Might buy a 1983 Firebird with 305 V8 soon.

Mattie G Indahouse · October 11, 2016, 03:17:37 AM

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That type of car along with your Vette I would love to have for joyriding, but why not get something newer which can also handle winter better for your everyday car?

because that's more expensive and id rather spend my money on a cool car i like than something temporary ill only use for half the year

It would still make more sense to safe up for a decent vehicle which was made in the 2000's than to waste it on some car which is older than you by a good amount of years or stupidity like by buying an old Walkman for $100.

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Elai · October 11, 2016, 06:17:58 AM

Quote from: Renly's peach on October 11, 2016, 03:17:37 AM

Quote from: Young Blood on October 10, 2016, 09:29:25 AM
Quote from: Renly's peach on October 10, 2016, 03:47:02 AM
That type of car along with your Vette I would love to have for joyriding, but why not get something newer which can also handle winter better for your everyday car?

because that's more expensive and id rather spend my money on a cool car i like than something temporary ill only use for half the year
It would still make more sense to safe up for a decent vehicle which was made in the 2000's than to waste it on some car which is older than you by a good amount of years or stupidity like by buying an old Walkman for $100.

lots of people drive old cars in the winter. im not communting much so it doesnt really matter.

and unlike the walkman this makes far more financial sense because of how cheap it is.

DAS B00T x2 · October 11, 2016, 06:44:49 AM

Quote from: Renly's peach on October 11, 2016, 03:17:37 AM

Quote from: Young Blood on October 10, 2016, 09:29:25 AM
Quote from: Renly's peach on October 10, 2016, 03:47:02 AM
That type of car along with your Vette I would love to have for joyriding, but why not get something newer which can also handle winter better for your everyday car?

because that's more expensive and id rather spend my money on a cool car i like than something temporary ill only use for half the year
It would still make more sense to safe up for a decent vehicle which was made in the 2000's than to waste it on some car which is older than you by a good amount of years or stupidity like by buying an old Walkman for $100.

Snow tires and a bag of cat litter in the trunk and you're golden. I only ever had problems in the snow with my '78 when I was driving around on bald tires.

Elai · October 11, 2016, 06:46:52 AM

yeah

thank you, das

Dietrich Six · October 11, 2016, 07:24:37 AM

Minivans don't mix with snow, especially on bald tires. Worst winter of my life.

DAS B00T x2 · October 11, 2016, 07:49:45 AM

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Minivans don't mix with snow, especially on bald tires. Worst winter of my life.

gotta get a man van, bro. My buddy's pulled people out of snowbanks with his Astrovan... and it's just rwd.

Dietrich Six · October 11, 2016, 08:44:06 AM

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Minivans don't mix with snow, especially on bald tires. Worst winter of my life.
gotta get a man van, bro. My buddy's pulled people out of snowbanks with his Astrovan... and it's just rwd.

Y'all can keep the snow, I'll be here where it's warm

DAS B00T x2 · October 11, 2016, 08:45:32 AM

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Minivans don't mix with snow, especially on bald tires. Worst winter of my life.
gotta get a man van, bro. My buddy's pulled people out of snowbanks with his Astrovan... and it's just rwd.

Y'all can keep the snow, I'll be here where it's warm

faggot

Dietrich Six · October 11, 2016, 08:49:49 AM

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Quote from: Dietrich Six on October 11, 2016, 07:24:37 AM
Minivans don't mix with snow, especially on bald tires. Worst winter of my life.
gotta get a man van, bro. My buddy's pulled people out of snowbanks with his Astrovan... and it's just rwd.

Y'all can keep the snow, I'll be here where it's warm
faggot

I got a Scooby now anyway, snow can't hold me.

DAS B00T x2 · October 11, 2016, 09:08:45 AM

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Quote from: Dietrich Six on October 11, 2016, 07:24:37 AM
Minivans don't mix with snow, especially on bald tires. Worst winter of my life.
gotta get a man van, bro. My buddy's pulled people out of snowbanks with his Astrovan... and it's just rwd.

Y'all can keep the snow, I'll be here where it's warm
faggot

I got a Scooby now anyway, snow can't hold me.

so when did you learn that you're a lesbian?

Dietrich Six · October 11, 2016, 04:01:43 PM

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Quote from: Dietrich Six on October 11, 2016, 07:24:37 AM
Minivans don't mix with snow, especially on bald tires. Worst winter of my life.
gotta get a man van, bro. My buddy's pulled people out of snowbanks with his Astrovan... and it's just rwd.

Y'all can keep the snow, I'll be here where it's warm
faggot

I got a Scooby now anyway, snow can't hold me.
so when did you learn that you're a lesbian?

Almost immediately

Elai · October 11, 2016, 06:09:37 PM

how difficult/expensive would it be to swap the base 305 with the 350 if this guy doesn't come through?

there's another transam with the 5.7 that i could buy for cheap but the transmission needs to be fixed and its a gross yellow colour so i've been looking at v6 versions of the car for potential purchases

DAS B00T x2 · October 11, 2016, 06:28:30 PM

Quote from: Young Blood on October 11, 2016, 06:09:37 PM

how difficult/expensive would it be to swap the base 305 with the 350 if this guy doesn't come through?

there's another transam with the 5.7 that i could buy for cheap but the transmission needs to be fixed and its a gross yellow colour so i've been looking at v6 versions of the car for potential purchases

Wiring is gonna be the only dumb part. You might need to swap the radiators too, 350's need better cooling.
Other than that, swapping a small block chevy for another small block chevy is literally drag and drop. 350, 305, 355, 383, they're all the same short block.

But, given that these are TPI motors and therefore computerized, that's why I'm saying wiring could be troublesome to get everything 100% right. I really don't know jack shit about how they did it for these motors and if you'll need to transplant the harness or not.
If you're gonna do the effort of an engine swap though, and I assume this car is for fun mostly, go with an older small block. Build a 300 horse 350 rather easily.

Elai · October 11, 2016, 06:34:33 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on October 11, 2016, 06:28:30 PM

If you're gonna do the effort of an engine swap though, and I assume this car is for fun mostly, go with an older small block. Build a 300 horse 350 rather easily.

how much older should i be looking? like, l81 or something?

DAS B00T x2 · October 11, 2016, 06:44:33 PM

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If you're gonna do the effort of an engine swap though, and I assume this car is for fun mostly, go with an older small block. Build a 300 horse 350 rather easily.

how much older should i be looking? like, l81 or something?

L82 or L48 is a nice motor.

Elai · October 11, 2016, 07:38:14 PM

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If you're gonna do the effort of an engine swap though, and I assume this car is for fun mostly, go with an older small block. Build a 300 horse 350 rather easily.

how much older should i be looking? like, l81 or something?
L82 or L48 is a nice motor.

which one of those is better

and how much do they go for?

DAS B00T x2 · October 11, 2016, 07:50:49 PM

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Quote from: Young Blood on October 11, 2016, 06:34:33 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on October 11, 2016, 06:28:30 PM
If you're gonna do the effort of an engine swap though, and I assume this car is for fun mostly, go with an older small block. Build a 300 horse 350 rather easily.

how much older should i be looking? like, l81 or something?
L82 or L48 is a nice motor.

which one of those is better

and how much do they go for?

82 was a higher compression and therefore more output, otherwise they're both iron blocks with hydraulic cams and a 4bbl making 300+ at the crank with all the accessories removed.
You'd have to look around for motors near you bro. Something that you're gonna have to build should just be couple hundred, then however much in parts you want to drop to go faster. Might get a good build for a grand.
Compare to crate 350 long blocks of moderate performance for around 2-3k, little extra for turnkey.

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Elai · October 11, 2016, 08:58:11 PM

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pic of op:

pretty much

Zonda · October 12, 2016, 01:54:19 AM

Just say fuck it and throw in 2 4-AGE engines my man

DAS B00T x2 · October 12, 2016, 04:20:30 AM

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Just say fuck it and throw in 2 4-AGE engines my man

end your life my dude

Zonda · October 12, 2016, 07:53:18 AM

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end your life my dude

I have been trying to ever since I joined this place

Elai · October 12, 2016, 08:28:23 AM

alrght so the guy in the op is being fucking gay and not responding so im looking at 2 other options

1. 1989 MINT red and black trans am with rebuilt 350 v8 with only 200 km (NOT 200k) and 5 speed manual transmission. never been einter driven. the guy is asking 4900 but i think he'd take 3500. so a bit more expensive but this thing is pristine ... which really only means that ill ruin it by driving in the winter, and for the extra money, id rather not.

2. red 1983 trans am with 305 v8 and some body work (less than the one in OP but enough rust and scratches to make winter driving seem acceptable.) hes asking for 1500, something i could easily do. no emissions test is also nice.

problem is, second guy hasnt responded to me either.

Elai · October 12, 2016, 11:39:07 AM

maybe i should look at a fiero...

Elai · October 12, 2016, 03:13:44 PM

good news. got ahold of this guy selling the red 83. things are looking good. all new brake pads, winter tires. only 3 owners. told him i'd go see the vehicle tomorrow if i can get my mechanic buddy to come with.

Elai · October 12, 2016, 03:29:40 PM

wish it didnt have such a lousy motor as far as performance goes but the 305 is pretty fuel efficient for a v8 so i cant complain

DAS B00T x2 · October 12, 2016, 03:36:19 PM

Quote from: Young Blood on October 12, 2016, 03:29:40 PM

wish it didnt have such a lousy motor as far as performance goes but the 305 is pretty fuel efficient for a v8 so i cant complain

Is it a five speed or a auto?

Elai · October 12, 2016, 04:35:34 PM

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wish it didnt have such a lousy motor as far as performance goes but the 305 is pretty fuel efficient for a v8 so i cant complain
Is it a five speed or a auto?

auto

DAS B00T x2 · October 12, 2016, 04:57:09 PM

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Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on October 12, 2016, 03:36:19 PM
Quote from: Young Blood on October 12, 2016, 03:29:40 PM
wish it didnt have such a lousy motor as far as performance goes but the 305 is pretty fuel efficient for a v8 so i cant complain
Is it a five speed or a auto?

auto

LU5 crossfire motor.
Honestly not terrible. Yeah it only has 160/170 horse, but you've still got 245 ftlbs of torque. You can also gain a little bit of quick, cheap power simply by finding some headers from a 350 tpi car to swap on. It has a cult following and a decent aftermarket too, plenty of forums for troubleshooting and general help.

Low horse high torque V8 motors are pretty fun. They're super reliable, practically bulletproof, and you can have fun without breaking the law too much or putting yourself at risk for much. You can scoot around on backroads real fun like because of all the torque available at low rpm.

I daily a wagon that has more power than your C4 vette, and honestly I'd love to have a car just like my old 78 impala with the anemic boat-anchor-with-a-2bbl 305 back one day... just this time not falling apart faster than I have the time or experience to keep up with.