Panty and Stocking — AKA, why Japan is the worst nation ever

 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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The show revolves around the exploits of the Anarchy sisters, Panty and Stocking, angels who were kicked out of Heaven due to their bad behavior. They are sent to Daten City—a pun on the Japanese word datenshi (堕天使?, lit. "fallen angel")—a place on the border between Heaven and Hell, which is besieged by evil spirits referred to as "Ghosts". The sisters take refuge under the care of the reverend Garterbelt; under his watchful eyes, the sisters are tasked with using their ability to transform their lingerie into weapons, and using them to destroy malicious Ghosts. By doing so, the sisters earn "Heaven Coins" with which they intend to one day use to buy their way back into Heaven. However, Panty and Stocking are constantly sidetracked by their respective interests in men and sugary sweets.
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Panty (パンティ)
Voiced by: Arisa Ogasawara (Japanese); Jamie Marchi[4] (English)

Panty is a blonde-haired pale-skinned angel whose only interests are looking for men to sleep with and basking in the popularity of being an Anarchy sister. She does not take her Ghost-hunting duties as seriously as her sister Stocking, instead preferring to fulfill her personal goal of having sex with 1,000 men on Earth before returning to Heaven. She is generally rude and aggressive to the people around her (including Garterbelt, Brief, Stocking, the men she sleeps with, and most prominently Chuck), and is fond of living the celebrity lifestyle of being an Anarchy sister because it brings her closer to the men and fame she craves. However, she does occasionally exhibit affection toward Stocking and a deep desire for what she believes is best for her, despite their frequent arguing. Although she frequently insults Brief, she sometimes shows a less shallow side to her personality with others. She has the ability to transform her panties into a pistol called Backlace (バックレース Bakkurēsu?). She occasionally wields a second Backlace using Stocking's panties, doubling her firepower and allowing her to combine them into more advanced firearms such as a submachine gun or sniper rifle. She can weaponize male underwear, though the weapon's size and usefulness depends on the size of the original wearer's penis.

Daily reminder that this^ is considered an appropriate depiction of women in Japan. That lust you feel towards high school girls is 100% okay, fellow otaku! Women are just sex objects who LOVE fucking all the men they can find!
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I mean, I'm pretty sure it's satirical, but it's still abhorrent dogshit. It seems the only way Japan knows how to deconstruct their portrayals of women is to turn it up to 11, which is extremely tired, cliched, and anyone who likes it is dumb.

Same goes for Kill La Kill, same goes for Me! Me! Me! and all the rest. Fuck Japan, fuck anime, fuck weeaboos.
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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I mean, I'm pretty sure it's satirical
didn't even think of that possibility, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is 100% legit

but yeah like you said, even as satire this existing is so cringy and stupid


 
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Also, you just sounded the Cindy alarm.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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does she watch this or something

isnt she like a staunch feminist


 
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does she watch this or something

isnt she like a staunch feminist
it's one of her favorites if i recall correctly

she is a """""sex-positive""""" feminist, which is just another way of saying closet misogynist really


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No arguements, generally curious; what would you do instead to deconstruct tropes on female portrayals? It's going to be hard to do because you need to make sure the trope is obvious first.

I mean, I'm pretty sure it's satirical, but it's still abhorrent dogshit. It seems the only way Japan knows how to deconstruct their portrayals of women is to turn it up to 11, which is extremely tired, cliched, and anyone who likes it is dumb.


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stocking best waifu

panties is unpure garbage


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This is one of those things I hear about all the time but try to ignore.

I think this is the first time I've even seen pictures of the characters.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
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does she watch this or something

isnt she like a staunch feminist
it's one of her favorites if i recall correctly

she is a """""sex-positive""""" feminist, which is just another way of saying closet misogynist really
I wouldn't go that far

You can be "against" sex in general, for men and women - that's fine. But you're a small drop of water in a sea of people who think it's fine for men to have as much sex as they want, but that women should be chaste. While "no sex for anyone" is an ideal I could subscribe to, it will never happen. So by saying "men and women should be chaste", really all you're doing is helping the people who think women should be chaste.

That's why I think promiscuous, sex-desiring women shouldn't be looked upon even if you're against sex in general.

However, a work like this has nothing to do with the individual choice for women to have lots of sex, none, or something between. It's a work made by a man who sexualizes his female characters to the point beyond recognition as humans. You can have a character like Jane from Breaking Bad, who likes sex, but whose entire character isn't defined by her sex appeal like Panty's is.
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stocking best waifu

panties is unpure garbage
Why am I surprised.


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Unless the show is set in a kitchen, that is an unrealistic depiction of the inferior gender (aka women).


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
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Unless the show is set in a kitchen, that is an unrealistic depiction of the inferior gender (aka women).
lmao so true xDDD

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No arguements, generally curious; what would you do instead to deconstruct tropes on female portrayals? It's going to be hard to do because you need to make sure the trope is obvious first.
see, me! me! me! almost did it right, by portraying the main dude as just this lonely pathetic loser, neglecting his loved ones in the real world in favor of this ridiculous dancing sexual caricature on his television or computer screen

but it fucked up its message by focusing in so much on the sexual aspect, to where most people who see that music video don't even understand the message it's trying to send--they just think it's some weird softcore hentai with some groovy music, which only worsens the very issue the video was trying to comment on

so yeah, i'd probably do something like that, but better: actually show the effects that sexual obsession can have on the psyche, rather than play directly into it

the problem is, nobody really likes to be beaten over the head with anti-sex messages, so it would be difficult to make it digestible


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The angel agreed to trade a set of white wings for the head of another demon. Overjoyed, the demon killed one of his own and plucked the head right off its still-warm body.

The angel then led the demon to heaven, where he underwent centuries of the cruelest tortures imaginable. Finally, the pain was so great that he lost consciousness - at which point his dark wings turned the promised shade of white.
Striped stockings best


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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She is generally rude and aggressive to the people around her (including Garterbelt, Brief, Stocking, the men she sleeps with, and most prominently Chuck), and is fond of living the celebrity lifestyle of being an Anarchy sister because it brings her closer to the fame she craves.
The sad thing is they were so close to creating a cool character


 
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I wouldn't go that far

You can be "against" sex in general, for men and women - that's fine. But you're a small drop of water in a sea of people who think it's fine for men to have as much sex as they want, but that women should be chaste. While "no sex for anyone" is an ideal I could subscribe to, it will never happen. So by saying "men and women should be chaste", really all you're doing is helping the people who think women should be chaste.

That's why I think promiscuous, sex-desiring women shouldn't be looked upon even if you're against sex in general.

However, a work like this has nothing to do with the individual choice for women to have lots of sex, none, or something between. It's a work made by a man who sexualizes his female characters to the point beyond recognition as humans. You can have a character like Jane from Breaking Bad, who likes sex, but whose entire character isn't defined by her sex appeal like Panty's is.
well, what i meant was that cindy is the kind of feminist who watches shows like this and says "yeah, this is empowering"

it's okay to exploit the female form in the media, and it's fine, because we should all be proud of our sexuality--it's not objectification, because sex is nothing to be ashamed of, sex is wonderful, etc. etc. etc.

she would probably argue that your perspective is hypocritical, because if you're okay with some sexual expression, then there's no logical reason (to her) why you wouldn't be okay with all of it
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Women are just sex objects who LOVE fucking all the men they can find!
Lol but this is true?


 
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she would also try to argue, of course, that the characters do have viable character traits beyond their sexuality

i would say they don't, having seen the show


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The angel agreed to trade a set of white wings for the head of another demon. Overjoyed, the demon killed one of his own and plucked the head right off its still-warm body.

The angel then led the demon to heaven, where he underwent centuries of the cruelest tortures imaginable. Finally, the pain was so great that he lost consciousness - at which point his dark wings turned the promised shade of white.
see, me! me! me! almost did it right, by portraying the main dude as just this lonely pathetic loser, neglecting his loved ones in the real world in favor of this ridiculous dancing sexual caricature on his television or computer screen

but it fucked up its message by focusing in so much on the sexual aspect, to where most people who see that music video don't even understand the message it's trying to send--they just think it's some weird softcore hentai with some groovy music, which only worsens the very issue the video was trying to comment on

I found the overdone sexual aspect grotesque and more effective. But you do have a point in some people then missing the point.


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Ember used to be cool and funny

Now he's just gay
it's got a good art style


 
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it's got a good art style
i wouldn't say it's great, but it's certainly different from the cookie-cutter "let's all just recycle the same exact shitty fucking art style forever" mentality that has plagued the anime industry for decades
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Ember used to be cool and funny

Now he's just gay
it's got a good art style
i wouldn't say it's great, but it's certainly different from the cookie-cutter "let's all just recycle the same exact shitty fucking art style forever" mentality that has plagued the anime industry for decades
lmao did you edit in "shitty fucking"


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it's got a good art style
i wouldn't say it's great, but it's certainly different from the cookie-cutter "let's all just recycle the same exact shitty fucking art style forever" mentality that has plagued the anime industry for decades
lmao did you edit in "shitty fucking"
you bet your ass


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
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I wouldn't go that far

You can be "against" sex in general, for men and women - that's fine. But you're a small drop of water in a sea of people who think it's fine for men to have as much sex as they want, but that women should be chaste. While "no sex for anyone" is an ideal I could subscribe to, it will never happen. So by saying "men and women should be chaste", really all you're doing is helping the people who think women should be chaste.

That's why I think promiscuous, sex-desiring women shouldn't be looked upon even if you're against sex in general.

However, a work like this has nothing to do with the individual choice for women to have lots of sex, none, or something between. It's a work made by a man who sexualizes his female characters to the point beyond recognition as humans. You can have a character like Jane from Breaking Bad, who likes sex, but whose entire character isn't defined by her sex appeal like Panty's is.
well, what i meant was that cindy is the kind of feminist who watches shows like this and says "yeah, this is empowering"

it's okay to exploit the female form in the media, and it's fine, because we should all be proud of our sexuality--it's not objectification, because sex is nothing to be ashamed of, sex is wonderful, etc. etc. etc.

she would probably argue that your perspective is hypocritical, because if you're okay with some sexual expression, then there's no logical reason (to her) why you wouldn't be okay with all of it
oh I gotcha

I misinterpreted what you meant by sex positive feminist

cindy has always been super annoying to me, politics aside


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Panty and Stocking is fuckin' awesome and if you disagree then I'll literally fuck your face off


 
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fuck you
Fuck cindy


 
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fuck you
I was too late

Fuck shit cunt


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haha dumb idiot