Since When Did People Start Hating On Forrest Grump?

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You don't have a kid with someone who is genetically at-risk.
Oh yeah, and this. Why didn't I use this from the beginning?
You can have a kid with any consenting individual you want, it doesn't matter if the possible child is at risk.


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I wouldn't give a shit. And yeah, the mom definitely has more of a right to it, it doesn't matter if he's "half you". Do you have to spend nine months incapacitated and restricted just to bring it into existence?
Are men just sperm banks to you that can be used at women's disposal? If someone is fucking me, and intentionally has a child, I have every damn right to know. What if I don't want you to have my kid, huh?


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You don't have a kid with someone who is genetically at-risk.
Oh yeah, and this. Why didn't I use this from the beginning?
You can have a kid with any consenting individual you want, it doesn't matter if the possible child is at risk.
You're a fucking moron.


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What if I don't want you to have my kid, huh?
Then don't fuck her. When you have sex, that's something you just have to consider. Grow up.


 
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You don't have a kid with someone who is genetically at-risk.
Oh yeah, and this. Why didn't I use this from the beginning?
You can have a kid with any consenting individual you want, it doesn't matter if the possible child is at risk.
LOL

So much for your consent-based morality.

Imposing the risk of severe mental disability on a child is academically evil. And you know it.


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You don't have a kid with someone who is genetically at-risk.
Oh yeah, and this. Why didn't I use this from the beginning?
You can have a kid with any consenting individual you want, it doesn't matter if the possible child is at risk.
LOL

So much for your consent-based morality.

Imposing the risk of severe mental disability on a child is academically evil. And you know it.
With my consent-based morality, even having a child is evil, because he's not consenting to existence. But at the same time, it's a necessary evil, because our race needs new kids to keep existing. Because of confusions like these, I tend to prioritize the consent of living adults over hypothetical, unborn children.


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With my consent-based morality, even having a child is evil, because he's not consenting to existence. But at the same time, it's a necessary evil, because our race needs new kids to keep existing. Because of confusions like these, I tend to prioritize the consent of living adults over hypothetical, unborn children.
This is legitimately the funniest thing you have ever posted. Thank you.

Without even going into anti-natalism--why is it permissible for you to impose horrible debilitating shit on children? You can talk all you want about how the human race needs to exist, but why does mental retardation need to exist?

Either way--the human race would have chugged along just fine whether or not Jenny would have had the kid, so there is literally no good, rational, logical reason for her to have had any kids at all--let alone one that was such high-risk.
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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With my consent-based morality, even having a child is evil, because he's not consenting to existence. But at the same time, it's a necessary evil, because our race needs new kids to keep existing. Because of confusions like these, I tend to prioritize the consent of living adults over hypothetical, unborn children.
This is legitimately the funniest thing you have ever posted. Thank you.

Without even going into anti-natalism--why is it permissible for you to impose horrible debilitating shit on children?
Because having sex doesn't necessitate childbirth, and tangible things are more important than possible things. If you disallowed two people from having sex, that's breaking their right to consent. If you allow it, it's breaking a hypothetical child's right to consent. And tangible things are more important.


 
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Because having sex doesn't necessitate childbirth,
It did in this case. We're not talking about sex--we're talking about the childbirth. Why is it okay to impose horrible afflictions upon people?

I'm not talking about preventing them from having sex--really, what I'm arguing is that Jenny should have had an abortion.
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and tangible things are more important than possible things.
So you're saying you belong in the Stone Age?


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Then I'd agree with you. I was talking about sex.


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Op... Who the hell is Forrest Grump?


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I'll abort that damn baby w/ my own two hands, on momma


 
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Then I'd agree with you. I was talking about sex.
Well, there you go. That's why I dislike Jenny. Too many poor choices, too little comeuppance.


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What if I don't want you to have my kid, huh?
Then don't fuck her. When you have sex, that's something you just have to consider. Grow up.
Forest very clearly couldn't consider that, you goddamn clown.


 
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It was good. Definitely a must watch. Though I can't see myself rewatching it on special occasions or anything.


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I dont even think forest is the real father tbh


 
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I dont even think forest is the real father tbh
Yeah, that's what I thought, too. Maybe.


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it depends on how intellectually impaired the guy was; they never really say.
When he was tested for acceptance to public school the doctor said he had an IQ of 79, which is not classified as mentally handcapped. He is very dumwitted, but he isn't retarded.


 
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it depends on how intellectually impaired the guy was; they never really say.
When he was tested for acceptance to public school the doctor said he had an IQ of 79, which is not classified as mentally handcapped. He is very dumwitted, but he isn't retarded.
>murican standards


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it depends on how intellectually impaired the guy was; they never really say.
When he was tested for acceptance to public school the doctor said he had an IQ of 79, which is not classified as mentally handcapped. He is very dumwitted, but he isn't retarded.
>murican standards
>DSM-5 Standards
>A Level 1 (at worst) by ICD standards

He's not retarded.


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I've heard people have been shitting on Forrest Gump
Why the fuck? Forrest Grump was an awesome movie

I love it. It's such a great historical and loving story.


 
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>DSM-5 Standards
>A Level 1 (at worst) by ICD standards

He's not retarded.
He's cutting it pretty damn close, though.
I don't remember it being 79, unless you just now rewatched the movie. I think it was 75.

How reliable were IQ tests in the '50s anyway?


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>DSM-5 Standards
>A Level 1 (at worst) by ICD standards

He's not retarded.
He's cutting it pretty damn close, though.
I don't remember it being 79, unless you just now rewatched the movie. I think it was 75.

How reliable were IQ tests in the '50s anyway?
About as reliable as they are now, generally. And slight retardation would be an IQ of 69. IQ also changes over the course of your life because of developmental factors, so there's a good chance that his IQ is higher by some amount during his adulthood.


 
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About as reliable as they are now, generally. And slight retardation would be an IQ of 69. IQ also changes over the course of your life because of developmental factors, so there's a good chance that his IQ is higher by some amount during his adulthood.
Well, okay, but I still think it's a stretch to say that he could have truly grasped the weight of the situation at that point in his life.

There's a reason why the most emotional scene in the movie (for me) is the part where he asks Jenny, "Is he smart, or is he...?"


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
About as reliable as they are now, generally. And slight retardation would be an IQ of 69. IQ also changes over the course of your life because of developmental factors, so there's a good chance that his IQ is higher by some amount during his adulthood.
Well, okay, but I still think it's a stretch to say that he could have truly grasped the weight of the situation at that point in his life.

There's a reason why the most emotional scene in the movie (for me) is the part where he asks Jenny, "Is he smart, or is he...?"
I'm not denying that he is exceptionally slow, but he isn't actually retarded. He is functionally able to store information and carry out his responsibilities/actions with slight to no handicap.

The point of that line is that Forrest is aware of his impediment, and that it's possible to pass on, not that it is necessarily severe. He also knows what sex is (what it means, and the possible consequences) judging by his reaction to the New Years ladies at Dan's apartment and his college confrontation at Jenny's dorm.


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Yet neither of them have the right to create it in the first place.

This isn't even anti-natalism--this is common sense. You don't have a kid with someone who is genetically at-risk.
Stupidity is a recessive trait? Are you sure?