Sandtrap Brought up an Interesting Point

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When posting about moderation roles with Meta he made a reference to our collective mental state. We're all a bit fucked up, and we all come to this forum to spend time. Emotional tension that moderators have to deal with isn't a cakewalk; it exists and it's heavy. It was something along those lines. It's been eating at me in a sense.

It almost reminds me of being in Lost, and I've been wondering more and more why everyone here comes to post, and what commonalities we share. Lately I've been wondering why I spend time here distracting myself from my goals, and I feel that the answer is somewhat unpleasant.

What I'm really asking is this:
Are we all broken on some level, and if so should we try repairing each other to move on?


 
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Are we all broken on some level, and if so should we try repairing each other to move on? [/color]
Some people don't want to be repaired though, some prefer to stew in their selves, looking down on others and trying to not depress themselves further.
Other project it further and cause the rest to feel down.

There are too many swings and roundabouts here for any kind of hug box to be effective.
Last Edit: December 16, 2014, 01:49:23 PM by Sento


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Are we all broken on some level, and if so should we try repairing each other to move on? [/color]
Some people don't want to be repaired though, some prefer to stew in their selves, looking down on others and trying to depress themselves further.
I think this is an awesome starting point.
I wonder why we do it, is it self punishment of some kind? What happened to us to make this stream of thought prevalent in interaction?
I agree with this sentiment because I can fully relate. I seem bent on stagnation, and I'm not sure why. I think it has to do with attachment, personally. From my childhood I cling to my worst memories. In trying to understand and process them I often wonder if I'm really doing it to move on, or to cement the redundant qualities that prohibit self expansion. I wonder if it's because I ultimately assert that I'm worthless and incapable. The issue is that this isn't how I feel consciously, and I'm afraid it's ingrained in my mind and perhaps my personality. It makes one question if they're doomed. And if they are doomed, what is the point of making a situation better?

What do you think?


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I think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.


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Are we all broken on some level, and if so should we try repairing each other to move on? [/color]
Some people don't want to be repaired though, some prefer to stew in their selves, looking down on others and trying to depress themselves further.
I think this is an awesome starting point.
I wonder why we do it, is it self punishment of some kind? What happened to us to make this stream of thought prevalent in interaction?
I agree with this sentiment because I can fully relate. I seem bent on stagnation, and I'm not sure why. I think it has to do with attachment, personally. From my childhood I cling to my worst memories. In trying to understand and process them I often wonder if I'm really doing it to move on, or to cement the redundant qualities that prohibit self expansion. I wonder if it's because I ultimately assert that I'm worthless and incapable. The issue is that this isn't how I feel consciously, and I'm afraid it's ingrained in my mind and perhaps my personality. It makes one question if they're doomed. And if they are doomed, what is the point of making a situation better?

What do you think?

Apologies, I actually typo'd there.
But it still wound up making a point I was going to anyway, so...

Some people like self destruction, they also like bringing others down with them.
Misery loves company.

And the idea of being worthless and giving up is something people like seeing others feel too, as it relieves a tiny bit of pressure to know they aren't the only ones in that situation.


 
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I think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.
These are wise words that I'm far too impatient for..
Which is why I'll end up ruining things.


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I think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.
This is a conscientious response.
 Some people will never ask for help even if they need it.


 
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Are we all broken on some level, and if so should we try repairing each other to move on? [/color]
Some people don't want to be repaired though, some prefer to stew in their selves, looking down on others and trying to depress themselves further.
I think this is an awesome starting point.
I wonder why we do it, is it self punishment of some kind? What happened to us to make this stream of thought prevalent in interaction?
I agree with this sentiment because I can fully relate. I seem bent on stagnation, and I'm not sure why. I think it has to do with attachment, personally. From my childhood I cling to my worst memories. In trying to understand and process them I often wonder if I'm really doing it to move on, or to cement the redundant qualities that prohibit self expansion. I wonder if it's because I ultimately assert that I'm worthless and incapable. The issue is that this isn't how I feel consciously, and I'm afraid it's ingrained in my mind and perhaps my personality. It makes one question if they're doomed. And if they are doomed, what is the point of making a situation better?

What do you think?

Apologies, I actually typo'd there.
But it still wound up making a point I was going to anyway, so...

Some people like self destruction, they also like bringing others down with them.
Misery loves company.

And the idea of being worthless and giving up is something people like seeing others feel too, as it relieves a tiny bit of pressure to know they aren't the only ones in that situation.
Yet even if we're all in the gutter, don't we sometimes see the stars and wonder?
Last Edit: December 16, 2014, 01:59:12 PM by Epsira


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I am very broken, but I try to remain zen.
This is the direction I'm progressing in. How is it working for you?


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I think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.
This is a conscientious response.
 Some people will never ask for help even if they need it.

True, but in most of my experiences, it only made the person mad and deny it. I tried helping but they denyed it, so I let them figure out their situation by themselves, until finally they came back to me for help.


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I came here to talk about videogames with my b.net friends
Has that worked for the most part, or have you gotten more than you came for?


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I think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.
This is a conscientious response.
 Some people will never ask for help even if they need it.

True, but in most of my experiences, it only made the person mad and deny it. I tried helping but they denyed it, so I let them figure out their situation by themselves, until finally they came back to me for help.
Have you thought that perhaps because you showed them you could care that they eventually came back?


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Remind me to make a better bio.
I think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.
These are wise words that I'm far too impatient for..
Which is why I'll end up ruining things.
Your're trying to help someone out?


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Remind me to make a better bio.
I think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.
This is a conscientious response.
 Some people will never ask for help even if they need it.

True, but in most of my experiences, it only made the person mad and deny it. I tried helping but they denyed it, so I let them figure out their situation by themselves, until finally they came back to me for help.
Have you thought that perhaps because you showed them you could care that they eventually came back?
Yeah, I mean we should offer them help at first, but if they continue to deny the help, I think we should leave them be, but from the little help you offered they'll know that someone was willing to help them. So maybe that could eventually change their minds, and accept the help.


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Are we all broken on some level

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I think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.
These are wise words that I'm far too impatient for..
Which is why I'll end up ruining things.
Your're trying to help someone out?
Possibly.
But I worry a lot, so that doesn't help..


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Are we all broken on some level

Yes
And should we do something about it?


 
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Yet even if we're all in the gutter, don't we sometimes see the stars and wonder?
Looking can be nice.
But the distance just seems further when you're already on the ground.


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Yet even if we're all in the gutter, don't we sometimes see the stars and wonder?
Looking can be nice.
But the distance just seems further when you're already on the ground.
Should we then endeavor to get up, or remain?


 
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Yet even if we're all in the gutter, don't we sometimes see the stars and wonder?
Looking can be nice.
But the distance just seems further when you're already on the ground.
Should we then endeavor to get up, or remain?
That depends, something that far would be uncomfortable to those used to the ground.


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Remind me to make a better bio.
I think all of us are or have been broken at some point, and sometimes trying to help the person with it might only make it worse. I think if we are going to try to help someone, we should wait for them to accept the help, instead of us forcing it upon them.
These are wise words that I'm far too impatient for..
Which is why I'll end up ruining things.
Your're trying to help someone out?
Possibly.
But I worry a lot, so that doesn't help..
Hmm, try giving it some time. If you tried offering them help they know you want to help them, so give it some time. Then try attempting again, and maybe they'll have have a different state of mind to it.


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I came here to talk about videogames with my b.net friends
and by "videogames" you mean dark souls
The sad thing is a guarantee you've posted more in dark souls threads than me


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Yet even if we're all in the gutter, don't we sometimes see the stars and wonder?
Looking can be nice.
But the distance just seems further when you're already on the ground.
Should we then endeavor to get up, or remain?
That depends, something that far would be uncomfortable to those used to the ground.
Then we should rend complacency and embrace discomfort?
Or we should embrace our dirt?


 
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Well. Here's the thing amigo. We're not psychologists. We have Mr. Psych who's versed in those fields. Goji is versed in sound judgement. And I know I can read folks like I can books. I can pick them apart, and the more I learn about them, the faster I can do it.

But we're not proffessionals. So I'll tell you what this place is. It's a community. We're all generally hurting in some way. And when we are, we come here to talk. Maybe, talk about our problems. Maybe, put on our mask and pretend things are okay.

But we're all here because similar folks have a knack for finding one another. We are a community collective. But we can't do much. We're not proffessionals. And we can screw up big time if we ever thought that. The best we can do, is talk to one another.

This place is an outpost. A waypoint if you will.

It's a stopping point along the way. We come here when we need to. And then we return to our lives and move on as best we can.

Did you ever notice, that some members eventually left our numbers? They became rare appearances and eventually, disappeared from sight and mind all together.

They didn't leave because they were bored.

They left because they were ready.

We all have problems. Some are hard to fix. Some will take time to fix. But the best we can do is simply exist as we are now. And, when folks are ready to step up and get back out into the world, they will.

And this place, is a waypoint in time for them. Something they can come back to. It's safety. Security. And fond faces reside here. Friends. This place is a shelter.

Just a port in the storm. And we'd do our best to remain that way. We talk, and interact and help each other in that way. And when we're ready to get back in the ring, up we go.