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I enjoy these kinds of discussions. Nice change of pace from the usual buzzing I hear around the world.
good thing i said something that annoyed you. i'll try to do that more often.
you guys have been my OTP since like 2015


 
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I still disagree that tumblr/first world problems people are annoying though

I'm never going to be annoyed by you if you're right, no matter how well or terribly you present yourself about it


 
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I enjoy these kinds of discussions. Nice change of pace from the usual buzzing I hear around the world.
good thing i said something that annoyed you. i'll try to do that more often.
you guys have been my OTP since like 2015

OTP?


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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so lets say i can picture it. i still don't believe we can achieve it, so nonexistence is still preferrable.
which is why being an antinatalist is all that makes sense

the "perfect existence" has such an iota of a chance of happening (especially because it involves literally changing the fabric of the universe) that it's not an achievable goal in any way

But that doesn't mean that it's not what life should look like. That's 100% how everything should be, no matter how fictitious it is. But if you look at the two goals (one, bring about the perfect existence; two, revert to perfect nonexistence), one makes far more sense to pursue.

yeah, revert to nonexistence

right

i need to know if we're on the same page
if you can't decipher which one I believe makes more sense from the tone and context of the post then I'm not going to help you lol


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i'm literally all anecdotes here but, i drive more than that daily i don't spend more than 60 a week on gas, and my truck is an old 6 cylinder so imagine how much better a somewhat modern 4 cylinder would be like.
I drive a car with 300k miles on it and that uses premium gas. So yeah.

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doesn't really address what i said about working for 5 years to help pay for stuff. and of course a job where you're moving around bricks and shit is going to have higher rates of injuries in comparison to packing up a cheeseburger and handing it through a window.

the whole suicide thing should be pretty constant no matter where you're working, though.
Just to check, you know how fucked up the US healthcare system is right? That injury rate is not sustainable.

And the article literally says that the suicide rate is double the general population.

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i mean, that's compariable to living in a toronto appartment, so are you guys in a big city or something
I live in a city that got excited about a Kroger being built and thinks gays are the worst thing in the world.

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canada's housing market isn't fantastic either but i don't know how it fares in comparison to yours. i'm basing this all on my own experience, i don't have time to do anything else.
Here's a website that shows the cost differences for various things between Canada and the US, including living expenses.

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i guess there's not much more to say, then.
I'm glad that you're living (relatively to others in the same generation) well. I don't think it's wrong to think many of our generation complain about mild inconveniences while living in relative luxury. My issue is the idea that we're wrong for being upset about conditions out of our control.


 
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I still disagree that tumblr/first world problems people are annoying though

I'm never going to be annoyed by you if you're right, no matter how well or terribly you present yourself about it

then you have levels of patience i cannot even dream of


 
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I enjoy these kinds of discussions. Nice change of pace from the usual buzzing I hear around the world.
good thing i said something that annoyed you. i'll try to do that more often.
you guys have been my OTP since like 2015
OTP?
shipping term, one true pairing

i'm half-joking


 
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yeah, revert to nonexistence
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one of his two options was reverft to nonexistence


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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I enjoy these kinds of discussions. Nice change of pace from the usual buzzing I hear around the world.
good thing i said something that annoyed you. i'll try to do that more often.
you guys have been my OTP since like 2015

OTP?
definition


 
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good thing i said something that annoyed you. i'll try to do that more often.
you guys have been my OTP since like 2015
OTP?
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i'm half-joking

oh yeah, since the metal gear thread right

or was it before that


 
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so lets say i can picture it. i still don't believe we can achieve it, so nonexistence is still preferrable.
which is why being an antinatalist is all that makes sense

the "perfect existence" has such an iota of a chance of happening (especially because it involves literally changing the fabric of the universe) that it's not an achievable goal in any way

But that doesn't mean that it's not what life should look like. That's 100% how everything should be, no matter how fictitious it is. But if you look at the two goals (one, bring about the perfect existence; two, revert to perfect nonexistence), one makes far more sense to pursue.

yeah, revert to nonexistence

right

i need to know if we're on the same page
if you can't decipher which one I believe makes more sense from the tone and context of the post then I'm not going to help you lol

cut me some slack man i've been working since 7 this morning and i've ad like 300 conversatins with just you in this thread so i can't keep track

i'm assuming you mean revertng to non-existence is the more realistic goal we should strive for


 
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yeah, revert to nonexistence
death
one of his two options was reverft to nonexistence
yeah, i interpret that as death

not necessarily suicide, but doing what you need to do on this planet and then reverting to nonexistence (dying) when your time here is up—and hopefully the mark you made will have made the planet an ever so slightly better place to live in
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i don't really think it's fair to compare issues like that, though.

i'm actualy really tired and we're having like 12 different conversations right now so i'm not sure where i'm going with this one lol
I'll be lenient given your exhaustion; it was merely meant to portray the idea that, while life is imperfect, most of our larger issues (hunger, preventable disease) are caused by societal problems that could be solved with a trivial amount of empathy. I'm not calling a skinned knee "fun", I'm just saying that we could be fixing poverty if society (or Congressmen) didn't think poverty is the fault of the poor.


 
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also as far as the hedonic treadmill goes, i don't think people in the future—whose biggest worries will hopefully be what to wear the next day, or what kind of present to give your best friend for his birthday—i honestly don't think these people, while they may be unhappy about trivial stuff, i don't think they will fail to appreciate that their problems are indeed trivial compared to poverty and starvation

i have perspective enough to know that, despite my shit life, things could be a lot shittier, and i yearn for future generations to have a life where all they have to complain about is frivolity

i WANT that


 
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I drive a car with 300k miles on it and that uses premium gas. So yeah.

ouch. yeah that's a bit of a killer there.

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And the article literally says that the suicide rate is double the general population.

what i meant was that you will probably want to kill yourself no matter what job you're at lol

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Here's a website that shows the cost differences for various things between Canada and the US, including living expenses.

Yeah, so not really comparable then.

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I'm glad that you're living (relatively to others in the same generation) well. I don't think it's wrong to think many of our generation complain about mild inconveniences while living in relative luxury. My issue is the idea that we're wrong for being upset about conditions out of our control.

well i don't think you're wrong for being upset. i'm upset. i just think that because you are upset, you should feel compelled to break the cycle and stop having kids, and finish your life off.

though statistically, the main reason the reproduction rate is going down in first worlds in because they don't want to bring people into this messed up world, which is encouraging.


 
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yeah, i interpret that as death

not necessarily suicide, but doing what you need to do on this planet and then reverting to nonexistence (dying) when your time here is up—and hopefully the mark you made will have made the planet an ever so slightly better place to live in

that's how i interpret it too i was just making it easier for him to clarify by using his diction


 
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well i don't think you're wrong for being upset. i'm upset. i just think that because you are upset, you should feel compelled to break the cycle and stop having kids, and finish your life off.

though statistically, the main reason the reproduction rate is going down in first worlds in because they don't want to bring people into this messed up world, which is encouraging.
actually aria is like a cunt hair away from being an anti-natalist herself

i don't want to speak for her, but i can just feel it in my bunions


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what i meant was that you will probably want to kill yourself no matter what job you're at lol
I will (because of issues unrelated to work), but I'd rather avoid a job that would push me over the line of suicide.

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well i don't think you're wrong for being upset. i'm upset. i just think that because you are upset, you should feel compelled to break the cycle and stop having kids, and finish your life off.
I do. It's a little hard to while working minimum wage, trying to find an apartment with friends/associates, and dealing with bills and expenses. Maybe when I'm 29 and a year from killing myself, my votes for local/state/federal government will pay off and my house representative will actually act on my behalf.
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also as far as the hedonic treadmill goes, i don't think people in the future—whose biggest worries will hopefully be what to wear the next day, or what kind of present to give your best friend for his birthday—i honestly don't think these people, while they may be unhappy about trivial stuff, i don't think they will fail to appreciate that their problems are indeed trivial compared to poverty and starvation

i have perspective enough to know that, despite my shit life, things could be a lot shittier, and i yearn for future generations to have a life where all they have to complain about is frivolity

i WANT that

yeah but i still wouldn't say that these people, despite their appreciation for a life without starvation and poverty, will be happier than you are now.

like we can understand how shitty polio was but it doesn't make us happier.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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so lets say i can picture it. i still don't believe we can achieve it, so nonexistence is still preferrable.
which is why being an antinatalist is all that makes sense

the "perfect existence" has such an iota of a chance of happening (especially because it involves literally changing the fabric of the universe) that it's not an achievable goal in any way

But that doesn't mean that it's not what life should look like. That's 100% how everything should be, no matter how fictitious it is. But if you look at the two goals (one, bring about the perfect existence; two, revert to perfect nonexistence), one makes far more sense to pursue.

yeah, revert to nonexistence

right

i need to know if we're on the same page
if you can't decipher which one I believe makes more sense from the tone and context of the post then I'm not going to help you lol

cut me some slack man i've been working since 7 this morning and i've ad like 300 conversatins with just you in this thread so i can't keep track

i'm assuming you mean revertng to non-existence is the more realistic goal we should strive for
yes lol

but not on a personal level - anyone can just kill themselves

on a personal level, happiness (which there is no such thing as an "artificial" kind - just short-term and long-term) is the ultimate goal


 
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well i don't think you're wrong for being upset. i'm upset. i just think that because you are upset, you should feel compelled to break the cycle and stop having kids, and finish your life off.

though statistically, the main reason the reproduction rate is going down in first worlds in because they don't want to bring people into this messed up world, which is encouraging.
actually aria is like a cunt hair away from being an anti-natalist herself

i don't want to speak for her, but i can just feel it in my bunions

i think this is the funniest thing you've ever said

but it may just be the exhaustion talking lmao


 
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jacob is/has/never will be funny tho


 
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yeah but i still wouldn't say that these people, despite their appreciation for a life without starvation and poverty, will be happier than you are now.

like we can understand how shitty polio was but it doesn't make us happier.
i disagree

you have no idea how humbled i am by the fact that i'm not tiptoeing around landmines right now


 
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so lets say i can picture it. i still don't believe we can achieve it, so nonexistence is still preferrable.
which is why being an antinatalist is all that makes sense

the "perfect existence" has such an iota of a chance of happening (especially because it involves literally changing the fabric of the universe) that it's not an achievable goal in any way

But that doesn't mean that it's not what life should look like. That's 100% how everything should be, no matter how fictitious it is. But if you look at the two goals (one, bring about the perfect existence; two, revert to perfect nonexistence), one makes far more sense to pursue.

yeah, revert to nonexistence

right

i need to know if we're on the same page
if you can't decipher which one I believe makes more sense from the tone and context of the post then I'm not going to help you lol

cut me some slack man i've been working since 7 this morning and i've ad like 300 conversatins with just you in this thread so i can't keep track

i'm assuming you mean revertng to non-existence is the more realistic goal we should strive for
yes lol

but not on a personal level - anyone can just kill themselves

on a personal level, happiness (which there is no such thing as an "artificial" kind - just short-term and long-term) is the ultimate goal

i'm like the exact opposite. i want my life to suck, because i want the universe to get btfo when i succeed despite it's best efforts to fuck me over.

kind of childish. kind of masochistic. but it works. i've never been more motivated and successful than i have been the last couple of months.


 
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jacob is/has/never will be funny tho
i've made you laugh several times on discord


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I'd also add that my anti-natalism stems mostly from the fact that humanity has created issues that will last long beyond the generation mine will foster, including crippling mental health perception/funding and the statistical unlikeliness of children exceeding the lifestyle of their parents (and more likely downgrading), meaning that my potential children would most likely be worse off than me (which is awful).

If I could guarantee a happy life, I would have kids. But I can't; at most, I'll adopt.


 
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what i meant was that you will probably want to kill yourself no matter what job you're at lol
I will (because of issues unrelated to work), but I'd rather avoid a job that would push me over the line of suicide.

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well i don't think you're wrong for being upset. i'm upset. i just think that because you are upset, you should feel compelled to break the cycle and stop having kids, and finish your life off.
I do. It's a little hard to while working minimum wage, trying to find an apartment with friends/associates, and dealing with bills and expenses. Maybe when I'm 29 and a year from killing myself, my votes for local/state/federal government will pay off and my house representative will actually act on my behalf.

are you like me that you want to die before 30 too

yeah who wants to live longer than that honestly


 
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yeah but i still wouldn't say that these people, despite their appreciation for a life without starvation and poverty, will be happier than you are now.

like we can understand how shitty polio was but it doesn't make us happier.
i disagree

you have no idea how humbled i am by the fact that i'm not tiptoeing around landmines right now

that fact makes you happy?


 
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If I could guarantee a happy life, I would have kids. But I can't; at most, I'll adopt.

do you think the greatest generation guaranteed a happy life for the baby boomers