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Do you have one? Is it worth the investment?

Thinking of teaching myself programming, but I want to start from the ground-up, ie learning about hardware



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Worth the investment? They're like $30. And learning about hardware won't really tell you anything about programming.

They're pretty fun to play around with. I set one up as a media player for my TV when they first came out.
Last Edit: February 05, 2016, 11:36:02 AM by Turkey Sanders


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And learning about hardware won't really tell you anything about programming.

Well I suppose It can't hurt to learn about it anyway. 

And another thing I'm not sure about, what language do you use to mess about with it? The only computer language I kind of know is BASIC, but that's been obsolete for around 30 years now.


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Well, my instinct would be that learning software first is more important and logical.

I can't think of a good way to explain it, except that you need to understand the thought process before getting down to the nitty-gritty. The invention of numbers came before the invention of the abacus, you know?

EDIT: I can't forget about the topic here. Raspberry Pi always sounded really cool but I never used one. I'm sure I would have preferred learning with a Pi and Python to the dying Java language that I ended up with instead...

*ahem* but I'd say a Pi is certainly the most engaging way I can think of to learn about programming. I say go for it.
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Well, my instinct would be that learning software first is more important and logical.

I can't think of a good way to explain it, except that you need to understand the thought process before getting down to the nitty-gritty. The invention of numbers came before the invention of the calculator, you know?

 I'm not sure I understand what you're saying? The first computers had no software, they were mechanically driven machines. Then they used paper with punch-holes and Then used vacccum tubes, etc. So didn't the computer come before the software?


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Well, my instinct would be that learning software first is more important and logical.

I can't think of a good way to explain it, except that you need to understand the thought process before getting down to the nitty-gritty. The invention of numbers came before the invention of the calculator, you know?

 I'm not sure I understand what you're saying? The first computers had no software, they were mechanically driven machines. Then they used paper with punch-holes and Then used vacccum tubes, etc. So didn't the computer come before the software?
Those computers would have been pointless without algorithms (there would be no reason to invent computers otherwise), with algorithms being the blueprints for software.
Last Edit: February 05, 2016, 12:06:10 PM by Kupo & the Two G-strings


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Well, my instinct would be that learning software first is more important and logical.

I can't think of a good way to explain it, except that you need to understand the thought process before getting down to the nitty-gritty. The invention of numbers came before the invention of the calculator, you know?

 I'm not sure I understand what you're saying? The first computers had no software, they were mechanically driven machines. Then they used paper with punch-holes and Then used vacccum tubes, etc. So didn't the computer come before the software?
Those computers would have been pointless without algorithms (there would be no reason to invent computers otherwise), with algorithms being the blueprints for software.

So you're saying it would be best to learn math first then build a mechanical gear-driven computer then learn a language?


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And learning about hardware won't really tell you anything about programming.

Well I suppose It can't hurt to learn about it anyway. 

And another thing I'm not sure about, what language do you use to mess about with it? The only computer language I kind of know is BASIC, but that's been obsolete for around 30 years now.

I put Android on mine. It's not like you need to build your own operating system or know how to code to use one.


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Well, my instinct would be that learning software first is more important and logical.

I can't think of a good way to explain it, except that you need to understand the thought process before getting down to the nitty-gritty. The invention of numbers came before the invention of the calculator, you know?

 I'm not sure I understand what you're saying? The first computers had no software, they were mechanically driven machines. Then they used paper with punch-holes and Then used vacccum tubes, etc. So didn't the computer come before the software?
Those computers would have been pointless without algorithms (there would be no reason to invent computers otherwise), with algorithms being the blueprints for software.

So you're saying it would be best to learn math first then build a mechanical gear-driven computer then learn a language?
No. Don't be a smartass.

I mean, I guess you could learn computer science backwards, but I'm not sure what you'd get out of learning hardware without the prerequisites to understand it first. (And like Turkey said, hardware won't teach you much about programming, anyway)

But going back on topic here, will you make an unboxing thread when you get it? (pretty please)
Last Edit: February 05, 2016, 01:06:17 PM by Kupo & the Two G-strings


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Well, my instinct would be that learning software first is more important and logical.

I can't think of a good way to explain it, except that you need to understand the thought process before getting down to the nitty-gritty. The invention of numbers came before the invention of the calculator, you know?

 I'm not sure I understand what you're saying? The first computers had no software, they were mechanically driven machines. Then they used paper with punch-holes and Then used vacccum tubes, etc. So didn't the computer come before the software?
Those computers would have been pointless without algorithms (there would be no reason to invent computers otherwise), with algorithms being the blueprints for software.

So you're saying it would be best to learn math first then build a mechanical gear-driven computer then learn a language?
No. Don't be a smartass.

I mean, I guess you could learn computer science backwards, but I'm not sure what you'd get out of learning hardware without the prerequisites to understand it first. (And like Turkey said, hardware won't teach you much about programming, anyway)

But going back on topic here, will you make an unboxing thread when you get it? (pretty please)

I'm really sorry man, I literally just opened it up. I can put it back in the box and take it out again but it wouldn't be the same :(


btw, I actually remembered I had one bought from 2012, never-opened in my attic so I just used that one
Last Edit: February 05, 2016, 01:19:42 PM by OnionBeetle


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Well, my instinct would be that learning software first is more important and logical.

I can't think of a good way to explain it, except that you need to understand the thought process before getting down to the nitty-gritty. The invention of numbers came before the invention of the calculator, you know?

 I'm not sure I understand what you're saying? The first computers had no software, they were mechanically driven machines. Then they used paper with punch-holes and Then used vacccum tubes, etc. So didn't the computer come before the software?
Those computers would have been pointless without algorithms (there would be no reason to invent computers otherwise), with algorithms being the blueprints for software.

So you're saying it would be best to learn math first then build a mechanical gear-driven computer then learn a language?
No. Don't be a smartass.

I mean, I guess you could learn computer science backwards, but I'm not sure what you'd get out of learning hardware without the prerequisites to understand it first. (And like Turkey said, hardware won't teach you much about programming, anyway)

But going back on topic here, will you make an unboxing thread when you get it? (pretty please)

I'm really sorry man, I literally just opened it up. I can put it back in the box and take it out again but it wouldn't be the same :(


btw, I actually remembered I had one bought from 2012, never-opened in my attic so I just used that one
oh >.> I was thinking you didn't have one yet

What's it like when you take it out? Setting it up, stuff like that.


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Well, my instinct would be that learning software first is more important and logical.

I can't think of a good way to explain it, except that you need to understand the thought process before getting down to the nitty-gritty. The invention of numbers came before the invention of the calculator, you know?

 I'm not sure I understand what you're saying? The first computers had no software, they were mechanically driven machines. Then they used paper with punch-holes and Then used vacccum tubes, etc. So didn't the computer come before the software?
Those computers would have been pointless without algorithms (there would be no reason to invent computers otherwise), with algorithms being the blueprints for software.

So you're saying it would be best to learn math first then build a mechanical gear-driven computer then learn a language?
No. Don't be a smartass.

I mean, I guess you could learn computer science backwards, but I'm not sure what you'd get out of learning hardware without the prerequisites to understand it first. (And like Turkey said, hardware won't teach you much about programming, anyway)

But going back on topic here, will you make an unboxing thread when you get it? (pretty please)

I'm really sorry man, I literally just opened it up. I can put it back in the box and take it out again but it wouldn't be the same :(


btw, I actually remembered I had one bought from 2012, never-opened in my attic so I just used that one
oh >.> I was thinking you didn't have one yet

What's it like when you take it out? Setting it up, stuff like that.

I don't know yet, it came with no MicroUSB power, SD card or anything like that, so I'm just scavenging for parts around my garage. I'm currently powering it with an old phone charger and I'm trying to hook it up to my CRT TV,
All I need is a HDMI to AV converter. Never thought I would need one of those!


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I have one that I use for retropie.

If you can, get a raspberry pi zero, it's only $5 and it's decently powerful. its more powerful than the first pi, but not quite as powerful as the pi 2 iirc. It'd be a good entry point if you are really tight on money.


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I have one that I use for retropie.

If you can, get a raspberry pi zero, it's only $5 and it's decently powerful. its more powerful than the first pi, but not quite as powerful as the pi 2 iirc. It'd be a good entry point if you are really tight on money.


Yeah, I remembered that I bought one back in 2013 and forgot about it. So I just opened it up this evening and it's a Model B. I'm not sure if that's better than or worse than the one's you listed though as I'm not certain about the different  models

I'd be really happy if I can just use it to take notes/save and edit text files on the go.

What games do you play?


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It's a popular mini-computer that is useful for all sorts of things. It's good for teaching kids to get into computing as well.
The raspberry pi is pretty much only limited by it's RAM tbh.


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I have one that I use for retropie.

If you can, get a raspberry pi zero, it's only $5 and it's decently powerful. its more powerful than the first pi, but not quite as powerful as the pi 2 iirc. It'd be a good entry point if you are really tight on money.


Yeah, I remembered that I bought one back in 2013 and forgot about it. So I just opened it up this evening and it's a Model B. I'm not sure if that's better than or worse than the one's you listed though as I'm not certain about the different  models

I'd be really happy if I can just use it to take notes/save and edit text files on the go.

What games do you play?

The model B is fine, you don't need to buy a different one. You should be able to do what you want without trouble.

I have a 32gb sd card filled with hundreds of old games on it. Played through Pokemon fire red and emerald over the summer. I don't use it every day, but it's nice to have lying around if I'm ever bored. Reminds me that I need to play through mgs1...