The constitution was written by white landowning men for white landowning men. Everyone else can fuck off.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:02:51 PMThe constitution was written by white landowning men for white landowning men. Everyone else can fuck off.Not really. There's a reason tyranny of the majority was such a feared concept in the founding fathers' mind. They were looking out for all races, and nearly all of them opposed slavery.
Quote from: SecondClass on November 25, 2016, 02:45:34 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:02:51 PMThe constitution was written by white landowning men for white landowning men. Everyone else can fuck off.Not really. There's a reason tyranny of the majority was such a feared concept in the founding fathers' mind. They were looking out for all races, and nearly all of them opposed slavery.Right. That's why women couldn't vote and why counting niggers as three fifths of a person was a compromise.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:49:36 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 25, 2016, 02:45:34 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:02:51 PMThe constitution was written by white landowning men for white landowning men. Everyone else can fuck off.Not really. There's a reason tyranny of the majority was such a feared concept in the founding fathers' mind. They were looking out for all races, and nearly all of them opposed slavery.Right. That's why women couldn't vote and why counting niggers as three fifths of a person was a compromise.Right, because the founding fathers weren't the ones with all of the power. Washington, Madison, Jefferson, Hamilton, Burr, etc all opposed slavery and felt that minorities deserved all the rights of whites. But they didn't comprise all of congress, and the vast majority of congressmen were conservative southerns or southern sympathizers.Now, all of the founding fathers but Burr were male-focused, that's where you're right. But I'm more talking about race.
Quote from: SecondClass on November 25, 2016, 02:45:34 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:02:51 PMThe constitution was written by white landowning men for white landowning men. Everyone else can fuck off.Not really. There's a reason tyranny of the majority was such a feared concept in the founding fathers' mind. They were looking out for all races, and nearly all of them opposed slavery."Fuck niggers" - George Washington
Quote from: SecondClass on November 25, 2016, 02:54:02 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:49:36 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 25, 2016, 02:45:34 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:02:51 PMThe constitution was written by white landowning men for white landowning men. Everyone else can fuck off.Not really. There's a reason tyranny of the majority was such a feared concept in the founding fathers' mind. They were looking out for all races, and nearly all of them opposed slavery.Right. That's why women couldn't vote and why counting niggers as three fifths of a person was a compromise.Right, because the founding fathers weren't the ones with all of the power. Washington, Madison, Jefferson, Hamilton, Burr, etc all opposed slavery and felt that minorities deserved all the rights of whites. But they didn't comprise all of congress, and the vast majority of congressmen were conservative southerns or southern sympathizers.Now, all of the founding fathers but Burr were male-focused, that's where you're right. But I'm more talking about race.You can't be anti-slavery and a slave owner.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:55:15 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 25, 2016, 02:54:02 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:49:36 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 25, 2016, 02:45:34 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:02:51 PMThe constitution was written by white landowning men for white landowning men. Everyone else can fuck off.Not really. There's a reason tyranny of the majority was such a feared concept in the founding fathers' mind. They were looking out for all races, and nearly all of them opposed slavery.Right. That's why women couldn't vote and why counting niggers as three fifths of a person was a compromise.Right, because the founding fathers weren't the ones with all of the power. Washington, Madison, Jefferson, Hamilton, Burr, etc all opposed slavery and felt that minorities deserved all the rights of whites. But they didn't comprise all of congress, and the vast majority of congressmen were conservative southerns or southern sympathizers.Now, all of the founding fathers but Burr were male-focused, that's where you're right. But I'm more talking about race.You can't be anti-slavery and a slave owner.Why not?
Quote from: Verbatim on November 25, 2016, 03:02:17 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:55:15 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 25, 2016, 02:54:02 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:49:36 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 25, 2016, 02:45:34 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:02:51 PMThe constitution was written by white landowning men for white landowning men. Everyone else can fuck off.Not really. There's a reason tyranny of the majority was such a feared concept in the founding fathers' mind. They were looking out for all races, and nearly all of them opposed slavery.Right. That's why women couldn't vote and why counting niggers as three fifths of a person was a compromise.Right, because the founding fathers weren't the ones with all of the power. Washington, Madison, Jefferson, Hamilton, Burr, etc all opposed slavery and felt that minorities deserved all the rights of whites. But they didn't comprise all of congress, and the vast majority of congressmen were conservative southerns or southern sympathizers.Now, all of the founding fathers but Burr were male-focused, that's where you're right. But I'm more talking about race.You can't be anti-slavery and a slave owner.Why not?Because actions actually have consequences and meaning in the real world
Quote from: Infinitely Arctic on November 25, 2016, 03:04:21 PMQuote from: Verbatim on November 25, 2016, 03:02:17 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:55:15 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 25, 2016, 02:54:02 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:49:36 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 25, 2016, 02:45:34 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:02:51 PMThe constitution was written by white landowning men for white landowning men. Everyone else can fuck off.Not really. There's a reason tyranny of the majority was such a feared concept in the founding fathers' mind. They were looking out for all races, and nearly all of them opposed slavery.Right. That's why women couldn't vote and why counting niggers as three fifths of a person was a compromise.Right, because the founding fathers weren't the ones with all of the power. Washington, Madison, Jefferson, Hamilton, Burr, etc all opposed slavery and felt that minorities deserved all the rights of whites. But they didn't comprise all of congress, and the vast majority of congressmen were conservative southerns or southern sympathizers.Now, all of the founding fathers but Burr were male-focused, that's where you're right. But I'm more talking about race.You can't be anti-slavery and a slave owner.Why not?Because actions actually have consequences and meaning in the real worldThat doesn't mean you can't be anti-slavery and a slave owner.
It's no logically different than a smoker being anti-smoking, or a meat-eater being pro-vegan.
Quote from: Verbatim on November 25, 2016, 03:07:58 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on November 25, 2016, 03:04:21 PMQuote from: Verbatim on November 25, 2016, 03:02:17 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:55:15 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 25, 2016, 02:54:02 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:49:36 PMQuote from: SecondClass on November 25, 2016, 02:45:34 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 25, 2016, 02:02:51 PMThe constitution was written by white landowning men for white landowning men. Everyone else can fuck off.Not really. There's a reason tyranny of the majority was such a feared concept in the founding fathers' mind. They were looking out for all races, and nearly all of them opposed slavery.Right. That's why women couldn't vote and why counting niggers as three fifths of a person was a compromise.Right, because the founding fathers weren't the ones with all of the power. Washington, Madison, Jefferson, Hamilton, Burr, etc all opposed slavery and felt that minorities deserved all the rights of whites. But they didn't comprise all of congress, and the vast majority of congressmen were conservative southerns or southern sympathizers.Now, all of the founding fathers but Burr were male-focused, that's where you're right. But I'm more talking about race.You can't be anti-slavery and a slave owner.Why not?Because actions actually have consequences and meaning in the real worldThat doesn't mean you can't be anti-slavery and a slave owner.What reason would you have for telling everyone else to give up their slaves while you keep men chained up for yourself
Except this is shitty and hypocritical too
Quote from: Infinitely Arctic on November 25, 2016, 03:11:09 PMExcept this is shitty and hypocritical too No one said it's not hypocritical. Just that there's nothing logically fallacious about being a hypocrite.Thinking so is a fallacy in itself.
Maybe you're just a selfish cunt who realizes that you're doing is wrong, but you don't do anything because you're a selfish cunt.
So what is your argument right now
Quote from: Infinitely Arctic on November 25, 2016, 03:14:55 PMSo what is your argument right nowThat it is possible to be anti-slavery while still being a slave owner.
Quote from: Verbatim on November 25, 2016, 03:17:35 PMQuote from: Infinitely Arctic on November 25, 2016, 03:14:55 PMSo what is your argument right nowThat it is possible to be anti-slavery while still being a slave owner.Compelling
Actually it would be like being an insurgent or political dissident in hiding, you only own slaves to keep in line with social norms, while taking actions to abolish it in secrecy.
Quote from: Azendac on November 25, 2016, 03:22:39 PMActually it would be like being an insurgent or political dissident in hiding, you only own slaves to keep in line with social norms, while taking actions to abolish it in secrecy.You're telling me the Founding Fathers kept slaves because they had the insecurity levels of a 14 year old?
Quote from: Infinitely Arctic on November 25, 2016, 03:24:58 PMQuote from: Azendac on November 25, 2016, 03:22:39 PMActually it would be like being an insurgent or political dissident in hiding, you only own slaves to keep in line with social norms, while taking actions to abolish it in secrecy.You're telling me the Founding Fathers kept slaves because they had the insecurity levels of a 14 year old?Washington and Jefferson had slaves because they both owned farmland. It was an innocuous, expected thing to do at the time. As they progressed as thinkers and philosophers, they realized the institution was wrong, fought against it, and eventually freed their slaves.Not to mention the majority of founding fathers didn't even own slaves in the first place.This shouldn't be hard.