fake. Honestly, just go to hell if you sincerely believe I think that way.

I guess just ignore this, though! Jacob knows best!

I may as well become an actual solipsist now, because if Jake says something, no matter how fucked up and wrong it is, it just becomes fucking true!

Can both of you chill the hell out?

You're secretly a bisexual, you're lying about being asexual.

Same with your atheism, that's also a lie. I know best, and I know your atheism is just a contingency plan.

Imagine someone truly believed that, actually thought they knew your beliefs better than you, and called you a liar for claiming otherwise. How could you not get infuriated at that shitty, terrible person?

meme