Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 09, 2014, 05:54:08 PMQuote from: MyNameIsDustin on October 09, 2014, 05:51:47 PMQuote from: The Hån on October 09, 2014, 05:50:19 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on October 09, 2014, 05:46:56 PMQuote from: The Hån on October 09, 2014, 05:40:56 PMdefuq is going on here?*Drama*what's up with this "post approval" shit?It's your answer to "what's going on here." They told you it was drama because they know you wouldn't like what's really going on.Or it's because I can't be bothered to type it out for the 14th time today. I've been at this crap for 8 hours now and I'm getting a little weary of it.I'll explain it briefly when I've had a break Han <.<it's ok m8. i hate reiterating the same story as well.
Quote from: MyNameIsDustin on October 09, 2014, 05:51:47 PMQuote from: The Hån on October 09, 2014, 05:50:19 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on October 09, 2014, 05:46:56 PMQuote from: The Hån on October 09, 2014, 05:40:56 PMdefuq is going on here?*Drama*what's up with this "post approval" shit?It's your answer to "what's going on here." They told you it was drama because they know you wouldn't like what's really going on.Or it's because I can't be bothered to type it out for the 14th time today. I've been at this crap for 8 hours now and I'm getting a little weary of it.I'll explain it briefly when I've had a break Han <.<
Quote from: The Hån on October 09, 2014, 05:50:19 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on October 09, 2014, 05:46:56 PMQuote from: The Hån on October 09, 2014, 05:40:56 PMdefuq is going on here?*Drama*what's up with this "post approval" shit?It's your answer to "what's going on here." They told you it was drama because they know you wouldn't like what's really going on.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 09, 2014, 05:46:56 PMQuote from: The Hån on October 09, 2014, 05:40:56 PMdefuq is going on here?*Drama*what's up with this "post approval" shit?
Quote from: The Hån on October 09, 2014, 05:40:56 PMdefuq is going on here?*Drama*
defuq is going on here?
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Quote from: The Hån on October 09, 2014, 05:56:33 PMThe brief version of today's events is thus.More drama and shit stirring among members targeting Kiyo and Noelle, again, resulting in a sprawl of threads. Stricter and clearer rules are implemented to allow for targeting of personal attacks and to patch holes in the CoC that existed because it hadn't been updated in a long time. Then some tantruming from various users, people 'leaving', more arguing and then claims of moderator bias over how some of these threads were handled.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 09, 2014, 05:59:54 PMthen claims of moderator bias over how some of these threads were handled.Isn't the claims of moderator bias what started this all? Flaming and insults going entirely unchecked against most while doing the same to Noelle or Vien would be reprimanded? At least, that's what was claimed.
then claims of moderator bias over how some of these threads were handled.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 09, 2014, 05:59:54 PMQuote from: The Hån on October 09, 2014, 05:56:33 PMThe brief version of today's events is thus.More drama and shit stirring among members targeting Kiyo and Noelle, again, resulting in a sprawl of threads. Stricter and clearer rules are implemented to allow for targeting of personal attacks and to patch holes in the CoC that existed because it hadn't been updated in a long time. Then some tantruming from various users, people 'leaving', more arguing and then claims of moderator bias over how some of these threads were handled.oh. so in other words.>ppl act like dicks to users>new rules say dont be dicks>said ppl get butthurt.
Ftr to the other mods, sorry I haven't been involved much in all this today. I've been busy.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on October 09, 2014, 06:06:54 PMI can't really say a lot more though, I'm sure you understand the position of information disclosure. To be honest, this has always been one of my main gripes with forums like this. It's something I've seen kill more than one community not unlike ours.
I can't really say a lot more though, I'm sure you understand the position of information disclosure.
SpoilerThe following isn't to be taken personally. I honestly don't think any members of this site are bad, the worst I'd describe someone is misguided.Moderating specific members is horrible.That system needs to get removed, ASAP, and I won't support the moderation if it continues. Ban the user if they get out of hand. It's a good idea on paper but it leaves so much room for more anger and bias it's not even funny.Yeah, I get it's to try and stop inflammatory posts that cause pages of stupid internet drama, but I don't support censorship. If this site is so shitty that one idiotic response causes a hoard the mods can't handle then:A) The moderation is completely ineffective, since clearly people don't care enough to watch what they postor B) This site has become such a circle jerk that it isn't going to survive long anyway.As someone who isn't involved in any of this crapfest:The drama needs to be stopped. This is the first time I've had issues with it so I'm not going to go crazy. But if this spirals out of control again I'm positive this site will die.I feel that this recent incident was handled correctly in regards to the new rules.I'm probably going to regret this, but I'm unhappy with the the lack of foresight. It should have been obvious that certain people in certain positions would stir trouble. Anyone, not to brown nose, but promoting you was probably the best reaction to the recent events. It shows I can at least trust this site to stick together a little longer.Overall the increased popularity of the site was incredibly bad timing, combined with Anarchy weekend I think a lot of new members were exposed to less than ideal conditions.Moderation Bias should no longer be an issue, if it becomes a popular complaint again I hope more strict actions are taken.As a final note, I do support temporary posting restrictions, but only in emergencies (when there is too much going on for the moderation team to handle and they need time to sort through posts). That being said, temporary restrictions shouldn't last a noticeably long period, and I'd only use them to not anger a member with a ban that was placed before fully understanding a situation.
Hey guys, biased moderation doesn't exist, that's why we're not punishing Nuka for blatantly breaking the rules. We're also going to start banning you if you don't like the rules, because freedom to voice your opinion isn't something we value if we don't like you.Are you seriously seeing this happen Cheat? Never mind the new rule against insults, but the fact that Nuka gets to break the rules and no one else can is complete and utter bullshit. Lock the fucking thread, that's what's fair. Reporting does absolutely nothing.
Quote from: Duke Nuka on October 09, 2014, 06:58:38 PMTemper, temper.http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=6759.msg147434Clearly reports do nothing anymore when the mods are biased as all hell.
Temper, temper.
Quote from: Nick McIntyre on October 09, 2014, 07:03:10 PMQuote from: MyNameIsDustin on October 09, 2014, 06:54:15 PMHey guys, biased moderation doesn't exist, that's why we're not punishing Nuka for blatantly breaking the rules. We're also going to start banning you if you don't like the rules, because freedom to voice your opinion isn't something we value if we don't like you.Are you seriously seeing this happen Cheat? Never mind the new rule against insults, but the fact that Nuka gets to break the rules and no one else can is complete and utter bullshit. Lock the fucking thread, that's what's fair. Reporting does absolutely nothing.Will you just stop with the rage at an obvious joke thread? The mods already said you'll be banned if you keep bringing it up. :/Slash said not to talk about it. Slash is not the ultimate authority here. And clearly this is the thread to talk about biased moderation. And no, it is not in the rules that you can insult people if you are joking. Anyone can say an insult and at the end just say it's a joke. They're letting it slide because of biased moderation.
Quote from: MyNameIsDustin on October 09, 2014, 06:54:15 PMHey guys, biased moderation doesn't exist, that's why we're not punishing Nuka for blatantly breaking the rules. We're also going to start banning you if you don't like the rules, because freedom to voice your opinion isn't something we value if we don't like you.Are you seriously seeing this happen Cheat? Never mind the new rule against insults, but the fact that Nuka gets to break the rules and no one else can is complete and utter bullshit. Lock the fucking thread, that's what's fair. Reporting does absolutely nothing.Will you just stop with the rage at an obvious joke thread? The mods already said you'll be banned if you keep bringing it up. :/
Quote from: Cheat on October 09, 2014, 07:08:24 PMQuote from: MyNameIsDustin on October 09, 2014, 07:01:20 PMQuote from: Duke Nuka on October 09, 2014, 06:58:38 PMTemper, temper.http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=6759.msg147434Clearly reports do nothing anymore when the mods are biased as all hell.Alright, I was going to PM you, but you seem to be pulling for biased mods and our shadowy hand manipulating everything just to ruin your day. I'll say this publicly.You need to stop stirring up trouble like this. You're reporting things that ought not be reported and you're being overly dramatic when a moderator does anything against your will. So I'm just giving you a fair warning to cool your boots and take a breather. Go outside or play some Density. Come back and talk about this all civilized like. If not, I'm going to have to ban you.I've only reported insulting posts have I not?
Quote from: MyNameIsDustin on October 09, 2014, 07:01:20 PMQuote from: Duke Nuka on October 09, 2014, 06:58:38 PMTemper, temper.http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=6759.msg147434Clearly reports do nothing anymore when the mods are biased as all hell.Alright, I was going to PM you, but you seem to be pulling for biased mods and our shadowy hand manipulating everything just to ruin your day. I'll say this publicly.You need to stop stirring up trouble like this. You're reporting things that ought not be reported and you're being overly dramatic when a moderator does anything against your will. So I'm just giving you a fair warning to cool your boots and take a breather. Go outside or play some Density. Come back and talk about this all civilized like. If not, I'm going to have to ban you.
Is a Monitor like a ninja? Or lower? What powers do they have
Regarding the issue of Biased Moderation.
