Iโm about midway through season 2. How come Azula is a massive cunt?
everyone in the Earth Kingdom and Azula are massive cunts
You ain't throwing shade at Toph are you? Quote from: Jono on April 22, 2019, 02:41:27 AMeveryone in the Earth Kingdom and Azula are massive cunts
azula being a cunt is justified given that she's a villainwhat makes her a lame character is her tendency to be sue-ish
Quote from: Verbatim on April 22, 2019, 09:39:31 PMazula being a cunt is justified given that she's a villainwhat makes her a lame character is her tendency to be sue-ishHow is she sue-ish at all when her character's goal, not the way she's written, is perfection? She's not perfect whatsoever, and that's fucking foreshadowed in the first episode she appears in:("One hair out of place...")As Jono mentioned, she's terribly lacking in all social skills (look at Zuko Alone for perfect example of how she uses fear, not genuine social maneuvering, to keep friends - Azula attempts a cartwheel and fails, Ty Lee attempts one and does an amazing one with a flourish at the end, Azula pushes her down and laughs), and lacks a basic grasp of how love, empathy, and paternal affection operate.If you think she's perfect in any way, you severely missed the point of the writing of the character, and it makes me worry about how many other basic points in the show you also failed to grasp, out of laziness or pure lack of literary skill.
the true definition of a mary sue is an author insert
Quote from: Carmen on April 28, 2019, 09:39:46 PMthe true definition of a mary sue is an author insertnopesometimes it's a manifestation of a writer's desire to create the coolest possible characterwhich is why it backfires so hard and so often when writers write like this
There's no set definition for this type of character,
Quote from: Carmen on April 30, 2019, 12:50:28 PMThere's no set definition for this type of character,i was always well-aware of this, and i thought that you were tooโthe whole idea is that i think my definition is better than yours, because it's much broader and captures the essence of the common tendency for writers to want to write "perfect" characters, whether it be a weak attempt at inserting a projection of themselves into the narrative, or a projection of their innate desire to write a perfect character that everyone will think is cool (which is where azula lies)you can like her all you want, but your overzealous appreciation comes across to me as shallow fetishization more than anything else, which has always been extremely off-putting
note that one part:normally, well-written character flaws are supposed to make you like the character less for the purpose of the narrative, or at the very least, hope that they improve themselves over the course of the story
But these flaws just make us love the character more.
Quote from: Carmen on April 30, 2019, 01:42:04 PMBut these flaws just make us love the character more.nopeit seems to me that you just like shit characters
LOL dude, I'm far from alone in loving these people. You just have the bleakest outlook in the world, and it certainly extends to how you feel about fictional worlds and the characters within them.
i actually need to rewatch book 3 i think, my memories of it are very spotty in spite of it getting the most praise