As soon as a trailer reveals a monster, it's a mistake.
Quote from: Sandtrap on April 17, 2015, 11:06:39 AMAs soon as a trailer reveals a monster, it's a mistake.Well we already knew what he looked like from the first one anyway.
Quote from: Big Boss on April 17, 2015, 11:07:39 AMQuote from: Sandtrap on April 17, 2015, 11:06:39 AMAs soon as a trailer reveals a monster, it's a mistake.Well we already knew what he looked like from the first one anyway.Does it give a valid reason to show off critical moments in the movie?No.
Mr. Boogie?
Quote from: Sandtrap on April 17, 2015, 11:06:39 AMAs soon as a trailer reveals a monster, it's a mistake.Not for Godzilla or King KongYet for Horror movies I'd say this rule applies
Quote from: LecomingBegend on April 17, 2015, 01:42:52 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on April 17, 2015, 11:06:39 AMAs soon as a trailer reveals a monster, it's a mistake.Not for Godzilla or King KongYet for Horror movies I'd say this rule appliesI like the particular philosophy of Carpenter. The less you know, and the less you see of something, the more atmosphere, the more tense, the more unease you can build upon.You can always show your creature. But fleeting glimpses create something special.A morbid curiosity is generated to want to see what's so terrifying. Not knowing, what something is, but that it is inherently harmful to you, is terrifying.Not seeing it in full, makes for great tension and immersion.
Quote from: Sandtrap on April 17, 2015, 01:46:11 PMQuote from: LecomingBegend on April 17, 2015, 01:42:52 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on April 17, 2015, 11:06:39 AMAs soon as a trailer reveals a monster, it's a mistake.Not for Godzilla or King KongYet for Horror movies I'd say this rule appliesI like the particular philosophy of Carpenter. The less you know, and the less you see of something, the more atmosphere, the more tense, the more unease you can build upon.You can always show your creature. But fleeting glimpses create something special.A morbid curiosity is generated to want to see what's so terrifying. Not knowing, what something is, but that it is inherently harmful to you, is terrifying.Not seeing it in full, makes for great tension and immersion.While I generally agree with you that revealing as little as possible can create some amazing suspense, I don't think it really applies here. The first movie has been out for three years and the villain/monster has already been clearly revealed. Not much of a point in keeping it a secret when everyone who's seen the first installment already knows what the bad guy looks like.
Quote from: LecomingBegend on April 17, 2015, 02:36:25 PMQuote from: Flee on April 17, 2015, 02:34:17 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on April 17, 2015, 01:46:11 PMQuote from: LecomingBegend on April 17, 2015, 01:42:52 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on April 17, 2015, 11:06:39 AMAs soon as a trailer reveals a monster, it's a mistake.Not for Godzilla or King KongYet for Horror movies I'd say this rule appliesI like the particular philosophy of Carpenter. The less you know, and the less you see of something, the more atmosphere, the more tense, the more unease you can build upon.You can always show your creature. But fleeting glimpses create something special.A morbid curiosity is generated to want to see what's so terrifying. Not knowing, what something is, but that it is inherently harmful to you, is terrifying.Not seeing it in full, makes for great tension and immersion.While I generally agree with you that revealing as little as possible can create some amazing suspense, I don't think it really applies here. The first movie has been out for three years and the villain/monster has already been clearly revealed. Not much of a point in keeping it a secret when everyone who's seen the first installment already knows what the bad guy looks like.Why eliminate the possibility of suspense for people who haven't seen the original?Why needlessly keep up the suspense when the vast majority of people who will go see the movie already know what it's about? If anything, it's going to result in a backlash of people who won't understand why you're trying to hide an already known villain, or people who go see the movie anticipating something new and different because you seemingly deliberately kept the bad guy a secret, only to find out that it's the exact same one.
Quote from: Flee on April 17, 2015, 02:34:17 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on April 17, 2015, 01:46:11 PMQuote from: LecomingBegend on April 17, 2015, 01:42:52 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on April 17, 2015, 11:06:39 AMAs soon as a trailer reveals a monster, it's a mistake.Not for Godzilla or King KongYet for Horror movies I'd say this rule appliesI like the particular philosophy of Carpenter. The less you know, and the less you see of something, the more atmosphere, the more tense, the more unease you can build upon.You can always show your creature. But fleeting glimpses create something special.A morbid curiosity is generated to want to see what's so terrifying. Not knowing, what something is, but that it is inherently harmful to you, is terrifying.Not seeing it in full, makes for great tension and immersion.While I generally agree with you that revealing as little as possible can create some amazing suspense, I don't think it really applies here. The first movie has been out for three years and the villain/monster has already been clearly revealed. Not much of a point in keeping it a secret when everyone who's seen the first installment already knows what the bad guy looks like.Why eliminate the possibility of suspense for people who haven't seen the original?
Really you enjoyed the first one? I thought it was awful.
Quote from: Flee on April 17, 2015, 02:34:17 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on April 17, 2015, 01:46:11 PMQuote from: LecomingBegend on April 17, 2015, 01:42:52 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on April 17, 2015, 11:06:39 AMAs soon as a trailer reveals a monster, it's a mistake.Not for Godzilla or King KongYet for Horror movies I'd say this rule appliesI like the particular philosophy of Carpenter. The less you know, and the less you see of something, the more atmosphere, the more tense, the more unease you can build upon.You can always show your creature. But fleeting glimpses create something special.A morbid curiosity is generated to want to see what's so terrifying. Not knowing, what something is, but that it is inherently harmful to you, is terrifying.Not seeing it in full, makes for great tension and immersion.While I generally agree with you that revealing as little as possible can create some amazing suspense, I don't think it really applies here. The first movie has been out for three years and the villain/monster has already been clearly revealed. Not much of a point in keeping it a secret when everyone who's seen the first installment already knows what the bad guy looks like.That's true. But I was, also referring to the trailer itself. That same principle should apply to any horror movie trailer. Any movie trailer, in fact.Look at Terminator Genysis. They just revealed that John Connor was altered by skynet into a new class of lifeform and dropped back in time to fuck everybody's shit up because he agreed that he was something more.I mean fuck dude. Talk about giving away the entire fucking movie.