I don't know what the fuck youre saying but I know its bullshit.

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The S'pher still invade Earth in 2654 but for different reason; they long ago declared themselves as justice bringers and dedicated to removing injustice from the universe. Humans were largely oppressive towards other species and are seen as offenders to this reasoning and must be eliminated.

Meh... seems like something a moralfag would write.

Aye. I'd side with option two.

Although, you have to be careful when considering the "All Huumans r bad" trope as well. You can't win no matter what direction you take to be honest.

But your second option seems more interesting and creative. The S'pher represent an absolute. No compromise in justice or punishment. Humanity sits in a middle ground. They can be good, they can be bad. And the Sh'kaali represent chaos. But they aren't neccessirly bad.

Think about universes. Every universe, in theory, has the potential for a different set of laws. So, if one universe were to "bleed" into another, the results would be varied, potentially being benificial, or chatastrophic. If you ever read Asimov's "The God's Themselves," this will bring up the point I'm trying to make a little better.

In this scenario, I don't necessarily see the Sh'kaali as being bad, but because their universe operates on a different set of physics and laws than ours, their contact with our own universal mesh is devastating, and thus they are seen as a threat. Chaos.

Quote from: Sandtrap on November 23, 2014, 05:41:47 PM

Aye. I'd side with option two.

Although, you have to be careful when considering the "All Huumans r bad" trope as well. You can't win no matter what direction you take to be honest.

But your second option seems more interesting and creative. The S'pher represent an absolute. No compromise in justice or punishment. Humanity sits in a middle ground. They can be good, they can be bad. And the Sh'kaali represent chaos. But they aren't neccessirly bad.

Think about universes. Every universe, in theory, has the potential for a different set of laws. So, if one universe were to "bleed" into another, the results would be varied, potentially being benificial, or chatastrophic. If you ever read Asimov's "The God's Themselves," this will bring up the point I'm trying to make a little better.

In this scenario, I don't necessarily see the Sh'kaali as being bad, but because their universe operates on a different set of physics and laws than ours, their contact with our own universal mesh is devastating, and thus they are seen as a threat. Chaos.

I don't see many universes with the 'humans are inherently evil' reasoning. Plus, they aren't without reasoning in their actions; first contact with aliens was not peaceful and left many hateful, scared and generally pretty shitty towards other species. When they gained control due to having a good economy and general underhanded work, they were quick to install a pro-human regime. Of course, there's a militia pro-alien faction that also consists of a lot of humans, but the S'pher are indiscriminate, all or nothing as far as they care.

Quote from: BaconShelf on November 23, 2014, 05:47:40 PM

Quote from: Sandtrap on November 23, 2014, 05:41:47 PM

Aye. I'd side with option two.

Although, you have to be careful when considering the "All Huumans r bad" trope as well. You can't win no matter what direction you take to be honest.

But your second option seems more interesting and creative. The S'pher represent an absolute. No compromise in justice or punishment. Humanity sits in a middle ground. They can be good, they can be bad. And the Sh'kaali represent chaos. But they aren't neccessirly bad.

Think about universes. Every universe, in theory, has the potential for a different set of laws. So, if one universe were to "bleed" into another, the results would be varied, potentially being benificial, or chatastrophic. If you ever read Asimov's "The God's Themselves," this will bring up the point I'm trying to make a little better.

In this scenario, I don't necessarily see the Sh'kaali as being bad, but because their universe operates on a different set of physics and laws than ours, their contact with our own universal mesh is devastating, and thus they are seen as a threat. Chaos.

I don't see many universes with the 'humans are inherently evil' reasoning. Plus, they aren't without reasoning in their actions; first contact with aliens was not peaceful and left many hateful, scared and generally pretty shitty towards other species. When they gained control due to having a good economy and general underhanded work, they were quick to install a pro-human regime. Of course, there's a militia pro-alien faction that also consists of a lot of humans, but the S'pher are indiscriminate, all or nothing as far as they care.

Like I said. Middle ground. And it's a central point I've used before in bits and pieces of my own stuff from time to time. The first experience was bumpy, left a sour taste in everybody's mouth, and now they all don't want to play nice.

You keep givin' me scenarios and one day I'll end up writing a fanfic in your respective universe. You're making good room for characters, which is what I enjoy. You're the dude with the microscope on armies, I'm the dude with camera on singular people and their actions.

Good fun.