God fucking dammit.

one of the main reasons i didnt join Sep7 for so long was because i didnt trust Kiyo as a Mod.
Septy and LC really pulled me into joining. bunch of faggots.

prais septy

I'd just like to say a few words here. I understand in the past that you folks have had bad run-ins with Kiyo. I can't point any fingers or rightfully decide what's true or not because I wasn't there for the problems. And I won't because it's none of my business. However. What is my business is that Kiyo is a friend to me.

The amount of flak she got for just being Kiyo always seemed ridiculous. She may have had her ugly moments but compared to the other real pieces of fucking work around here, she was pretty fucking mild. And looking at these comments is just sad. Fuckin' hell way to hold a grudge people. Way to hold onto something so trivial and pointless and run it into the fucking ground.

A month or so back, I talked to Kiyo before I resigned as monitor. And she told me that she was considering leaving her mod position. She didn't like dealing with all the drama, and most of all, she was tired of feeling unwelcome. And you can't say that she wasn't.

It's like as soon as somebody heard the name Kiyo pitchforks were brought out and doors were locked.

Worst of all, Kiyo doesn't say much about her personal life. So I'll say it for her. She's been fighting off depression for a while now. She's in the same fight I am right now. It's nobody's fault here about what happened. And ultimately it was her choice.

But when you're depressed everything hits you harder. Everything has more weight and you're just not up for some things you can normally take.

So Kiyo is gone. The only other place I talked to her was on Skype. And she removed me. That's unsettling. That's very unsettling. At least, when I'm in the middle of a mood swing and being all screwy, I notify friends about what's coming.

But she was upset enough to remove me which means that this, if it wasn't obvious before, hit her hard. And now I'm worried about her because I know that she had me as a friend, one other person I vaguely know by name, and maybe, maybe a few others.

So now I'm going to try and pick up the pieces because that's what I do. I'm not pointing fingers or blaming anybody. All of these things are people's choices. But right now, counting up the list, this site has taken and cut off several friends of mine from my contact.

Noelle, Vien, Floppytub. And now Kiyo.

Admirals is wound up in his own life and so is Goji. So all that really leaves is Nuka and frankly I'm surprised he's still around here today considering all the bullshit.

But the bottom line here is, I'm tired of this crap. People here say and do things without ever really wagering what they stand to do and the harm they can cause. And some of you, naturally, will say that words are just words and that this is the internet. Stop taking it so seriously. That's fair.

But words hold more ability than you think. Words are everything. Words were never designed to be empty and devoid of feeling. And they never are used for that purpose. Words are used when somebody wants to speak their mind and get their point across. And on the internet, free of physical boundries and limitations it's easier to to let all the ugly shit in your head out. It's easy to be a troll or an asshole because there are no consequences. Not consequences that you can visibly see.

You don't see what your words do to some people on the other side of the screen. Maybe Kiyo could have done more to brighten up her appearance for people. And I feel like she genuinely tried. She for the most part avoided or tried to avoid doing shit that got her the reputation she had in the first place.

And nobody ever fucking stopped and thought about the fact that maybe all those boos and jeers on her name had an effect on her. I'll tell you something interesting.

Kiyo approached me one day, out of the blue. I'd heard the rumors. Heard the stories. And already knew of her reputation. But I said hello with open arms and no bias and I found a friend. I found much more than I ever expected to find from her as a friend.

The petty and spiteful nature of some of the people here and on bungie.net, in fact, in general, is disgusting to me. I could name names here and now. And I'm sitting right on the edge of losing my shit to another mood swing because I am fed up with people's bullshit. This site has generated so much bullshit and it's always the mother fuckers who cause the real trouble that get away with it scott free.

But I'm not letting that happen. I'm not going to explode because I have something to look forward to now. I'm a little bit more lively at good news from a good doctor. But right now I am not impressed. I am not impressed with you folks. But I won't raise a fuss or cause trouble because it's pointless.

Instead, I'm going to see what I can do for a friend of mine because at the moment, unlike you folks, I can see and I know how hard this hit Kiyo. Everybody makes mistakes and I'm sure if I was involved in some of the drama she stirred up in the past maybe I'd see things differently. Maybe I'd be part of the crowds that instantly shun her name on sight.

Maybe not. Because I seem to be the only mother fucker here who knows when to let go of a grudge. And I try my best not to cause shit. But you're making it difficult Sep7agon. You're making it really fucking difficult these days.

now who will call elegaic a dingo

I am fine with this.

Quote from: Kupo on January 17, 2015, 01:13:26 AM

Quote from: Sandtrap on January 16, 2015, 11:54:24 PM

The amount of flak she got for just being Kiyo always seemed ridiculous. She may have had her ugly moments but compared to the other real pieces of fucking work around here, she was pretty fucking mild. And looking at these comments is just sad. Fuckin' hell way to hold a grudge people. Way to hold onto something so trivial and pointless and run it into the fucking ground.

A month or so back, I talked to Kiyo before I resigned as monitor. And she told me that she was considering leaving her mod position. She didn't like dealing with all the drama, and most of all, she was tired of feeling unwelcome. And you can't say that she wasn't.

>harassing users
>revealing anons

Playing the victim card, I see.

Nobody's fucking perfect. Give me a fucking break dude. I've done some stupid shit too. Everybody has. A lot of the stupid shit I've done was done because I was unbalanced too. It's a mood you slip into without even seeing it.

Regardless it's no excuse. And yet you can'y lay the blame entirely either.

The bottom line is, nobody is scott free 100%. But that doesn't mean there's no irrideemable qualities in people. Nobody's completely good, and nobody's completely bad. And I acknowledge that Kiyo had some bad sides.

But what you folks don't seem to recognize is that there were good ones too. They were just damn well hidden under a lot of pain and hurt.

I would love to have half as many second chances as Kiyo got.

Fine. You folks keep holding your fucking grudges. Not my fucking business. The past isn't either because I wasn't around for it. And once again none of you seem to fucking get it.

"the past"

You mean fucking yesterday?

Quote from: Kupo on January 17, 2015, 01:48:00 AM

Quote from: Sandtrap on January 17, 2015, 01:46:40 AM

Fine. You folks keep holding your fucking grudges. Not my fucking business. The past isn't either because I wasn't around for it. And once again none of you seem to fucking get it.

"the past"

You mean fucking yesterday?

Well considering it's yesterday, you're damn fucking right it's the past. It's done and over with now to be sure.

Yep. Time to let it go, Sandtrap.

Quote from: Sandtrap on January 17, 2015, 01:51:18 AM

Quote from: Kupo on January 17, 2015, 01:48:00 AM

Quote from: Sandtrap on January 17, 2015, 01:46:40 AM

Fine. You folks keep holding your fucking grudges. Not my fucking business. The past isn't either because I wasn't around for it. And once again none of you seem to fucking get it.

"the past"

You mean fucking yesterday?

Well considering it's yesterday, you're damn fucking right it's the past. It's done and over with now to be sure.

Yep. Time to let it go, Sandtrap.

You remember when Dusty boy single handedly sunk the fundraiser a friend of mine set up over at Bungie? It took me a day to cool my shit off. One day, and things were back to normal.

I acknowledge that dusty boy is spiteful grudge holding sack of old sacks and that he's a "troll." But I hold no ill will and don't go out of my way to attack him. It took me one day to get over the fact that he wandered over there and sunk a thread.

I don't hold grudges. Not for long. And either should you folks.

But it's your choice. See where it fucking gets you. Toxicity breeds more toxicity. Just you fucking watch.

Quote from: Jet Wave on January 17, 2015, 01:59:11 AM

Well...

No more Spider threads...


But now Second Class and Elegiac will scream at the top of their lungs trying to take credit for all of this.


I'm not sure this is worth the cost.

Elegiac- yeah probably. but no one takes him seriously anyway.
SecondClass- I don't really think so, but...meh

The fact that no one will take them seriously is the reason why they'll be trying to get that notoriety.

I still don't see any point in holding grudges over the internet. I mean, real life is understandable, but everything here is behind a screen where you don't really know the people you're talking to. What the hell is the point in that?