Should Rosanne have been canceled?

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No but I'm sure they were looking for any reason to cancel it


 
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I don't know about "should," considering Roseanne herself was the only problem child on cast, but I'm not opposed to the decision either.

But maybe I'm just speaking as someone who was able to find enjoyment in the original series, and I was initially happy when they got the whole cast together to make a new one, only for it to be cancelled because Barr had to run her cunt mouth on Twitter. Kinda just sucks for everyone.
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I always thought that show was awful, like The Nanny. Two actresses with annoying ass voices.


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Dayum. Laff, an obscure rerun cable network, is yanking all Rosanne off.


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Something's fucky. I don't believe it is the real reason the show was cancelled.


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Something's fucky. I don't believe it is the real reason the show was cancelled.

It’s the age we live in. Racism isn’t tolerated by corporate America anymore. Starbucks closed today to teach its employees how not to have a racial bias.

While I don’t condone racism of any type, this is starting to smell like a thought-police scenario. While done with the best intentions, we are allowing those with power to deem what is and isn’t acceptable thoughts.

While eradicating racism is a noble cause, we are removing the act of choice. It’s a slippery slope fallacy, I know this, but what happens when the corporate leaders decide other things?


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Really just a good example of why not to get involved in the television/film industry.

Sucks that all those people lost their jobs over something they have zero control over, but I doubt the show works without Roseanne, and what she did definitely warrants termination.

I don't think this can really be seen as our corporate overlords thought-policing us and more of our corporate overlords just virtue signalling. If there wasn't any public outrage and the show was profitable, I doubt there would have been any consequences.


 
 
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Something's fucky. I don't believe it is the real reason the show was cancelled.

It’s the age we live in. Racism isn’t tolerated by corporate America anymore. Starbucks closed today to teach its employees how not to have a racial bias.

While I don’t condone racism of any type, this is starting to smell like a thought-police scenario. While done with the best intentions, we are allowing those with power to deem what is and isn’t acceptable thoughts.

While eradicating racism is a noble cause, we are removing the act of choice. It’s a slippery slope fallacy, I know this, but what happens when the corporate leaders decide other things?
I've never agreed with this saying before, but it seems to make some sense. "the road to hell is paved with good intentions".


 
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Roseanne Barr is a piece if shit, but the show was pretty good. Unfortunate for Goodman, Gilbert, and the rest of the cast and crew for the cancellation.


 
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maybe television shouldnt be run like a business, maybe try to make the highest quality content you can and sponsors shouldnt matter

sounds like a pipe dream, but we should try to achieve it so BS like this doesnt happen


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maybe television shouldnt be run like a business, maybe try to make the highest quality content you can and sponsors shouldnt matter

sounds like a pipe dream, but we should try to achieve it so BS like this doesnt happen

So you're fine with the comments she made?


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I just want to know why such high profile people with so much to lose choose to publicly say such edgy controversial shit and then backtrack once they face the consequences.

If you have fucked up beliefs, then at least stand for your fucked up beliefs so you can at least say you're an honest person, and people can at least know what you really think. If you're so concerned with the consequences of those beliefs then why make a public display out of them and then backtrack when faced with backlash? It's just a pitiful sight.


 
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maybe television shouldnt be run like a business, maybe try to make the highest quality content you can and sponsors shouldnt matter

sounds like a pipe dream, but we should try to achieve it so BS like this doesnt happen

So you're fine with the comments she made?
no, but that doesnt mean she should be fired and her show cancelled

esp. after she apologized


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Don Lemon went on a rant last night bitching about the normalization of racism cause of her tweet.

Yeah, because when racism is normalized, we respond by firing the person who made the racist comment and condemn them to Hell and back for it. Fucking dumbass.


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I just want to know why such high profile people with so much to lose choose to publicly say such edgy controversial shit and then backtrack once they face the consequences.

If you have fucked up beliefs, then at least stand for your fucked up beliefs so you can at least say you're an honest person, and people can at least know what you really think. If you're so concerned with the consequences of those beliefs then why make a public display out of them and then backtrack when faced with backlash? It's just a pitiful sight.

That’s one thing you gotta hand Trump. He says some pretty vile shit and doesn’t apologize for shit


 
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maybe television shouldnt be run like a business, maybe try to make the highest quality content you can and sponsors shouldnt matter

sounds like a pipe dream, but we should try to achieve it so BS like this doesnt happen

So you're fine with the comments she made?
no, but that doesnt mean she should be fired and her show cancelled

esp. after she apologized

She clearly wasn't being sincere when she apologized. This is honestly pretty weird coming from you.


 
 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
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maybe television shouldnt be run like a business, maybe try to make the highest quality content you can and sponsors shouldnt matter

sounds like a pipe dream, but we should try to achieve it so BS like this doesnt happen

So you're fine with the comments she made?
no, but that doesnt mean she should be fired and her show cancelled

esp. after she apologized
You're the star of the show. You literally carry its name and embody it in full. You go on and say dumb racist things online. This reflects very poorly on your employer who would be seen as not caring about their high profile representatives being racist in public. They definitely were not in the wrong to fire her.
Did you read what I said? The system shouldnt have to be "we need to keep our sponsors sponsoring us or else we as a business fail!" it shouldnt be where the business needs to have good PR to keep staying relevant, and even if you're the star of the show, whatever you say in your off time is up to YOU. Roseanne wasn't a representative in any way, she was an ACTRESS. Thinking she has to represent the company, or that the status quo of this is a positive thing, is why we keep getting bullshit decisions like this. Of course, in this climate, the company made the right move. But the climate isn't a good one, and should be changed.


 
 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
——Carmen
maybe television shouldnt be run like a business, maybe try to make the highest quality content you can and sponsors shouldnt matter

sounds like a pipe dream, but we should try to achieve it so BS like this doesnt happen

So you're fine with the comments she made?
no, but that doesnt mean she should be fired and her show cancelled

esp. after she apologized
You're the star of the show. You literally carry its name and embody it in full. You go on and say dumb racist things online. This reflects very poorly on your employer who would be seen as not caring about their high profile representatives being racist in public. They definitely were not in the wrong to fire her.
Did you read what I said? The system shouldnt have to be "we need to keep our sponsors sponsoring us or else we as a business fail!" it shouldnt be where the business needs to have good PR to keep staying relevant, and even if you're the star of the show, whatever you say in your off time is up to YOU. Roseanne wasn't a representative in any way, she was an ACTRESS. Thinking she has to represent the company, or that the status quo of this is a positive thing, is why we keep getting bullshit decisions like this. Of course, in this climate, the company made the right move. But the climate isn't a good one, and should be changed.
I'm curious about the alternative then. This seems like a pretty logical thing that you can't get around. Companies are made up of and represented by people. These people can do good things and bad things. If high profile people at a certain company do shitty things in public, their bad behavior is negatively associated with the company. If the company doesn't do anything it will be seen as condoning it or being okay with that kind of behavior. How do you get around this? I don't see how you can change this system. Act like a hateful moron in public and there will be consequences for your actions. It's perfectly reasonable for this to extend to your work.
Dumb af

not even going to make my shitty night worse by getting into this, but if you look at how this whole situation ended and you think "good", or "too bad for everyone who got their career start/revitalization screwed over because of this, but still good!", then you're part of the problem

racism is bad, duh -- I'm sure roseanne's personal life and career were already over when she sent those tweets - the respectable thing to do is accept her apology, finish up any projects already in motion with her, then reassess if we still want her with us when those projects are done. But NO, we need a knee-jerk firing because we can't dare to look bad in front of sponsors, in front of social media!! We need to be as clean and perfect as we can, even if it means cancelling creative talent, or stifling the development of good tv shows! Because we're not in it to make good TV, we're in it for the bottom line. And if an actor is saying something that could make a sponsor pull out, that could make a bored 17 year old with too much time on their hands start an internet movement - then by God, quality television is secondary to that bottom line.

Yeah, the fucking system needs to be changed. You see no problem with this, you have your values in the gutter.
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
——Carmen
maybe television shouldnt be run like a business, maybe try to make the highest quality content you can and sponsors shouldnt matter

sounds like a pipe dream, but we should try to achieve it so BS like this doesnt happen

So you're fine with the comments she made?
no, but that doesnt mean she should be fired and her show cancelled

esp. after she apologized

She clearly wasn't being sincere when she apologized. This is honestly pretty weird coming from you.
Then you have a totally backwards idea of me

I'm the biggest champion of free speech here, and not that the 1st amendment pertains to businesses, but the broader concept of free speech can & does in this instance. She doesn't deserve to have her whole show cancelled because she's a racist, and let's not pretend ABC gives a shit about her racism. They care about losing money or creating negative publicity against their bloated corporation.


 
 
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