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the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
Say whatever you want about Verbatim
I already cut Verb's ban down after he asked me to and it expires in a little over a week. He won't be getting an early return.#MakeSep7agonGreatAgain
Quote from: Cheat on January 23, 2017, 09:34:27 PMI already cut Verb's ban down after he asked me to and it expires in a little over a week. He won't be getting an early return.#MakeSep7agonGreatAgainNice avatar. Feels weird not seeing Ruby.
Quote from: Deci on January 23, 2017, 09:53:52 PMQuote from: Cheat on January 23, 2017, 09:34:27 PMI already cut Verb's ban down after he asked me to and it expires in a little over a week. He won't be getting an early return.#MakeSep7agonGreatAgainNice avatar. Feels weird not seeing Ruby.It was someone else's doing.
Quote from: Cheat on January 23, 2017, 10:04:52 PMQuote from: Deci on January 23, 2017, 09:53:52 PMQuote from: Cheat on January 23, 2017, 09:34:27 PMI already cut Verb's ban down after he asked me to and it expires in a little over a week. He won't be getting an early return.#MakeSep7agonGreatAgainNice avatar. Feels weird not seeing Ruby.It was someone else's doing.Oh? Who?
IDK. That thread where you're assigned a new avatar for a month.
Quote from: Deci on January 23, 2017, 10:05:33 PMQuote from: Cheat on January 23, 2017, 10:04:52 PMQuote from: Deci on January 23, 2017, 09:53:52 PMQuote from: Cheat on January 23, 2017, 09:34:27 PMI already cut Verb's ban down after he asked me to and it expires in a little over a week. He won't be getting an early return.#MakeSep7agonGreatAgainNice avatar. Feels weird not seeing Ruby.It was someone else's doing.Oh? Who?IDK. That thread where you're assigned a new avatar for a month.
Nuka's thread? It was only two weeks. Quote from: Cheat on January 23, 2017, 10:06:03 PMIDK. That thread where you're assigned a new avatar for a month.
Quote from: Ian on January 23, 2017, 10:06:55 PMNuka's thread? It was only two weeks. Quote from: Cheat on January 23, 2017, 10:06:03 PMIDK. That thread where you're assigned a new avatar for a month. Oh good; just until this Thursday, then.
Quote from: Sαndtrap on January 23, 2017, 02:50:49 PMQuote from: Dietrich Six on January 23, 2017, 02:41:33 PMQuote from: Sαndtrap on January 23, 2017, 02:37:13 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 01:55:06 PMI don't understand what you guys see in Verbatim. He's just an asshole that pretends to know what he's talking about.You know, I'm sure in a lot of instances when looking at other members talk, if you take an outsider's stance on this, a lot of members might seem like assholes who pretend to know what they're talking about.If you want some other reasons, personally, I don't think we should be so heavy on bans anymore. We're small enough as it is now that the last thing we need is to start the chopping block up and running.And if you want my personal take on it, say whatever you will about either his past or present iterations of personality, at the very least, Verb is somebody you can have a discussion with. He's got his low points. Like I'm sure everybody here has had at one point. But on occassion he's got his upsides too.His discussions are nothing more than trolling and outright refusal to converse in any meaningful context.There are plenty of members here who have left because of him, it's a small community partly because of him.Being a relentlessly negative twat doesn't make for a better forum.This feeds into a point I was gonna make. This whole debacle just raises another point.People taking things too seriously and forgetting the reality of this place. It's a place to talk and it has no physical bearing on you. It has no effect on you whatsoever unless you let it have one or somebody really goes out of their way to do shit like dox you.But some guy writing mean words at you means jack shit. The same as trying so hard at "winning" any internet argument you stumble into.I'll say that Verb is guilty of this. But when you look at it, those people who left didn't leave because of Verb. That's bullshit. He didn't hold a gun at them and say "get out." They chose to leave and Verb fit the bill as some form of validation of their choice to leave. If they left because of Verb then honestly, they were going to leave anyway.When all you simply have to do is not read comments if you don't want to. You don't even have to respond. Hell, when you go through a lengthy thread, you skim sometimes right? That's all you've gotta do if you don't like somebody here. Just don't speak to em or acknowledge them. Exactly like dealing with people you don't particularily enjoy in the real world.I also know that there is a certain limit to where you draw the line on taking something seriously. Doxxing people and getting personal with information and the like crosses a line.But beyond that, people need to grow the fuck up here.You're right in that nothing verb says should have any bearing on anyone's state of mind, I ignore him for the most part and I don't generally draw his ire.The problem with someone as active on this site as verb is that he's literally in every thread, he derails a ton of topics and is not shy about showing his dislike for certain members.He honestly doesn't bother me but to say that people should just ignore him is silly.
Quote from: Dietrich Six on January 23, 2017, 02:41:33 PMQuote from: Sαndtrap on January 23, 2017, 02:37:13 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 01:55:06 PMI don't understand what you guys see in Verbatim. He's just an asshole that pretends to know what he's talking about.You know, I'm sure in a lot of instances when looking at other members talk, if you take an outsider's stance on this, a lot of members might seem like assholes who pretend to know what they're talking about.If you want some other reasons, personally, I don't think we should be so heavy on bans anymore. We're small enough as it is now that the last thing we need is to start the chopping block up and running.And if you want my personal take on it, say whatever you will about either his past or present iterations of personality, at the very least, Verb is somebody you can have a discussion with. He's got his low points. Like I'm sure everybody here has had at one point. But on occassion he's got his upsides too.His discussions are nothing more than trolling and outright refusal to converse in any meaningful context.There are plenty of members here who have left because of him, it's a small community partly because of him.Being a relentlessly negative twat doesn't make for a better forum.This feeds into a point I was gonna make. This whole debacle just raises another point.People taking things too seriously and forgetting the reality of this place. It's a place to talk and it has no physical bearing on you. It has no effect on you whatsoever unless you let it have one or somebody really goes out of their way to do shit like dox you.But some guy writing mean words at you means jack shit. The same as trying so hard at "winning" any internet argument you stumble into.I'll say that Verb is guilty of this. But when you look at it, those people who left didn't leave because of Verb. That's bullshit. He didn't hold a gun at them and say "get out." They chose to leave and Verb fit the bill as some form of validation of their choice to leave. If they left because of Verb then honestly, they were going to leave anyway.When all you simply have to do is not read comments if you don't want to. You don't even have to respond. Hell, when you go through a lengthy thread, you skim sometimes right? That's all you've gotta do if you don't like somebody here. Just don't speak to em or acknowledge them. Exactly like dealing with people you don't particularily enjoy in the real world.I also know that there is a certain limit to where you draw the line on taking something seriously. Doxxing people and getting personal with information and the like crosses a line.But beyond that, people need to grow the fuck up here.
Quote from: Sαndtrap on January 23, 2017, 02:37:13 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 01:55:06 PMI don't understand what you guys see in Verbatim. He's just an asshole that pretends to know what he's talking about.You know, I'm sure in a lot of instances when looking at other members talk, if you take an outsider's stance on this, a lot of members might seem like assholes who pretend to know what they're talking about.If you want some other reasons, personally, I don't think we should be so heavy on bans anymore. We're small enough as it is now that the last thing we need is to start the chopping block up and running.And if you want my personal take on it, say whatever you will about either his past or present iterations of personality, at the very least, Verb is somebody you can have a discussion with. He's got his low points. Like I'm sure everybody here has had at one point. But on occassion he's got his upsides too.His discussions are nothing more than trolling and outright refusal to converse in any meaningful context.There are plenty of members here who have left because of him, it's a small community partly because of him.Being a relentlessly negative twat doesn't make for a better forum.
Quote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 01:55:06 PMI don't understand what you guys see in Verbatim. He's just an asshole that pretends to know what he's talking about.You know, I'm sure in a lot of instances when looking at other members talk, if you take an outsider's stance on this, a lot of members might seem like assholes who pretend to know what they're talking about.If you want some other reasons, personally, I don't think we should be so heavy on bans anymore. We're small enough as it is now that the last thing we need is to start the chopping block up and running.And if you want my personal take on it, say whatever you will about either his past or present iterations of personality, at the very least, Verb is somebody you can have a discussion with. He's got his low points. Like I'm sure everybody here has had at one point. But on occassion he's got his upsides too.
I don't understand what you guys see in Verbatim. He's just an asshole that pretends to know what he's talking about.
Quote from: Dietrich Six on January 23, 2017, 03:20:43 PMQuote from: Sαndtrap on January 23, 2017, 02:50:49 PMQuote from: Dietrich Six on January 23, 2017, 02:41:33 PMQuote from: Sαndtrap on January 23, 2017, 02:37:13 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 01:55:06 PMI don't understand what you guys see in Verbatim. He's just an asshole that pretends to know what he's talking about.You know, I'm sure in a lot of instances when looking at other members talk, if you take an outsider's stance on this, a lot of members might seem like assholes who pretend to know what they're talking about.If you want some other reasons, personally, I don't think we should be so heavy on bans anymore. We're small enough as it is now that the last thing we need is to start the chopping block up and running.And if you want my personal take on it, say whatever you will about either his past or present iterations of personality, at the very least, Verb is somebody you can have a discussion with. He's got his low points. Like I'm sure everybody here has had at one point. But on occassion he's got his upsides too.His discussions are nothing more than trolling and outright refusal to converse in any meaningful context.There are plenty of members here who have left because of him, it's a small community partly because of him.Being a relentlessly negative twat doesn't make for a better forum.This feeds into a point I was gonna make. This whole debacle just raises another point.People taking things too seriously and forgetting the reality of this place. It's a place to talk and it has no physical bearing on you. It has no effect on you whatsoever unless you let it have one or somebody really goes out of their way to do shit like dox you.But some guy writing mean words at you means jack shit. The same as trying so hard at "winning" any internet argument you stumble into.I'll say that Verb is guilty of this. But when you look at it, those people who left didn't leave because of Verb. That's bullshit. He didn't hold a gun at them and say "get out." They chose to leave and Verb fit the bill as some form of validation of their choice to leave. If they left because of Verb then honestly, they were going to leave anyway.When all you simply have to do is not read comments if you don't want to. You don't even have to respond. Hell, when you go through a lengthy thread, you skim sometimes right? That's all you've gotta do if you don't like somebody here. Just don't speak to em or acknowledge them. Exactly like dealing with people you don't particularily enjoy in the real world.I also know that there is a certain limit to where you draw the line on taking something seriously. Doxxing people and getting personal with information and the like crosses a line.But beyond that, people need to grow the fuck up here.You're right in that nothing verb says should have any bearing on anyone's state of mind, I ignore him for the most part and I don't generally draw his ire.The problem with someone as active on this site as verb is that he's literally in every thread, he derails a ton of topics and is not shy about showing his dislike for certain members.He honestly doesn't bother me but to say that people should just ignore him is silly.I know there's the news from Cheat but I want a solid answer on this one.You pay no mind against Verb for the most part. So if that's working out for you, why exactly does other people who don't enjoy his presence ignoring him count as silly?So what if Verb doesn't like people and he's vocal about it? Said people have just as much right to voice their opinion to him and it's pretty obvious that they do.Lastly, if you're getting that offended, upset, or unnerved that somebody doesn't like you on an internet forum, then I'm sorry to say, you're gonna have a really shit time out in the real world when you meet somebody who doesn't like you. Way worse than anybody you'll likely ever meet on the internet.
That azendac guy was calling me a nigger and goatfucker literally every time he replied to me in Serious. Why wasn't he banned? He got like a one day ban from the Serious board. Really makes you think
Just because you can choose to ignore someone doesn't mean it doesn't affect you. Verb's brand of negativity makes it hard to have discussions about a lot of topics.
Quote from: Sαndtrap on January 23, 2017, 11:06:56 PMQuote from: Dietrich Six on January 23, 2017, 03:20:43 PMQuote from: Sαndtrap on January 23, 2017, 02:50:49 PMQuote from: Dietrich Six on January 23, 2017, 02:41:33 PMQuote from: Sαndtrap on January 23, 2017, 02:37:13 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 01:55:06 PMI don't understand what you guys see in Verbatim. He's just an asshole that pretends to know what he's talking about.You know, I'm sure in a lot of instances when looking at other members talk, if you take an outsider's stance on this, a lot of members might seem like assholes who pretend to know what they're talking about.If you want some other reasons, personally, I don't think we should be so heavy on bans anymore. We're small enough as it is now that the last thing we need is to start the chopping block up and running.And if you want my personal take on it, say whatever you will about either his past or present iterations of personality, at the very least, Verb is somebody you can have a discussion with. He's got his low points. Like I'm sure everybody here has had at one point. But on occassion he's got his upsides too.His discussions are nothing more than trolling and outright refusal to converse in any meaningful context.There are plenty of members here who have left because of him, it's a small community partly because of him.Being a relentlessly negative twat doesn't make for a better forum.This feeds into a point I was gonna make. This whole debacle just raises another point.People taking things too seriously and forgetting the reality of this place. It's a place to talk and it has no physical bearing on you. It has no effect on you whatsoever unless you let it have one or somebody really goes out of their way to do shit like dox you.But some guy writing mean words at you means jack shit. The same as trying so hard at "winning" any internet argument you stumble into.I'll say that Verb is guilty of this. But when you look at it, those people who left didn't leave because of Verb. That's bullshit. He didn't hold a gun at them and say "get out." They chose to leave and Verb fit the bill as some form of validation of their choice to leave. If they left because of Verb then honestly, they were going to leave anyway.When all you simply have to do is not read comments if you don't want to. You don't even have to respond. Hell, when you go through a lengthy thread, you skim sometimes right? That's all you've gotta do if you don't like somebody here. Just don't speak to em or acknowledge them. Exactly like dealing with people you don't particularily enjoy in the real world.I also know that there is a certain limit to where you draw the line on taking something seriously. Doxxing people and getting personal with information and the like crosses a line.But beyond that, people need to grow the fuck up here.You're right in that nothing verb says should have any bearing on anyone's state of mind, I ignore him for the most part and I don't generally draw his ire.The problem with someone as active on this site as verb is that he's literally in every thread, he derails a ton of topics and is not shy about showing his dislike for certain members.He honestly doesn't bother me but to say that people should just ignore him is silly.I know there's the news from Cheat but I want a solid answer on this one.You pay no mind against Verb for the most part. So if that's working out for you, why exactly does other people who don't enjoy his presence ignoring him count as silly?So what if Verb doesn't like people and he's vocal about it? Said people have just as much right to voice their opinion to him and it's pretty obvious that they do.Lastly, if you're getting that offended, upset, or unnerved that somebody doesn't like you on an internet forum, then I'm sorry to say, you're gonna have a really shit time out in the real world when you meet somebody who doesn't like you. Way worse than anybody you'll likely ever meet on the internet.You're missing the point. Verb being banned hasn't brought back the people who left, we haven't seen a huge increase in activity, no new members aside from the alts floating around.Just because you can choose to ignore someone doesn't mean it doesn't affect you. Verb's brand of negativity makes it hard to have discussions about a lot of topics.Queue the star wars threads, and verb trying desperately to derail them and shit on other people's opinions.This isn't about having a thick skin or ignoring random people in the internet, it's about discussion on an internet forum.It's about the one purpose of this whole website.Sure, reading verb's shit opinions scattered throughout can be fun but there's a lot of discussion left on the table when he inevitably derails the topic.
Quote from: Dietrich Six on January 23, 2017, 11:25:53 PMQuote from: Sαndtrap on January 23, 2017, 11:06:56 PMQuote from: Dietrich Six on January 23, 2017, 03:20:43 PMQuote from: Sαndtrap on January 23, 2017, 02:50:49 PMQuote from: Dietrich Six on January 23, 2017, 02:41:33 PMQuote from: Sαndtrap on January 23, 2017, 02:37:13 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 01:55:06 PMI don't understand what you guys see in Verbatim. He's just an asshole that pretends to know what he's talking about.You know, I'm sure in a lot of instances when looking at other members talk, if you take an outsider's stance on this, a lot of members might seem like assholes who pretend to know what they're talking about.If you want some other reasons, personally, I don't think we should be so heavy on bans anymore. We're small enough as it is now that the last thing we need is to start the chopping block up and running.And if you want my personal take on it, say whatever you will about either his past or present iterations of personality, at the very least, Verb is somebody you can have a discussion with. He's got his low points. Like I'm sure everybody here has had at one point. But on occassion he's got his upsides too.His discussions are nothing more than trolling and outright refusal to converse in any meaningful context.There are plenty of members here who have left because of him, it's a small community partly because of him.Being a relentlessly negative twat doesn't make for a better forum.This feeds into a point I was gonna make. This whole debacle just raises another point.People taking things too seriously and forgetting the reality of this place. It's a place to talk and it has no physical bearing on you. It has no effect on you whatsoever unless you let it have one or somebody really goes out of their way to do shit like dox you.But some guy writing mean words at you means jack shit. The same as trying so hard at "winning" any internet argument you stumble into.I'll say that Verb is guilty of this. But when you look at it, those people who left didn't leave because of Verb. That's bullshit. He didn't hold a gun at them and say "get out." They chose to leave and Verb fit the bill as some form of validation of their choice to leave. If they left because of Verb then honestly, they were going to leave anyway.When all you simply have to do is not read comments if you don't want to. You don't even have to respond. Hell, when you go through a lengthy thread, you skim sometimes right? That's all you've gotta do if you don't like somebody here. Just don't speak to em or acknowledge them. Exactly like dealing with people you don't particularily enjoy in the real world.I also know that there is a certain limit to where you draw the line on taking something seriously. Doxxing people and getting personal with information and the like crosses a line.But beyond that, people need to grow the fuck up here.You're right in that nothing verb says should have any bearing on anyone's state of mind, I ignore him for the most part and I don't generally draw his ire.The problem with someone as active on this site as verb is that he's literally in every thread, he derails a ton of topics and is not shy about showing his dislike for certain members.He honestly doesn't bother me but to say that people should just ignore him is silly.I know there's the news from Cheat but I want a solid answer on this one.You pay no mind against Verb for the most part. So if that's working out for you, why exactly does other people who don't enjoy his presence ignoring him count as silly?So what if Verb doesn't like people and he's vocal about it? Said people have just as much right to voice their opinion to him and it's pretty obvious that they do.Lastly, if you're getting that offended, upset, or unnerved that somebody doesn't like you on an internet forum, then I'm sorry to say, you're gonna have a really shit time out in the real world when you meet somebody who doesn't like you. Way worse than anybody you'll likely ever meet on the internet.You're missing the point. Verb being banned hasn't brought back the people who left, we haven't seen a huge increase in activity, no new members aside from the alts floating around.Just because you can choose to ignore someone doesn't mean it doesn't affect you. Verb's brand of negativity makes it hard to have discussions about a lot of topics.Queue the star wars threads, and verb trying desperately to derail them and shit on other people's opinions.This isn't about having a thick skin or ignoring random people in the internet, it's about discussion on an internet forum.It's about the one purpose of this whole website.Sure, reading verb's shit opinions scattered throughout can be fun but there's a lot of discussion left on the table when he inevitably derails the topic.Like I said. If those people left because Verb, they were going to leave anyway. I don't see how Verb doing his thang has so much power over derailing a thread by itself. You can't derail a thread by yourself. Derailing a thread needs participation from two respective parties at a minimum.The only reason a thread gets derailed is due to one very specific thing. Ego. Verb doesn't want to back down. And the person talking to him doesn't either. They want validation so they continue to talk back and forth and before you know it you've got a lot of pages. You know what the simple magic trick is to stop that? People need to get out of their own fucking way and get their heads out of their asses.If you don't reply to a post, it loses all power. What's the agressor going to do? Spam talk to themselves? OH YOU BETTER BERIEVE THAT'S A BANNU.Point being, it's entirely and easily possible to continue the original discussion between the parties that want to. I'm not saying everybody needs to just not talk to Verb, after all, he's part of the discussion. But if the discussion is going off the rails?It's not just one person's fault. It's the agressor who started it, and the person who continues to fan flames. They're just as responsible. We already know that Verb's not going to step over his own ego anytime soon. That's his call. But it's also the person replying back who also has their own choice as to whether or not to step over their own ego.I'll prove it to you right now. Let's me and you demonstrate an experiment in action.
Quote from: Sαndtrap on January 23, 2017, 11:47:45 PMQuote from: Dietrich Six on January 23, 2017, 11:25:53 PMQuote from: Sαndtrap on January 23, 2017, 11:06:56 PMQuote from: Dietrich Six on January 23, 2017, 03:20:43 PMQuote from: Sαndtrap on January 23, 2017, 02:50:49 PMQuote from: Dietrich Six on January 23, 2017, 02:41:33 PMQuote from: Sαndtrap on January 23, 2017, 02:37:13 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 01:55:06 PMI don't understand what you guys see in Verbatim. He's just an asshole that pretends to know what he's talking about.You know, I'm sure in a lot of instances when looking at other members talk, if you take an outsider's stance on this, a lot of members might seem like assholes who pretend to know what they're talking about.If you want some other reasons, personally, I don't think we should be so heavy on bans anymore. We're small enough as it is now that the last thing we need is to start the chopping block up and running.And if you want my personal take on it, say whatever you will about either his past or present iterations of personality, at the very least, Verb is somebody you can have a discussion with. He's got his low points. Like I'm sure everybody here has had at one point. But on occassion he's got his upsides too.His discussions are nothing more than trolling and outright refusal to converse in any meaningful context.There are plenty of members here who have left because of him, it's a small community partly because of him.Being a relentlessly negative twat doesn't make for a better forum.This feeds into a point I was gonna make. This whole debacle just raises another point.People taking things too seriously and forgetting the reality of this place. It's a place to talk and it has no physical bearing on you. It has no effect on you whatsoever unless you let it have one or somebody really goes out of their way to do shit like dox you.But some guy writing mean words at you means jack shit. The same as trying so hard at "winning" any internet argument you stumble into.I'll say that Verb is guilty of this. But when you look at it, those people who left didn't leave because of Verb. That's bullshit. He didn't hold a gun at them and say "get out." They chose to leave and Verb fit the bill as some form of validation of their choice to leave. If they left because of Verb then honestly, they were going to leave anyway.When all you simply have to do is not read comments if you don't want to. You don't even have to respond. Hell, when you go through a lengthy thread, you skim sometimes right? That's all you've gotta do if you don't like somebody here. Just don't speak to em or acknowledge them. Exactly like dealing with people you don't particularily enjoy in the real world.I also know that there is a certain limit to where you draw the line on taking something seriously. Doxxing people and getting personal with information and the like crosses a line.But beyond that, people need to grow the fuck up here.You're right in that nothing verb says should have any bearing on anyone's state of mind, I ignore him for the most part and I don't generally draw his ire.The problem with someone as active on this site as verb is that he's literally in every thread, he derails a ton of topics and is not shy about showing his dislike for certain members.He honestly doesn't bother me but to say that people should just ignore him is silly.I know there's the news from Cheat but I want a solid answer on this one.You pay no mind against Verb for the most part. So if that's working out for you, why exactly does other people who don't enjoy his presence ignoring him count as silly?So what if Verb doesn't like people and he's vocal about it? Said people have just as much right to voice their opinion to him and it's pretty obvious that they do.Lastly, if you're getting that offended, upset, or unnerved that somebody doesn't like you on an internet forum, then I'm sorry to say, you're gonna have a really shit time out in the real world when you meet somebody who doesn't like you. Way worse than anybody you'll likely ever meet on the internet.You're missing the point. Verb being banned hasn't brought back the people who left, we haven't seen a huge increase in activity, no new members aside from the alts floating around.Just because you can choose to ignore someone doesn't mean it doesn't affect you. Verb's brand of negativity makes it hard to have discussions about a lot of topics.Queue the star wars threads, and verb trying desperately to derail them and shit on other people's opinions.This isn't about having a thick skin or ignoring random people in the internet, it's about discussion on an internet forum.It's about the one purpose of this whole website.Sure, reading verb's shit opinions scattered throughout can be fun but there's a lot of discussion left on the table when he inevitably derails the topic.Like I said. If those people left because Verb, they were going to leave anyway. I don't see how Verb doing his thang has so much power over derailing a thread by itself. You can't derail a thread by yourself. Derailing a thread needs participation from two respective parties at a minimum.The only reason a thread gets derailed is due to one very specific thing. Ego. Verb doesn't want to back down. And the person talking to him doesn't either. They want validation so they continue to talk back and forth and before you know it you've got a lot of pages. You know what the simple magic trick is to stop that? People need to get out of their own fucking way and get their heads out of their asses.If you don't reply to a post, it loses all power. What's the agressor going to do? Spam talk to themselves? OH YOU BETTER BERIEVE THAT'S A BANNU.Point being, it's entirely and easily possible to continue the original discussion between the parties that want to. I'm not saying everybody needs to just not talk to Verb, after all, he's part of the discussion. But if the discussion is going off the rails?It's not just one person's fault. It's the agressor who started it, and the person who continues to fan flames. They're just as responsible. We already know that Verb's not going to step over his own ego anytime soon. That's his call. But it's also the person replying back who also has their own choice as to whether or not to step over their own ego.I'll prove it to you right now. Let's me and you demonstrate an experiment in action.That makes no fucking sense. Let's say a guy walks into a bank with a gun and demands money or else he will start shooting the place up, then according to you, everyone should just ignore him? And after he shoots someone it's partially the people's fault for ignoring him? No, i don't think so.
Quote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 06:31:30 PMQuote from: Aria on January 23, 2017, 06:29:09 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 06:26:48 PMQuote from: Aria on January 23, 2017, 06:23:12 PMQuote from: Kitsahri on January 23, 2017, 05:30:34 PMQuote from: Iontach Gaeilge on January 23, 2017, 04:21:59 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 01:55:06 PMI don't understand what you guys see in Verbatim. He's just an asshole that pretends to know what he's talking about.I don't see anything in him.I just see a flaw in how moderation was practiced and he shouldn't be banned for it. Doesn't matter who it was, the ban was bullshit and I don't want others that I actually enjoy their presence to be banned under similar circumstances.3 months for that is excessive. I mean I understand he has been a fire demon recently, but he really hates Trump, and now he is his president regardless of his awesome avatar and "not my president" custom title. I appreciate the memes man.It's not just Trump, although that is a big part. Sometime's people have irl issues that translate into their attitudes. Everybody comes down on hard times, but that doesn't excuse anything. Verb did need to have a cooldown period, but two months (reduced to 1) is still too long without a sufficient ban/warn history to support it.What? The guy was perma'd a while back. How's that for a sufficient ban history?Bans are typically handled with increasing lengths with continued rule breaking. First warnings, then a lite ban, then a day or three, then a week, etc. Accord to Psy, this past year he had one ban and a couple of warnings that would have added up to two days. Even taking the specific instance that resulted in the ban, anything more than two weeks is excessive.Two weeks isn't enough if you're being that much of a prick, sorry.People shouldn't be banned on the basis of being mean. I'm sorry, but if the moderation of the case was handled consistently with literally every other case then there wouldn't be a problem; but taking a bunch of little snarks that aren't worth even half of a warning alone and trying to justify a 1-2 month ban for it is ridiculous.
Quote from: Aria on January 23, 2017, 06:29:09 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 06:26:48 PMQuote from: Aria on January 23, 2017, 06:23:12 PMQuote from: Kitsahri on January 23, 2017, 05:30:34 PMQuote from: Iontach Gaeilge on January 23, 2017, 04:21:59 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 01:55:06 PMI don't understand what you guys see in Verbatim. He's just an asshole that pretends to know what he's talking about.I don't see anything in him.I just see a flaw in how moderation was practiced and he shouldn't be banned for it. Doesn't matter who it was, the ban was bullshit and I don't want others that I actually enjoy their presence to be banned under similar circumstances.3 months for that is excessive. I mean I understand he has been a fire demon recently, but he really hates Trump, and now he is his president regardless of his awesome avatar and "not my president" custom title. I appreciate the memes man.It's not just Trump, although that is a big part. Sometime's people have irl issues that translate into their attitudes. Everybody comes down on hard times, but that doesn't excuse anything. Verb did need to have a cooldown period, but two months (reduced to 1) is still too long without a sufficient ban/warn history to support it.What? The guy was perma'd a while back. How's that for a sufficient ban history?Bans are typically handled with increasing lengths with continued rule breaking. First warnings, then a lite ban, then a day or three, then a week, etc. Accord to Psy, this past year he had one ban and a couple of warnings that would have added up to two days. Even taking the specific instance that resulted in the ban, anything more than two weeks is excessive.Two weeks isn't enough if you're being that much of a prick, sorry.
Quote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 06:26:48 PMQuote from: Aria on January 23, 2017, 06:23:12 PMQuote from: Kitsahri on January 23, 2017, 05:30:34 PMQuote from: Iontach Gaeilge on January 23, 2017, 04:21:59 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 01:55:06 PMI don't understand what you guys see in Verbatim. He's just an asshole that pretends to know what he's talking about.I don't see anything in him.I just see a flaw in how moderation was practiced and he shouldn't be banned for it. Doesn't matter who it was, the ban was bullshit and I don't want others that I actually enjoy their presence to be banned under similar circumstances.3 months for that is excessive. I mean I understand he has been a fire demon recently, but he really hates Trump, and now he is his president regardless of his awesome avatar and "not my president" custom title. I appreciate the memes man.It's not just Trump, although that is a big part. Sometime's people have irl issues that translate into their attitudes. Everybody comes down on hard times, but that doesn't excuse anything. Verb did need to have a cooldown period, but two months (reduced to 1) is still too long without a sufficient ban/warn history to support it.What? The guy was perma'd a while back. How's that for a sufficient ban history?Bans are typically handled with increasing lengths with continued rule breaking. First warnings, then a lite ban, then a day or three, then a week, etc. Accord to Psy, this past year he had one ban and a couple of warnings that would have added up to two days. Even taking the specific instance that resulted in the ban, anything more than two weeks is excessive.
Quote from: Aria on January 23, 2017, 06:23:12 PMQuote from: Kitsahri on January 23, 2017, 05:30:34 PMQuote from: Iontach Gaeilge on January 23, 2017, 04:21:59 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 01:55:06 PMI don't understand what you guys see in Verbatim. He's just an asshole that pretends to know what he's talking about.I don't see anything in him.I just see a flaw in how moderation was practiced and he shouldn't be banned for it. Doesn't matter who it was, the ban was bullshit and I don't want others that I actually enjoy their presence to be banned under similar circumstances.3 months for that is excessive. I mean I understand he has been a fire demon recently, but he really hates Trump, and now he is his president regardless of his awesome avatar and "not my president" custom title. I appreciate the memes man.It's not just Trump, although that is a big part. Sometime's people have irl issues that translate into their attitudes. Everybody comes down on hard times, but that doesn't excuse anything. Verb did need to have a cooldown period, but two months (reduced to 1) is still too long without a sufficient ban/warn history to support it.What? The guy was perma'd a while back. How's that for a sufficient ban history?
Quote from: Kitsahri on January 23, 2017, 05:30:34 PMQuote from: Iontach Gaeilge on January 23, 2017, 04:21:59 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 01:55:06 PMI don't understand what you guys see in Verbatim. He's just an asshole that pretends to know what he's talking about.I don't see anything in him.I just see a flaw in how moderation was practiced and he shouldn't be banned for it. Doesn't matter who it was, the ban was bullshit and I don't want others that I actually enjoy their presence to be banned under similar circumstances.3 months for that is excessive. I mean I understand he has been a fire demon recently, but he really hates Trump, and now he is his president regardless of his awesome avatar and "not my president" custom title. I appreciate the memes man.It's not just Trump, although that is a big part. Sometime's people have irl issues that translate into their attitudes. Everybody comes down on hard times, but that doesn't excuse anything. Verb did need to have a cooldown period, but two months (reduced to 1) is still too long without a sufficient ban/warn history to support it.
Quote from: Iontach Gaeilge on January 23, 2017, 04:21:59 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 01:55:06 PMI don't understand what you guys see in Verbatim. He's just an asshole that pretends to know what he's talking about.I don't see anything in him.I just see a flaw in how moderation was practiced and he shouldn't be banned for it. Doesn't matter who it was, the ban was bullshit and I don't want others that I actually enjoy their presence to be banned under similar circumstances.3 months for that is excessive. I mean I understand he has been a fire demon recently, but he really hates Trump, and now he is his president regardless of his awesome avatar and "not my president" custom title. I appreciate the memes man.
Quote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 01:55:06 PMI don't understand what you guys see in Verbatim. He's just an asshole that pretends to know what he's talking about.I don't see anything in him.I just see a flaw in how moderation was practiced and he shouldn't be banned for it. Doesn't matter who it was, the ban was bullshit and I don't want others that I actually enjoy their presence to be banned under similar circumstances.
Quote from: Aria on January 23, 2017, 06:33:28 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 06:31:30 PMQuote from: Aria on January 23, 2017, 06:29:09 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 06:26:48 PMQuote from: Aria on January 23, 2017, 06:23:12 PMQuote from: Kitsahri on January 23, 2017, 05:30:34 PMQuote from: Iontach Gaeilge on January 23, 2017, 04:21:59 PMQuote from: Blazed Iron on January 23, 2017, 01:55:06 PMI don't understand what you guys see in Verbatim. He's just an asshole that pretends to know what he's talking about.I don't see anything in him.I just see a flaw in how moderation was practiced and he shouldn't be banned for it. Doesn't matter who it was, the ban was bullshit and I don't want others that I actually enjoy their presence to be banned under similar circumstances.3 months for that is excessive. I mean I understand he has been a fire demon recently, but he really hates Trump, and now he is his president regardless of his awesome avatar and "not my president" custom title. I appreciate the memes man.It's not just Trump, although that is a big part. Sometime's people have irl issues that translate into their attitudes. Everybody comes down on hard times, but that doesn't excuse anything. Verb did need to have a cooldown period, but two months (reduced to 1) is still too long without a sufficient ban/warn history to support it.What? The guy was perma'd a while back. How's that for a sufficient ban history?Bans are typically handled with increasing lengths with continued rule breaking. First warnings, then a lite ban, then a day or three, then a week, etc. Accord to Psy, this past year he had one ban and a couple of warnings that would have added up to two days. Even taking the specific instance that resulted in the ban, anything more than two weeks is excessive.Two weeks isn't enough if you're being that much of a prick, sorry.People shouldn't be banned on the basis of being mean. I'm sorry, but if the moderation of the case was handled consistently with literally every other case then there wouldn't be a problem; but taking a bunch of little snarks that aren't worth even half of a warning alone and trying to justify a 1-2 month ban for it is ridiculous.Psy only took into account the past year. That's a mistake if you ask me. Verb has a reputation of being quite unsettling, and apparently nothing changed.
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