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jacob is/has/never will be funny tho
i've made you laugh several times on discord
I'm a v polite person


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are you like me that you want to die before 30 too

yeah who wants to live longer than that honestly
It's not that I want to, I just don't honestly see myself living that long. I almost killed myself a few months ago; I doubt the issues causing that will be fixed soon.


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If I could guarantee a happy life, I would have kids. But I can't; at most, I'll adopt.

do you think the greatest generation guaranteed a happy life for the baby boomers
Greatest so far. I'd need to be given the 100% that they won't worry for a job, school supplies, clothing, discrimination or hatred, etc. It would require us to fix the problem caused by humanity within the next few years. That's not happening, so I'm not having kids.


 
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that fact makes you happy?
not happy per se, but i definitely feel "better" about my position in life

i want future generations to feel the same way, but at the same time, i don't want to take away their right to feel discontent about whatever boring problems they'll have

because my problems, comparatively speaking, are boringโ€”but i'm starkly aware of how much happier i could be, and that's the frustrating thing

and this is where i lack perspective, because i can't prove to you that someone with a cozy life is going to be less depressed than i amโ€”but i'm willing to bet that they would


 
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are you like me that you want to die before 30 too

yeah who wants to live longer than that honestly
It's not that I want to, I just don't honestly see myself living that long. I almost killed myself a few months ago; I doubt the issues causing that will be fixed soon.

i'll take it

this is off topic but you strike me as the self-conscious type. you're very intelligent and you handled yourself very well here but i bet it doesn't translate like that irl. i wish i could help you unlock what you're capable of.


 
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If I could guarantee a happy life, I would have kids. But I can't; at most, I'll adopt.

do you think the greatest generation guaranteed a happy life for the baby boomers
Greatest so far. I'd need to be given the 100% that they won't worry for a job, school supplies, clothing, discrimination or hatred, etc. It would require us to fix the problem caused by humanity within the next few years. That's not happening, so I'm not having kids.

basically what i'm trying to get at is, do you think any generation before ours has ever met your criterion for procreation

i'm sure this is unnecessary and verbatim has already put you through the ringer with these questions so be brief if u want


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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
are you like me that you want to die before 30 too

yeah who wants to live longer than that honestly
It's not that I want to, I just don't honestly see myself living that long. I almost killed myself a few months ago; I doubt the issues causing that will be fixed soon.

i'll take it

this is off topic but you strike me as the self-conscious type. you're very intelligent and you handled yourself very well here but i bet it doesn't translate like that irl. i wish i could help you unlock what you're capable of.
I'm decent with words, but that doesn't make me smart; that's neither here nor there, though.


 
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that fact makes you happy?
not happy per se, but i definitely feel "better" about my position in life

i want future generations to feel the same way, but at the same time, i don't want to take away their right to feel discontent about whatever boring problems they'll have

because my problems, comparatively speaking, are boringโ€”but i'm starkly aware of how much happier i could be, and that's the frustrating thing

and this is where i lack perspective, because i can't prove to you that someone with a cozy life is going to be less depressed than i amโ€”but i'm willing to bet that they would

my point of contention is that no one derives happiness from a lack of suffering, or that realision that they could be suffering

why would you bet that


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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
If I could guarantee a happy life, I would have kids. But I can't; at most, I'll adopt.

do you think the greatest generation guaranteed a happy life for the baby boomers
Greatest so far. I'd need to be given the 100% that they won't worry for a job, school supplies, clothing, discrimination or hatred, etc. It would require us to fix the problem caused by humanity within the next few years. That's not happening, so I'm not having kids.

basically what i'm trying to get at is, do you think any generation before ours has ever met your criterion for procreation

i'm sure this is unnecessary and verbatim has already put you through the ringer with these questions so be brief if u want
If the millennial generation is at 20% criterion for producing children, the greatest generation was at 60%.

I am anti-natalist, I'm just stupidly optimistic that some near-future generation could live in content (not even bliss, just not worrying about rent, their credit score, or debt).


 
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are you like me that you want to die before 30 too

yeah who wants to live longer than that honestly
It's not that I want to, I just don't honestly see myself living that long. I almost killed myself a few months ago; I doubt the issues causing that will be fixed soon.

i'll take it

this is off topic but you strike me as the self-conscious type. you're very intelligent and you handled yourself very well here but i bet it doesn't translate like that irl. i wish i could help you unlock what you're capable of.
I'm decent with words, but that doesn't make me smart; that's neither here nor there, though.

you're smarter than me at least, and i'm a fool who's convinced himself and everyone else that he's going to be something.

i've always felt that the people who genuinely have the traits to make a difference lack the showmanship of the people running things. the "successful" people of this world are just really convincing actors.


 
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my point of contention is that no one derives happiness from a lack of suffering, or that realision that they could be suffering

why would you bet that
i would argue that it isn't even relevant whether someone derives happiness from a lack of suffering, because a lack of suffering in and of itself is an objectively positive thing, whether it's appreciated or not

this is a fundamental premise in benatar's asymmetry


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are you like me that you want to die before 30 too

yeah who wants to live longer than that honestly
It's not that I want to, I just don't honestly see myself living that long. I almost killed myself a few months ago; I doubt the issues causing that will be fixed soon.

i'll take it

this is off topic but you strike me as the self-conscious type. you're very intelligent and you handled yourself very well here but i bet it doesn't translate like that irl. i wish i could help you unlock what you're capable of.
I'm decent with words, but that doesn't make me smart; that's neither here nor there, though.

you're smarter than me at least, and i'm a fool who's convinced himself and everyone else that he's going to be something.

i've always felt that the people who genuinely have the traits to make a difference lack the showmanship of the people running things. the "successful" people of this world are just really convincing actors.
The issue with democracy is that it's the definition of mediocrity; the incompetent outnumber the competent, and they both have the same say in elections.

The difference between those that are smart and those that aren't is the ability to learn from their mistakes, and those of others.


 
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my point of contention is that no one derives happiness from a lack of suffering, or that realision that they could be suffering

why would you bet that
i would argue that it isn't even relevant whether someone derives happiness from a lack of suffering, because a lack of suffering in and of itself is an objectively positive thing, whether it's appreciated or not

this is a fundamental premise in benatar's asymmetry

right, it's a good thing but it doesn't create the positive sensations typically associated with happiness is my point

why would you bet someone with a cozy life would be less depressed than you


 
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right, it's a good thing but it doesn't create the positive sensations typically associated with happiness is my point

why would you bet someone with a cozy life would be less depressed than you
poor phrasing

depression is a mental condition that should probably be considered separate from someone's overall quality of life and their satisfaction with it, because it can occur in any person regardless of how awesome their life is
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