Quote from: Azumarill on May 14, 2016, 02:05:38 PM

Quote from: Dissonance on May 14, 2016, 02:02:58 PM

Quote from: Azumarill on May 14, 2016, 01:59:46 PM

1) this isnt a problem, youre retarded and overreacting.

Of course not
It's not a problem because it's convenient for you
 

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2) stop using hyberbole for once and formulate a logical argument

I have
If you cared to actually listen instead of being a bigot

Funny how you guys call us bigots when you guys are the ones who refuse to listen to anything we say
You push the issue and then claim it's not an issue because "guys it's just a bathroom lel"

i never called you a bigot. i called you a retard.

youre the one who isnt listening. i patiently tried to explain why you were wrong for several pages and instead of directly addressing any of my points you continued to prattle on about the very same nonsense i had been attempting to argue against. its like talking to a brick wall.

Uh
Your entire argument accumulated to "but nothing would happen"

Nothing would happen so we should just leave a giant legal loophole for people to exploit xD

exactly, there are going to be zero negative repercussions of trans-friendly bathroom policies. you are quite literally worried about nothing. there are no giant legal loopholes being created. nothing is being exploited.

Quote from: Azumarill on May 14, 2016, 02:14:04 PM

exactly, there are going to be zero negative repercussions of trans-friendly bathroom policies. you are quite literally worried about nothing. there are no giant legal loopholes being created. nothing is being exploited.

You don't leave your front door wide open and say "oh this is a nice neighborhood don't worry about it xD"

this is a horrible analogy.

Quote from: Azumarill on May 14, 2016, 02:14:04 PM

exactly, there are going to be zero negative repercussions of trans-friendly bathroom policies. you are quite literally worried about nothing. there are no giant legal loopholes being created. nothing is being exploited.

You don't leave your front door wide open and say "oh this is a nice neighborhood don't worry about it xD"

I usually don't leave the stall door open when I'm shitting in a public restroom either.

im done. youre not worth the effort.

"I want to compromise your privacy but I'm not going to explain myself to you"

It's hilarious how hard you try to have the last word

Well I don't think it's hilarious that people compromise the privacy of everyone else for your mental disease

Well if you were educated, you would know that you need a doctor's approval to have it changed
Did you think you could go to the DMV and just have it changed or something?

So I've been reading up on this and it seems a lot of states do have pretty fair ways to which you get your DL (similar level IDs) changed. I'm thinking that might actually be a viable solution. There are a few problems though in how all of this bullshit being on state or local levels can lead to inconsistent results. Some legislation are defined as written on birth certificate, some state "as biologically defined", which means DL or similar aren't legally valid. But I guess I'm coming to the realization that a lot of the people on the other side of the issue don't necessarily agree with NC implementation or any current iterations, but rather disagree with specific policies like Target.

Quote from: eggsalad on May 14, 2016, 06:55:23 PM

Quote from: Dissonance on May 14, 2016, 12:50:52 PM

Well if you were educated, you would know that you need a doctor's approval to have it changed
Did you think you could go to the DMV and just have it changed or something?

So I've been reading up on this and it seems a lot of states do have pretty fair ways to which you get your DL (similar level IDs) changed. I'm thinking that might actually be a viable solution. There are a few problems though in how all of this bullshit being on state or local levels can lead to inconsistent results. Some legislation are defined as written on birth certificate, some state "as biologically defined", which means DL or similar aren't legally valid. But I guess I'm coming to the realization that a lot of the people on the other side of the issue don't necessarily agree with NC implementation or any current iterations, but rather disagree with specific policies like Target.

Exactly
I would be more inclined to agree with people if they didn't allow you to change your gender on your birth certificate but the fact that they do makes it a complete non issue
Or should be a non issue

Well at least in NC, getting your BC changed requires SRS. Because SRS is not something most trans people get (and many don't even want), it should not be the criteria. Professional diagnosis and recommendation should be the criteria.

Quote from: Dissonance on May 14, 2016, 07:22:48 PM

Quote from: eggsalad on May 14, 2016, 06:55:23 PM

Quote from: Dissonance on May 14, 2016, 12:50:52 PM

Well if you were educated, you would know that you need a doctor's approval to have it changed
Did you think you could go to the DMV and just have it changed or something?

So I've been reading up on this and it seems a lot of states do have pretty fair ways to which you get your DL (similar level IDs) changed. I'm thinking that might actually be a viable solution. There are a few problems though in how all of this bullshit being on state or local levels can lead to inconsistent results. Some legislation are defined as written on birth certificate, some state "as biologically defined", which means DL or similar aren't legally valid. But I guess I'm coming to the realization that a lot of the people on the other side of the issue don't necessarily agree with NC implementation or any current iterations, but rather disagree with specific policies like Target.

Exactly
I would be more inclined to agree with people if they didn't allow you to change your gender on your birth certificate but the fact that they do makes it a complete non issue
Or should be a non issue

Well at least in NC, getting your BC changed requires SRS. Because SRS is not something most trans people get (and many don't even want), it should not be the criteria. Professional diagnosis and recommendation should be the criteria.

I think the reasoning behind that is genitals
The body is still physically the same with HRT 

same

Quote from: Groot on May 14, 2016, 10:16:05 PM

Who cares about north carolina anyway?

Maybe the people who are in its education system

Like me

Move?

Quote from: Dissonance on May 14, 2016, 10:43:58 PM

Quote from: Groot on May 14, 2016, 10:16:05 PM

Who cares about north carolina anyway?

Maybe the people who are in its education system

Like me

Move?

I have one year left of high school
I think I'll be fine

Quote from: Luciana on May 13, 2016, 10:39:04 PM

public bathrooms were no more or less secure before this law was even in place

get over yourself

Uh yes they were
Because if you went into the wrong bathroom, the men with guns come and take you away

Except now you can just say that you're a transgender and everything is all good

You're really showing your age here with this ignorance.

Get to bed, you'll miss tomorrow's episode of Doc McStuffins.