Both have our future stolen. One we stole it from ourselves and the other it is stolen from us. Both are dark.

But which is darker?

Before you bring up roasted babies, remember that dying with dignity and dying of murder, you still die. In Children of Men, society knew it was dying. Who knows? The Road could be in the same universe, just on the other dide of the globe. 

Anyhoo. Darker depiction of Man meeting the end. Choose.

CoM's journey was based on possibly saving mankind. The Road's was about finding somewhere warmer to live in the apocalypse.

The Road never pretends to hope for more than hunger, violence, and disease. With one major exception, it's constantly depressing, and the one time it wasn't served to drive home the hopelessness of the book's reality.

Children of Men was about saving a broken world
The Road was about just trying to survive in it

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on December 29, 2016, 12:55:09 AM

I'm gonna disagree. After the man died, a family took the boy in. Giving hope that eventually we could overcome our selfishness. Both give hope in a statistical sample set of one.

Now that I think about it. They're the same story.

The strangers at the end of The Road could be anybody. Their intent and motive is completely unknown and for all we know the kid could've just ended up with a bunch more cannibals or worse.

And the Human Project could have been yet another government ruse. Remember it was equated to UFO's earlier in the story. We're given nothing but our hopes and preconceived notions to guide us at the end.

Children of Men is the closest humanity ever comes to achieving ultimate peace and prosperity through everyone being fucking dead--then it gets taken away. This is filmed as a good thing, but that doesn't mean it is.

The Road, by miles.

In CoM, people are suspicious but largely civil, with the odd little resistance group or two causing trouble. In TR, everyone is suspicious of everyone to a point that it's easier to just shoot and rob/eat them first and save the trouble of talking to them, short of "WHY ARE YOU FOLLOWING US?"

CoM - Medium level dystopia where reproduction is (almost) non-existent but you can still live in relative comfort until death (food,water, utilities, a system of government, etc). The (almost) is the game changer though, making this whole scenario reversible. The sight of a fucking baby crying stopped fighting.

TR - Looks like some nuclear armageddon peaked sometime a few years ago, and now shifting through the ashes and raiding others keeps you alive. Comfort is finding a good shelter and food for the night, or finding valuables on a couple worth robbing, maybe eating or raping for later. The only thing a crying baby could do here is add another mouth to feed, a noise to get you caught whilst hiding, or a portable meal.

So yeah, The Road is very much fucked in comparison to Children of Men.

The Road, by miles.

In CoM, people are suspicious but largely civil, with the odd little resistance group or two causing trouble. In TR, everyone is suspicious of everyone to a point that it's easier to just shoot and rob/eat them first and save the trouble of talking to them, short of "WHY ARE YOU FOLLOWING US?"

CoM - Medium level dystopia where reproduction is (almost) non-existent but you can still live in relative comfort until death (food,water, utilities, a system of government, etc). The (almost) is the game changer though, making this whole scenario reversible. The sight of a fucking baby crying stopped fighting.

TR - Looks like some nuclear armageddon peaked sometime a few years ago, and now shifting through the ashes and raiding others keeps you alive. Comfort is finding a good shelter and food for the night, or finding valuables on a couple worth robbing, maybe eating or raping for later. The only thing a crying baby could do here is add another mouth to feed, a noise to get you caught whilst hiding, or a portable meal.

So yeah, The Road is very much fucked in comparison to Children of Men.

Only Britain is stable. The rest of the world is like the Road. It's stated explicitly. That's why the trouble is with the Fish. They want to let the refugees in. On top of all that, no babies.